AC Coverage - Jobson has to go! Emergency!

johnmoon

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My God!!! Listening to Jobson ramble on is nauseating. I can't belive he is the only guy they can find.

"the boats are playing chess with the wind"

"that jib looks too small"

"that swordfish on the bow looks MEAN!

"onece again, stronger wind trumps stronger current" (it's multihull sailing, you idiot)

Are you kidding me?

He is the biggest bore on TV. No wonder no has watched the AC over the years. He make a boring sport painful to watch.

This guy is way past his sell by date. I think he may have gotten the gig because his contacts at NBC. Maybe that was part of the deal.

Now we're suffering.

 

~Stingray~~

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That guy John Rawling (sp?) should replace GJ, who is just a dinosaur. JR has caught on very fast, he is Far More fun to listen to.

 
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Goose84

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The production crew needs to get their heads out of their asses on the fleet racing too. Did they even play a replay of TK's cross again LR? It looked like LR had to fly a hull to avoid a collision, but I couldn't tell because they never showed a replay. They also talk about about action happening in the gates or a big overtaking (like TK's over NZ at the end of fleet race 2), but they stay glued on the leader way ahead. Awesome action, but very frustrating production.

 

blackman

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I agree with all... and today was better to look on liveline uncut than the bad choices of images from prod....much more things to look at except the close views

 

~Stingray~~

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There is a sequence in I think the second FR where Mitch says that JS could have made a good move out to the left (looking downwind) and the TV followed the comment, showed the boat from the helicam, with those gridlines, laylines and all, then quickly faded onto the JS boat cam, then remotely-controlled the on-board cam into a tight shot of the crew, then back-faded to the wider LL as the commenters moved on, all in uner ten seconds, live. It was pretty damn good coverage.

I did expereience a few hiccups in the feed, but was not at home with the glassfiber-band so hard to tell where the latency happened.

 
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kitemare

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The production crew needs to get their heads out of their asses on the fleet racing too. Did they even play a replay of TK's cross again LR? It looked like LR had to fly a hull to avoid a collision, but I couldn't tell because they never showed a replay. They also talk about about action happening in the gates or a big overtaking (like TK's over NZ at the end of fleet race 2), but they stay glued on the leader way ahead. Awesome action, but very frustrating production.
Honestly... the entitlement by some of the people here is just out of control. You are getting free live streaming coverage with mics and cameras on every boat helicopter shots, graphical overlays AND NO COMMERCIALS. I was watching the racing live on the jetty yesterday with my phone out live the youtube coverage, it was truly amazing.

Could the commentary be a little better, yes. Do i wish they kept the "expert commentary" feed, yes. But seriously get your head out of your ass, maybe reduce your expectations a bit and enjoy the spectacle

 

Goose84

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Kitmare, i appreciate where you are coming from, and if the whole media crew was working for free, I would be less critical, but this is their job, and we should expect top quality results. And before you bring up the fact that Larry is basically paying for this whole deal out of his back pocket, I will point out that he more than anyone deserves to know that his production team is doing the best job possible.

It's frustrating mostly because the boat designers, sailors, and race organizers are living up to their task well in my opinion, so the production team should too.

 

tawgley

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The production crew needs to get their heads out of their asses on the fleet racing too. Did they even play a replay of TK's cross again LR? It looked like LR had to fly a hull to avoid a collision, but I couldn't tell because they never showed a replay. They also talk about about action happening in the gates or a big overtaking (like TK's over NZ at the end of fleet race 2), but they stay glued on the leader way ahead. Awesome action, but very frustrating production.
Honestly... the entitlement by some of the people here is just out of control. You are getting free live streaming coverage with mics and cameras on every boat helicopter shots, graphical overlays AND NO COMMERCIALS. I was watching the racing live on the jetty yesterday with my phone out live the youtube coverage, it was truly amazing.

Could the commentary be a little better, yes. Do i wish they kept the "expert commentary" feed, yes. But seriously get your head out of your ass, maybe reduce your expectations a bit and enjoy the spectacle
You may be missing the point(s) made by these and other posters .... it's probable that most of us would like to not only enjoy the video of the event, but perhaps more importantly have the video act as an 'attractant' for those not so familiar with our sport (i.e. non sailors) ... done well something like the ACWS could provide a BIG boost in interest for sailing.

The posters and myself are objecting to GJ's commentary because either he's forgotten all he knew about sailing, is too arrogant to share the fine points with an 'uneducated' viewing group, is hoping if he provides commentary like sportscasters in other sports he'll get a gig in another sport (we should be so lucky).

I've watched all the video so far and have sailed the Cityfront for a long time ... shouldn't a commentator tell you what the wind speeds are ... didn't hear it; shouldn't a commentator talk about the persistent shift at the top of the upwind leg in the first fleet race ... didn't hear it; shouldn't a commentator talk about the call JK made on OR-S to go out on the upwind leg in Fleet race 2 ... didn't hear it ... and on and on ... GJ is just not good for sailing commentary now (if he ever was) and that's what folks are talking about ....

rant over, back to sailing

 

RMK

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I'm w/kitemare you guys are whiners. The coverage is terrific. Could it be better? Sure but it is a huge gift from someone w/a vision who's putting his money where his mouth is.

It's GJ's job to ask the basic questions he already knows the answers to and MB's job to provide the details/tech/tatics as a way to explain things to the audience which hopefully includes a lot of non sailors.

There is no discussion of the wind because the crew are in a containor and don't have any info on wind shift or strength of wind on different parts of the course other then watching the same vid we see. In a sport that is wind driven more needs to be done here but you can't blame the announcers.

 

krispy kreme

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Well for a series whose premise was the facebook generation vs. the flintstone generation, not sure why they thought a pleistocene era commentator was going to light a wick. I just shake my head every time the mike gets turned onto the Energy team and he remarks: 'Wow they speak french!" And as a local, I about jumped out of my seat when he said there was 'cloud cover' coming in from the ocean. NO DUDE it's the frikken marine layer. And no it's not "misting', it's fog... and the yammering about wind over current. Just stop. If you don't know WTF you are talking about, a good policy is to just shut the F up.

I have a feeling that with this show going on in the ultimate venue, that there will be some serious debriefs over what to do right. The GJ commentary is not 1)educating 2)enlightening 3)engaging 4) relevant. Turn the mike over to Rawlings, Mitch, and yes, get the Irish guy.

And note to ACEA - who seems to have hung their venue revenue spurs on the Giants. Check out Kuiper Krukow if you want to know how it's done.

It's simple, pensive techical guy (Krukow) which would be Booth in this case, and play by play (Kuiper) which would be perhaps Rawlings or anyone else competent.

GJ's earned enough coin, no weeping for his starving children. Time to cut the cord.

 

cosmicsedso

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Jobson is terrible. Confusing for beginners and frustrating for afficionados.

He really doesn't get it, and his petty criticisms of sailors who are far, far better than he ever was, are really quite pathetic.

He misses the stuff that viewers need to be directed to and makes stupid comments about irrelevancies.

That is not going to attract anyone to sailing, nor will it engage with passionate sailors.

The vision is awesome and Mitch covers up well, but seriously, this is 2012, we can do better.

 

rogercounihan

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GJ is brutal and must go. What about the guys who did the VO in-shore races. I do not remember being as frustrated and forced to drink as much by that duo.

What about the dude from Best in Show? I think he's available?

 

~Stingray~~

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Probably the biggest problem GJ has is that he's just a dick, and so therefore sounds like one :)

But it could be worse, he does have okay moments.

 
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