AC36: The Match (6-15th March. Reserve days to the 21st)

[strider470]

Luna Rossa means Red Moon, any italian friends explain the significance or meaning if any?

The name chosen for ITA 45 (and for all subsequent ones) was Luna Rossa. The official story tells how the name was born in the mind of Patrizio Bertelli from the rising of a large reddish full moon on a summer evening during a dinner spent talking about boats in the Tirli hills near Punta Ala. Miuccia Prada tells how the name Luna Rossa was perfect to contrast with Black Magic, the defender. Only later did we remember the Neapolitan song of the same name composed in 1950 by Vian and De Crescenzo which, reworked in a modern key by Renzo Arbore, followed the boat in its southern adventures.

 

[Guest]

He had nothing untill his folks passed.... a Kiwi bloke with a dream (and was andamned good accountant) who made it happened during a time when Sir Peter Blake could do no wrong).... cut him some slack mate, he's worked bloody hard to get where he is

We might make fun of these guys but every single one of them are excellent humans as far as I can tell. Ive defended Deano many times on this board against those who bag him. I consider him to be extremely unfortunate not to have won in San Fran, and he came back with dignity. 

 

[cje]

Thanks, great addition to the conversation....fuckwit.

fuckwit, Where exactly does she sit in the carriage.

 

[AKL wino]

Now I know most ETNZ supporters think JS is a cock sucker ofthe highest order, ...his dickhead behaviour in SF pretty much cemented him as such. But (and it’s a big BUT) it’s pretty clear now that it’s the team that has shaped him into the person he is today. In my opinion Oracle were a bunch of pricks, from the top all the way through to the boat cleaners...they thought they were bigger than the Cup and their behaviour was to act like wankers, basically from 2010 to 2017. To me LR have obviously instructed JS to act with dignity, grace and poise, to give praise where praise is due. To me it makes him rather likeable. He looks relaxed, he looks like he’s enjoying himself, he seems to be comfortable with his team and his own ability. I like this side of JS, long may it continue!

What say you Anarchists?

Pretty happy when he came to the ETNZ party in BDA. Those guys rocked up, behaved with dignity, stayed for an hour and left to solid applause. Bloody good. 

 

[Indio]

When does the cup get renamed NZs cup??

When we've held it for 165 years

 

[36thLatitude]

When we've held it for 165 years

But they only had a challenge every 50 or so!

 

[**ONTOIT**]

Pretty happy when he came to the ETNZ party in BDA. Those guys rocked up, behaved with dignity, stayed for an hour and left to solid applause. Bloody good. 

I think it’s already been said, but I think Bermuda was a pretty humbling experience for JS....he may have also known then and there that OR wasn’t going to return.

 

[kenergy]

Pretty happy when he came to the ETNZ party in BDA. Those guys rocked up, behaved with dignity, stayed for an hour and left to solid applause. Bloody good. 

Hes a classic competitor, we only "hate" him because of his awesome call at 7-1 down, along the same lines as "four more years boys, four more years" 

I'd happily share a beer with the dude, hes fine by me.

 

[Sailbydate]

Great to see Pete and Glenn having a laugh at the Presser highlights reel - where they rocketed around that bottom mark.

Te Rehutai was at quite a heel angle and ripping it.

Glenn called it "a pretty good wheelie".

 

[45Roller]

He was interviewed at Xmas and talked how close an Australian team was, I think he quoted that they could have just made the start line but nothing further. 

Yeah Slingers said something similar when on The Cup podcast, great listen, him and Nathan... 

 

[strider470]

In Italy we are very romantic about boat names. It's very likely that an owner (but also professional sailing teams) gives the same name to all of his boat, all life long. Think of Azzurra, Il Moro di Venezia and Mascalzone Latino, besides Luna Rossa. How is it in other countries?

NB Only exception is with used boats. Nobody dares changing the name of a boat.

 

[45Roller]

LSD wrap up 

 

[kenergy]

In Italy we are very romantic about boat names. It's very likely that an owner (but also professional sailing teams) gives the same name to all of his boat, all life long. Think of Azzurra, Il Moro di Venezia and Mascalzone Latino, besides Luna Rossa. How is it in other countries?

NB Only exception is with used boats. Nobody dares changing the name of a boat.

You can change the name of the boat, you just need a virgin to piss in the bilge.

Sometimes they're hard to find. 

 

[strider470]

Sometimes they're hard to find. 

The bilges?

 

[minimumfuss]

In Italy we are very romantic about boat names. It's very likely that an owner (but also professional sailing teams) gives the same name to all of his boat, all life long. Think of Azzurra, Il Moro di Venezia and Mascalzone Latino, besides Luna Rossa. How is it in other countries?

NB Only exception is with used boats. Nobody dares changing the name of a boat.

Here in NZ I think we tend to name each new boat with its own name, so there aren't a whole bunch with the same name. Although my boat is Witch Doctor 2 because I like it. The laser is Bottoms Up, for obvious reasons. But no, you shouldn't change names if a used boat. Unless it's called Seaman, or named after someone else's wife, a ex wife, or it's called Jacinda. 

 

[JALhazmat]

He might!

But he took out my favoured Sailor in the Prada Cup Final! I am getting tired seeing Ben having to play 2nd fidle to Jimmy during Bens entire Sailing Career.

Like when Jimmy beat him in 5 Olympic games? 
 

 

[Guest]

Here in NZ I think we tend to name each new boat with its own name, so there aren't a whole bunch with the same name. Although my boat is Witch Doctor 2 because I like it. The laser is Bottoms Up, for obvious reasons. But no, you shouldn't change names if a used boat. Unless it's called Seaman, or named after someone else's wife, a ex wife, or it's called Jacinda. 

What, you dont approve of Seaman Stains?

 

[Joakim]

When LR was pushing them out past the lay line at the bottom mark. What stopped NZ from gybing onto starboard?

They didn't have room to jibe while keeping clear on port. That's what would have happened the day before, if Pete hadn't made the jibe where they dropped off the foils. Today Pete was more patient and just stayed in bad air and waited for a change, which he got.

Could LR made the last tack on the lead a bit higher, so that TR can't tack? So not giving bad air, but just preventing them from getting leverage. Then they would have leebowed them at  the boundary. Or was their lead too marginal for that? When they tacked in front, they gave TR starboard edge and two rather long tacks to get close enough. The only way for LR to survive was to find a better shift or wind from left.

 

[kenergy]

Here in NZ I think we tend to name each new boat with its own name, so there aren't a whole bunch with the same name. Although my boat is Witch Doctor 2 because I like it. The laser is Bottoms Up, for obvious reasons. But no, you shouldn't change names if a used boat. Unless it's called Seaman, or named after someone else's wife, a ex wife, or it's called Jacinda. 

I just add numbers, I'm lacking the imagination to come up with new names each time. 

 

[cje]

In Italy we are very romantic about boat names. It's very likely that an owner (but also professional sailing teams) gives the same name to all of his boat, all life long. Think of Azzurra, Il Moro di Venezia and Mascalzone Latino, besides Luna Rossa. How is it in other countries?

NB Only exception is with used boats. Nobody dares changing the name of a boat.

Good question. Bad luck if you believe that stuff. 

All vessels have history, then someone changes the colour, shape or name.

Something special happens years from now when someone walks down the dock and tells you a story about her.

I prefer to keep some features for that reason.