AC36: The Match (6-15th March. Reserve days to the 21st)
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36thLatitude
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That would be funny......but good as well............I bet Russ was watching......Do a one design AC75 based on TR just for the GP......but keep the development going in the AC - perfect world.......
rh3000
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Welp I (and all ETNZ fans) got my lucky birthday present today 
LRRP demonstrated grit and class, and I for one am a proud member of the Francesco Bruni Fan Club.
The viaduct was absolutely mental this afternoon, and this evening. I'm glad that we retained the cup so that we can have another crack at hosting international visitors properly in Aotearoa.
Interesting times ahead :-D
LRRP demonstrated grit and class, and I for one am a proud member of the Francesco Bruni Fan Club.
The viaduct was absolutely mental this afternoon, and this evening. I'm glad that we retained the cup so that we can have another crack at hosting international visitors properly in Aotearoa.
Interesting times ahead :-D
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LR on port entry and wanted to be on the windward side of the start line (because the right hand side of the course is favoured), TR simply took the option away from LR, crossing the line slightly earlier does not mean anything if you are forced out of the position that you wanted.
No. Jimmy said RC end is favored. Thus they wanted to start near the right end of the line. They didn't say nor do anyting that implied they had any plans on making the extra tack TR did. You loose 50 m or so in a tack.
You don't want to start on a windward side of the other boat unless there is a clear gap and it's still risky since you need to let the other boat tack at the boundary. Previous day LR was just barely able to leebow TR at the boundary tack. This is especially true for LR, since TR needs to sail lower and then has better VMG.
LR started in a good position regarding were TR was. TR would not have survived there to the boundary. They had to tack and wanted to tack. Maybe that fooled LR? I don't see much LR could have done.
TR gained about 50 m in total. I think that was just boat speed. All the way to the boundary + to the middle has been about 50 m to TR.
Congrats to ETNZ and especially to all the engineers and craftsmen who built these amazing machines! What an incredible feat. When I first saw the concept drawings, I was in the no fucking way camp. Just blown away with the courage and skill shown in the design, construction and operation of these beasts.
shebeen
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-i-let-them-down-dejected-luna-rossa-co-helmsman-jimmy-spithill-vows-to-be-back/3R5QSTQDKHMBR7BFHYQIUXLE4M/Jimmy Spithill concedes it was like taking a knife to a gunfight against Team New Zealand
David Long20:23, Mar 17 2021
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Luna Rossa's Jimmy Spithill contemplates what might have been after losing the America's Cup to Team New Zealand.
Jimmy Spithill said it was like taking a knife to a gunfight in the America’s Cup Match against Team New Zealand - but he’s not giving up on winning the Auld Mug again.
The co-helmsman who has so often been the nemesis of Team New Zealand, was gracious in defeat after Luna Rossa lost race 10 on Wednesday, going down 7-3 in the best of 13 series.
The Italians had hoped they could be equal with the speed of Te Rehutai in the Match, but in Wednesday’s race it was clear they weren’t as fast, with Team New Zealand winning by 46 seconds.
“It would have been nice to have won a few more races against the Kiwis, but to be quite honest at times it felt like we were taking a knife to a gunfight,” Spithill said when interviewed afterwards.
is he counting the DoG series as a Cup final? even my granny could have won with that bazooka in a knifefight
"I love the fight, I love competing. That's my fourth Cup final in a row and I'm two wins, two losses. I can't leave it there; I've got to tip it the right way," Spithill said.
marlowe
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Actually Bruno mustered his energy and rose to the occasion.
Probably his swansong. I imagine it was Prada who dug him out for this cup, I don't think he'll be back for the next.
marlowe
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luisbordino
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Congratulations to all Kiwi supporters here, and a great recognition for the (I believe) closest effort from an Italian Team. You won races despite not having the fastest boat, made less mistakes also. Also I think @strider470 was very humorous taking all bullets graciously, you are an alter ego of Max Sirena!
Also congratulations to @Basiliscus, @MaxHugen, @erdb, @weta27, @Mozzy Sails and many others who took time to help us understand these machines of sailing!
Luis
Also congratulations to @Basiliscus, @MaxHugen, @erdb, @weta27, @Mozzy Sails and many others who took time to help us understand these machines of sailing!
Luis
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jaysper
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Yes, yes it is. You're welcome ^_^Something I couldn't quite figure out till this day, is Te Rehutai considered a color "red" boat? or a color "black boat"???
jaysper
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chocoa
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Everybody chipped in with help/support for entz even the government.
Gotta like that---
LUNA ROSA go home to a major virus lockdown and a dispute over vaccines.
Sigh.
Hey - absolutely. Way to kick some ass. Too bad you had the obvious advantage of having written the rule.
(After all... that's how a Kiwi would respond, based on all the shit talking done by Kiwis on this forum).
But, in all seriousness. Nice boat, and great job sailing. Way to go!
You also have to remember most 'Americans' have been asleep and are at work now.
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As you said, the RC end is favoured, so did LR managed to get the favoured side of the starting line? the port entry boat is supposed to have the advantage to choose where they wanted to be positioned off the starting line.
TR wanted the right hand side from the get go and executed the tack off the starting line perfectly as planned, not hard to see who actually won that start.
Despite not winning 2007, I think we can be extremely proud of that result. We were a mosquitoe's dick away from winning a race that would have had the scoreline at 4-3. Alinghi proved to be faster but to get that result from the ashes of 2003 was quite remarkable. 2003 hurt more because of the cowardice in which the core of a great team that SPB created pissed off and gutted TNZ leaving not a lot of time to scrape a defence together. 2013 sucked because we made too many fundamental errors along the way. I don't think 2017 was possible without 2013.
Would you say that, if TR had been behind at the first cross?
Two separate things winning the start and getting an advantage from a split after the start. The latter being mostly boat speed.
LR started where they wanted in the situation. In the leebow of TR and not letting TR to start with a gap to leeward.
Forourselves
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They weren't behind on the first cross! Watch the 2011/ 2012 Volvo Ocean Race Auckland Inshore race start, Camper did the same thing, started behind the leaders but took the right hand side, tacked soon after the start and went straight to the wall in front of the Hilton. Its not about just getting the bow over the line before your opponent. Its about being able to consolidate the start by getting the first shift and pressure, and winning the first cross.
