AC36 - The Venue

jaysper

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Rskiff said:
yeah how about putting all the old boats ETNZ still have on display there. Kind of historic.
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Now THAT would be nice! I was always disappointed how they ditched NZL38 whilst showing almost religious reverence to NZL32, despite the fact that NZL38 did most of the work.

But for goodness sake, stop worshipping Blake. He did far less than Dalton has.

 
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jaysper said:
But for goodness sake, stop worshipping Blake. He did far less than Dalton has.
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Jaysper, you are an odd fish. It's as if you want to cap the accolades one person might receive. Tall poppy syndrome personified, it seems.

  • You don't like GD, yet he (for his faults) returned the Cup to NZ in the face of considerable adversity.
  • You like Blake, but heaven forbid he be *too* celebrated. Dude mortgaged his own house to get us signed up for 1995, for crying out loud, what more do you want? His first born?
There is nothing wrong with celebrating someone's success. Lauding GD (or anyone) for their achievements doesn't mean you have to excuse their faults.

 
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damagesmith said:
This area is way to small, and would never work. The person who drew this clearly has no idea what they are talking about
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Agreed. That course can't be more than 1.5km between gates for starters, never mind the lack of support for anything other than a true westerly or easterly breeze. A case of trying to make it fit, rather than coming up with something fit for purpose.

 
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jaysper

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ianz said:
Jaysper, you are an odd fish. It's as if you want to cap the accolades one person might receive. Tall poppy syndrome personified, it seems.

  • You don't like GD, yet he (for his faults) returned the Cup to NZ in the face of considerable adversity.
  • You like Blake, but heaven forbid he be *too* celebrated. Dude mortgaged his own house to get us signed up for 1995, for crying out loud, what more do you want? His first born?
There is nothing wrong with celebrating someone's success. Lauding GD (or anyone) for their achievements doesn't mean you have to excuse their faults.
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Well, we are probably all odd fish in our ways.

But, my point is despite the issues I have with Dalton, he has put a huge amount of effort and achieved far more than Blake ever did.

The post I originally responded to had a design depicting a red sock (you can go look, I will wait). My point is that WHY would they build a tribute to Blake who had nothing to do with this current success and yet do nothing for Dalton?

Personally, I think a better option is to do something like Rskif suggested by displaying all the ETNZ boats.

But if they are to erect a monument to any individual, it should be Dalton not Blake. I'd be surprised if too many people would disagree with that despite the fact that Dalton is a pretty divisive character.

 
Rskiff

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How many of them aren't already at the Maritime Museum or the Explore Group Auckland docks at the Viaduct Basin?
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fucked if I know. Thinking of the 72, and also if the 50 isnt being used then it, maybe get back NZL92, 20,82,60,

 
EssjaywhyNZ

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Stop  filling  the  beautiful   sparking-waters  of the Waitemata  in !

hell our Logan was  trapped  against the tide off the  new POA extn for about  half an hour in  lite-winds April  racing ,  current really exacerbated  there ,  needed  a race kayak to  get out o that  river

 
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If can make boats that can handle 1m waves (which seems like a useful design improvement) then do it off the North shore in the Hauraki like previous AC's.  If need smaller waves then down in the more protected waters between Waiheke and Beachlands/Howick.

Would be nice if we could have tall hangers/sheds and a class of boat that didn't need to have their rigs taken down every night  25m tall doors wouldn't be that hard to do (and could reduce land footprint of base facilities if they built up multi level rather than low and flat).

Another option might be a few barges raised up on piles as temporary 'land' space for the cup.  a 100x30m barge only costs a few million and takes a few months to get built, and could potentially be sold on to next venue to speed up cup cycle.  A purpose built hanger/base ship that could ferry boats and facilities around the world for ACWS type events would be a great way to manage the show.

 
hoom

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Bases should line the western side of the Silo Park, Wynyard Quarter becomes the hub/home of the AC with racing to be out on the sea where the old courses were. The Stadium racing inshore format sucks ass and hard to do in Auckland anyway. Send it out, big up huge screens with heaps of entertainment and food and things like a proper village, not some tent city and make a proper go of it.
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That.

Inner harbour just ain't big enough for this kind of stuff.

 
Groucho Marx

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The red socks BS is a New Zealand disgrace and embarrassment. Whoever drew this silly defecation of a sculpture in the plan needs to be whipped with barbed wire.

 
Ex-yachtie

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hoom said:
That.

Inner harbour just ain't big enough for this kind of stuff.
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So there will need to be mechanisms in place for allowing broken boats to sail/tow in and get fixed. Potentially less races per day? Or more reliable, heavier boats? Are we cool with that?

 
jaysper

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Groucho Marx said:
The red socks BS is a New Zealand disgrace and embarrassment. Whoever drew this silly defecation of a sculpture in the plan needs to be whipped with barbed wire.
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Oh. Bollocks. I don't agree with it but because it is a testament to someone who had nothing to do with this victory. 

I think you've taken too many grumpy pills.

 
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