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[SloopJonB]

go start your car in a closed garage and tell us how clean they are.

It's a slow way to go nowadays.

Back in the 90's I read a story about Volvo pollution control technology - they tested one of their cars in Houston and the tailpipe emissions were actually cleaner than the air in the intake tract.

That's right - driving a new Volvo in Houston 30 years ago actually filtered and cleaned the air.

 

[Raz'r]

this world has always been almost entirely solar powered. some semi-smart people started burning fossil fuels, not so long ago.

fossil fuels are just stored solar.

 

[Voyageur]

It's a slow way to go nowadays.

Back in the 90's I read a story about Volvo pollution control technology - they tested one of their cars in Houston and the tailpipe emissions were actually cleaner than the air in the intake tract.

That's right - driving a new Volvo in Houston 30 years ago actually filtered and cleaned the air.

i'm pretty sure that is not true.

 

[SloopJonB]

Road & Track was a pretty reliable source about car stuff.

 

[Bus Driver]

It's a slow way to go nowadays.

Back in the 90's I read a story about Volvo pollution control technology - they tested one of their cars in Houston and the tailpipe emissions were actually cleaner than the air in the intake tract.

That's right - driving a new Volvo in Houston 30 years ago actually filtered and cleaned the air.

I'd be interested in the chemistry behind that claim.

 

[SloopJonB]

It was 30 fucking years ago - like I have the article right to hand.

Believe what you want - you will anyway.

https://airalliancehouston.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/How-Bad-is-Houston-Air.pdf

 

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[Bus Driver]

It was 30 fucking years ago - like I have the article right to hand.

Believe what you want - you will anyway.

https://airalliancehouston.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/How-Bad-is-Houston-Air.pdf

Easy there, Sloop.

My thoughts go to carbon oxide emissions. The air going in for combustion cannot have MORE COx than the exhaust gas, if you are burning carbonaceous material. It just can't. Not unless there is some sort of sequestration process to capture COx from the exhaust.

Now, if they are examining OTHER pollutants, perhaps. That's why I said I'd be interested in the chemistry. Not a dig at you or your truthiness.

 

[Steam Flyer]

Easy there, Sloop.

My thoughts go to carbon oxide emissions. The air going in for combustion cannot have MORE COx than the exhaust gas, if you are burning carbonaceous material. It just can't. Not unless there is some sort of sequestration process to capture COx from the exhaust.

Now, if they are examining OTHER pollutants, perhaps. That's why I said I'd be interested in the chemistry. Not a dig at you or your truthiness.

The engine was probably pulling oxidized metallic salts out of the air and dissolving them into the engine's lube oil.

 

[SloopJonB]

Easy there, Sloop.

My thoughts go to carbon oxide emissions. The air going in for combustion cannot have MORE COx than the exhaust gas, if you are burning carbonaceous material. It just can't. Not unless there is some sort of sequestration process to capture COx from the exhaust.

Now, if they are examining OTHER pollutants, perhaps. That's why I said I'd be interested in the chemistry. Not a dig at you or your truthiness.

It was probably NOx - IIRC that's the most toxic component. The fuel also contains a bunch of stuff that converts as well - exhaust is a lot more than the leftover intake air.

 

[Voyageur]

It's a slow way to go nowadays.

Back in the 90's I read a story about Volvo pollution control technology - they tested one of their cars in Houston and the tailpipe emissions were actually cleaner than the air in the intake tract.

That's right - driving a new Volvo in Houston 30 years ago actually filtered and cleaned the air.

i will call that bs

 

[Raz'r]

Easy there, Sloop.

My thoughts go to carbon oxide emissions. The air going in for combustion cannot have MORE COx than the exhaust gas, if you are burning carbonaceous material. It just can't. Not unless there is some sort of sequestration process to capture COx from the exhaust.

Now, if they are examining OTHER pollutants, perhaps. That's why I said I'd be interested in the chemistry. Not a dig at you or your truthiness.

My memory ain't what it was, but I believe it was about SMOG causing pollutants.

 

[SloopJonB]

i will call that bs

I think you already did.

 

[veni vidi vici]

.Global Warming et al

divide et vince

 

[Marty Gingras]

 

[badlatitude]

A master class in political humor courtesy of Gratiot County Republicans.

 

[Virgulino Ferreira]

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[badlatitude]

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Our "Like" choices really needs a "Loser" choice.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

 

[Ishmael]