AC36 CLASS RULE

Xlot

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STOP IT!!! I'm laughing so hard, Laughing tears  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Still catching up, and I hope there's more trolling along the way, as this is the funniest thread since the end of ACBermuda.
Thanks!!!
That's German sarcasm, hopefully ...

 

Team_GBR

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Neither, but nice try!

The Jury said the Agreement was illegal, it was all about cheating.
You really are an obnoxious piece of work, as bad, if not worse, than any other fanboy. Some tell me there was a time when you were an informed and made a significant contribution to this forum. I find it hard to believe.

What do you really not understand? ETNZ and LR did not undertake any activity that was illegal. They signed an agreement, which in itself cannot be cheating. The terms of that agreement were very public and before they acted on the agreement, the IJ interpreted that agreement. In the light of the interpretation, the agreement wasn't actioned. To me, all of that is the exact opposite of cheating. Cheats do not tell the world what they are doing. They do not take part in a process to understand if what they intend to do is legal. 

If what ETNZ and LR did was cheating, then every team that has ever asked for an interpretation that was told was against the rules must be guilty of cheating as well. So STFU and stop being a total dick.

 

Stingray~

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Neither, but nice try!

The Jury said the Agreement was illegal, it was all about cheating.
Did you get that, Clarkey? They 

C H E A T E D !

Those bastards. And for the appropriate punishment handed down GD got mercilessly rogered with a kingpost. That’s where that whole damn thing all originated.

Learn to Google .. sheesh! 

 
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Forourselves

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Did you get that, Clarkey? They 

C H E A T E D !

Those bastards. And for the appropriate punishment handed down GD got mercilessly rogered with a kingpost. That’s where that whole damn thing all originated.

Learn to Google .. sheesh! 
Nope. Lol still fucking things up huh Stinger!! Still haven't gotten over Bermuda, the PTSD has kicked in.

 

Stingray~

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I'd rather be called a pompous prick by you than be considered a complete dickhead by everybody, like you are.
Ooh, you hurt so good!

Your always-personal attacks are always like water off a duck’s back. 

If you could debate subjects without all the vindictiveness you might be worth reading. 

Bye bye

 

The_Alchemist

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Can we just start a "Bitching About Anything" thread and get you guys to just carry on in there?  Some of us check this site every couple of days hoping to catchup on any AC info, but every thread is full of the same 6-7 posters bitch slapping each other.

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Forourselves

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Good, so the Challenger is entitled to veto rights, and the CoR too, as you were saying. Now can you explain why LR could not keep the AC62 ?  Please enlight us with your prose.
The Challenger of Record is the challenger. Why did LR not keep their Veto rights? Because they thought it would be better given the history of Litigation, to waive their veto rights and put together a challenger committee to get the teams working together. Instead what happened was the other challengers saw an opportunity to vote in their best interests. So they did, the challengers formed their own committee, within the challenger committee and banded together to oust Luna Rossa and ETNZ by voting to throw out the already agreed Class Rule and establish a new class rule, which suited teams like France and japan (co incidentally two teams given a helping hand by Oracle to get their campaigns off the ground). The Class Rule COULD NOT BE CHANGED without unanimous vote, but the protocol superseded the Class Rule and only needed a majority vote to get over the line. Coincidentally, Japan, France and Artemis, teams who voted in favor of changing the class rule are no longer part of the Americas Cup along with their defender Oracle. 

 

Tornado-Cat

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The Challenger of Record is the challenger. Why did LR not keep their Veto rights? Because they thought
Because if the Challenger of the Deed can negociate an MC and, if involving multiple challengers, is called to CoR to make the difference, and can negotiate the conditions of the match, involving their role and responsabilities.

 

inebriated

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The Challenger of Record is the challenger. Why did LR not keep their Veto rights? Because they thought it would be better given the history of Litigation, to waive their veto rights and put together a challenger committee to get the teams working together. Instead what happened was the other challengers saw an opportunity to vote in their best interests. So they did, the challengers formed their own committee, within the challenger committee and banded together to oust Luna Rossa and ETNZ by voting to throw out the already agreed Class Rule and establish a new class rule, which suited teams like France and japan (co incidentally two teams given a helping hand by Oracle to get their campaigns off the ground). The Class Rule COULD NOT BE CHANGED without unanimous vote, but the protocol superseded the Class Rule and only needed a majority vote to get over the line. Coincidentally, Japan, France and Artemis, teams who voted in favor of changing the class rule are no longer part of the Americas Cup along with their defender Oracle. 
well BAR is back, who was in with sweden, france and japan.

plus, Artemis could well be back for another

 

Forourselves

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well BAR is back, who was in with sweden, france and japan.

plus, Artemis could well be back for another
BAR is the only confirmed team of the committee. Looking at the base plan that was released, it makes provision for 5 challengers and Luna Rossa. So we have BAR, NYYC, Adelasia of Torres, a possible Chinese Team, and one more place for either Artemis or Japan. And with Dean Barker going to NYYC, its highly unlikely Japan will enter.

 

inebriated

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BAR is the only confirmed team of the committee. Looking at the base plan that was released, it makes provision for 5 challengers and Luna Rossa. So we have BAR, NYYC, Adelasia of Torres, a possible Chinese Team, and one more place for either Artemis or Japan. And with Dean Barker going to NYYC, its highly unlikely Japan will enter.
yeah, for sure

how likley is Adelasia of torres and a chinese team in the scheme of things?

japan is long gone though, half the team with others , and no oracle to lean on

 
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