AC36: The Match (6-15th March. Reserve days to the 21st)

[45Roller]

From memory it was in the press conference after OR won the last RR race against ETNZ which meant OR had that extra point.

Ok thanks mate, have the date so, don't see the press conference yet, will look more later 

https://www.marinij.com/2017/06/03/oracle-beats-kiwis-in-bermuda-for-americas-cup-bonus-point/

 

[Kate short for Bob]

20 secs later.

 

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[Barnyb]

 

[Paddywackery]

Thanks. 

 

[Kate short for Bob]

50 seconds from tack.

 

[Kate short for Bob]

1 min from the point LR decided to go left.  Difference in wind direction 170  between the two ends of the gate - would have been greater where the boats were.

 

[Joakim]

They may have had "no choice" but they made that choice not because they didn't have the choice but because that is where they wanted to be.

No. If LR had wanted the right side at the top of the beat they could have taken it. All they needed to do was not to tack before the layline. Then TR would have to take the left side or follow LR with an extra tack and bad air at the layline.

It was totally in LR's control which side LR took and which side they like to force TR to take. They just thought left side was better.

It doesn't really matter what TR thought, since they were not in a position to make their own choice.

 

[marlowe]

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Hmm... that's falling off foils weather.

 

[Joakim]

Just before the tack that LR didn't cover.

They really couldn't once they decided to protect the left side. Not that much lead, TR on starboard and they were too far away. Covering at that point would have meant two tacks in row and big loss. Most likely they couldn't have leebowed TR on layline.

So another tack in order to cover would have been a very likely pass given for TR. They thought left was favored and stick to that.

Sure they know the local geography well enough. TR went the left side on the first beat and got really close to LR and they rounded the same time.

 

[Kate short for Bob]

It was totally in LR's control which side LR took and which side they like to force TR to take. They just thought left side was better.

We disagree on most of this except one thing - LR was in control being in front.  ETNZ set them up from a long way back and LR took the wrong option even though they in your words "had total control". 

In saying that LR know they have the slower boat by a margin and have to roll the dice more than ETNZ.  If LR had covered ETNZ were close enough to get their nose in front.

I hope in the last presser we get some honesty out of both Bruni and Spithall regarding ETNZ's speed.

 

[jawjaw]

1 min from the point LR decided to go left.  Difference in wind direction 170  between the two ends of the gate - would have been greater where the boats were.

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Says 6 degrees in the data at the bottom, no?

 

[Paddywackery]

Hmm... that's falling off foils weather.

Not again, not the way you want to see racing. 

 

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Not that this is a major advantage anymore, but.......

Luna Rossa will have port entry for both races today - if two are needed - as yesterday's second race becomes today's first race

 

[Stingray~]

What do you think of the newly displayed 'air wakes'. I like 'em, but two things....

Are they more or less in the right place?

I like them too. They don’t look as sophisticated as the (now) SGP graphics but it makes the point anyway, those smoky shadows. 

 

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Regarding course selection:

We've introduced a new course called the AB course, and dragged it down to a point where it just fits into the Rangitoto Channel," Murray says

 

[Paddywackery]

Not that this is a major advantage anymore, but.......

Luna Rossa will have port entry for both races today - if two are needed - as yesterday's second race becomes today's first race

Interesting.

 

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Reasoning:

"We're trying to get in the compression area between Rangitoto and the shore to try eek out a bit more wind...trying to make the most out of what we've got."

 

[Kate short for Bob]

Says 6 degrees in the data at the bottom, no?

I don't believe that onboard wind data is a true reflection of the actual wind direction and speed.  It has to be a calculated figure due to the apparent wind factor.  I realise that there is probably some algorithm that is being used but in my opinion it doesn't accurately reflect the actual conditions.  

If you look at the frame where they are practically together there is a 6 degree difference in wind direction even when they are not being affected by each others mainsail.