AC36: The Match (6-15th March. Reserve days to the 21st)

[fish7yu]

Well I disagree with almost all of that. Yes it might have been according to the plan TR made. They didn't need to win the start, they were happy to tack and use their speed. Maybe they thought right side was favored.

TR was about 10 m behind at the start with minimal gap to windward. It would have been easy for LR to smoke them off. TR didn't have the option to continue on starboard, if they wanted to be in front at the first cross.

I think LR was very happy with their start. They probably started to worry when TR tacked right away when they still had good speed. Note how LR was faster almost all the way to the boundary. That's how much you loose in a tack vs. good acceleration before start. But TR is a faster boat and may have gotten a slight edge on the right side.

I'm sure LR would have been 50-100 m behind had they tacked and TR continued on starboard. I'm also sure LR had no plans of starting on the windward side of TR unless TR would have been in their bad air, which would have required winning the start with a huge margin.

Listen to the onboard audio, JS wanted "wide right" when they entered and FB agreed, well, LR did not get what they wanted, but TR got what they wanted, end of story.

 

[45Roller]

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[jaysper]

Think like a 10 year old.  Look at a foiler, then an opti. 

Which would you want to be on?

Mate, I practically AM a 10 year old.  :lol:

 

[Couch Bike Dude]

Well fuck me, you must be the best wanker in the whole of italy at this mother fucking swearing shit!

Change wanker to cocksucker and you have the Americanized version!

 

[Couch Bike Dude]

Nice stat. Hmmm, who's the biggest loser?

To me it's a toss up between New Zealand KZ-1 and Alinghi 5. But Shamrock had some pretty big losers too!

 

[jaysper]

10 hours ago, 45Roller said:

NO on the AM show

Oh god, Garner is a fuckwit.

 

[jaysper]

Have you had a few head knocks lately?

He does have a point, which is logistically they are very tough boats.

However make the comparison with a foiling moth and an opti and I guess most kids would want the moth.

 

[NZL4EVER]

To me it's a toss up between New Zealand KZ-1 and Alinghi 5. But Shamrock had some pretty big losers too!

NZL-82

 

[jaysper]

Australia does not have to prove anything to anybody in sailing.

I think that is at the heart of the absence as a team.

Been there done that, got the T-shirt.

I think it's probably now more a case of funding.

It is incredibly hard to find a team even if it is established and successful. Funding a team from scratch without a tame mega billionaire is pretty close to impossible.

When ETNZ does finally fold, NZ will draw a line under this whole AC "thing", sit back on the veranda and bask in glories past and come to these forums to poke shit at whoever currently holds it.

 

[Couch Bike Dude]

NZL-82

Too small only two thirds the size of the biggest.

 

[jaysper]

Change wanker to cocksucker and you have the Americanized version!

You mean google translate doesn't do that for you?

Strange, it seems to work just fine when I look at the posts written in italian.  :huh:

 

[Forourselves]

Sounds like a fairly formidable line up of teams for the next cycle. INEOS, probably LR, Alinghi, Stars + Stripes, it will truly be the best of the best.

 

[dg_sailingfan]

Sounds like a fairly formidable line up of teams for the next cycle. INEOS, probably LR, Alinghi, Stars + Stripes, it will truly be the best of the best.

Most important: We now have an established Boat Class (8 AC75's), 4 of them could be sold to Start-Up Teams so they can learn how to sail them.

 

[cbulger]

And also they did less races than today. Coutts will be always the top in AC, in my opinion

"Always" is a long time - PB, BT and GA all have lots of miles ahead.....

 

[jaysper]

Sounds like a fairly formidable line up of teams for the next cycle. INEOS, probably LR, Alinghi, Stars + Stripes, it will truly be the best of the best.

Ummm what? I think this time last cycle we had more challengers lining up and S&S didn't exactly turn out to be the best of the best did they?

I'd like to see Artemis return with NO at the helm and maybe SoftBank with Draper.

 

[Guest]

There are one or two muppets out there who've got theirs for far less :angry:

He’s and old white guy with coin, in other words fully qualified

 

[weta27]

12 hours ago, 45Roller said:

Very interesting from GMR

@weta27 were you out that day mate? 

I was just about to post that, thanks 45Roller. No I wasn't out that day, but the video gives a great  idea of what it's like. Slightly wetter and rockier on the TV Cats mind you!

I have been lucky enough to meet some of the photographers, all seem like nice people and boy do they work hard. So many images to sort, process, caption and upload.

The video shows Gilles (Kiwi cap and Les Voiles de St Tropez shirt) and Carlo Borlenghi (right at the end) who are of course internationally known, Stefano Gattini (on laptop right at the end), who works for Carlo, Chris Cameron (ex-ETNZ and now freelance) and Fiona Goodall from Getty Images. I didn't see RG in the video but he will have been there somewhere.

That's Andy Tuke driving the boat (Photo 1 - there are two Photo boats). And you also see the lovely Andjelka from the Prada Media Centre.

These guys are the real pro's.

 

[Guest]

Most important: We now have an established Boat Class (8 AC75's), 4 of them could be sold to Start-Up Teams so they can learn how to sail them.

Yeah maybe, but where are they going to get the expertise to run them? Seriously, the current teams struggled to fill the gaps, my mates on TNZ have given a few insights of what it takes to run these ships and its massive and the talent pool is currently completely taken.

 

[jaysper]

I was just about to post that, thanks 45Roller. No I wasn't out that day, but the video gives a great  idea of what it's like. Slightly wetter and rockier on the TV Cats mind you!

I have been lucky enough to meet some of the photoographers, all seem like nice people and boy do they work hard. So many images to sort, process, caption and upload.

The video shows Gilles (Kiwi cap and Les Voiles de St Tropez shirt) and Carlo Borlenghi (right at the end) who are of course internationally known, Stefano Gattini (on laptop right at the end), who works for Carlo, Chris Cameron (ex-ETNZ and now freelance) and Fiona Goodall from Getty Images. I didn't see RG in the video but he will have been there somewhere.

That's Andy Tuke driving the boat (Photo 1 - there are two Photo boats). And you also see the lovely Andjelka from the Prada Media Centre.

These guys are the real pro's.

I have lens envy.

 

[45Roller]

I was just about to post that, thanks 45Roller. No I wasn't out that day, but the video gives a great  idea of what it's like. Slightly wetter and rockier on the TV Cats mind you!

I have been lucky enough to meet some of the photographers, all seem like nice people and boy do they work hard. So many images to sort, process, caption and upload.

The video shows Gilles (Kiwi cap and Les Voiles de St Tropez shirt) and Carlo Borlenghi (right at the end) who are of course internationally known, Stefano Gattini (on laptop right at the end), who works for Carlo, Chris Cameron (ex-ETNZ and now freelance) and Fiona Goodall from Getty Images. I didn't see RG in the video but he will have been there somewhere.

That's Andy Tuke driving the boat (Photo 1 - there are two Photo boats). And you also see the lovely Andjelka from the Prada Media Centre.

These guys are the real pro's.

Nice one mate, thanks for the insight, as @jaysper says, lens envy for sure, some serious equipment there