Terry Hollis
Super Anarchist
He probably meant it was the main first used by AC40 boat one before it became LEQ12.
AC40
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Mozzy Sails
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you can swap one design parts between call legal AC40 hulls without it counting. Even if one of those AC40s has none class legal LEQ12 parts on it, such as the banana foil). And you can swap LEQ12 (non AC40 class legal) parts between AC40 hulls and they will only count against your parts quota once.
This makes one of the big advantages of the two AC40 is that you have far more spares / redundancy as parts can be shared. If they were to smash the nose off an AC40 tomorrow, they could transfer the LEQ12 parts to the other and carry on.
But critically you can't put class legal AC40 parts on a home built LEQ12 hull. They would count to your quota.
From about 9 minutes here with the relevant rules highlighted
This makes one of the big advantages of the two AC40 is that you have far more spares / redundancy as parts can be shared. If they were to smash the nose off an AC40 tomorrow, they could transfer the LEQ12 parts to the other and carry on.
But critically you can't put class legal AC40 parts on a home built LEQ12 hull. They would count to your quota.
From about 9 minutes here with the relevant rules highlighted
enigmatically2
Super Anarchist
I do feel vindicated that the view is now that you can so swap. That was what I always argued.
However there are limits. You can only have one LEQ12 mast tube (so only 1 boat at a time), only 2 foil arm stocks and only one rudder. And only one hull may be modified at all. So in practise at any one time, one of your AC 40 boats is likely to be in fairly vanilla form.
However there are limits. You can only have one LEQ12 mast tube (so only 1 boat at a time), only 2 foil arm stocks and only one rudder. And only one hull may be modified at all. So in practise at any one time, one of your AC 40 boats is likely to be in fairly vanilla form.
The_Alchemist
Super Anarchist
A class example of over hype. The recon crew mention in the interview and the notes that the boat was on auto-pilot the whole time. Supposedly, any man, women or child can sail an AC40 on auto-pilot.
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ETNZ gave a festive reminder as to why they are such a potent force in the Cup
It has been coming for a while - and both American Magic and Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli have got very, very close - but today the America’s Cup holders, Emirate
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Does taking an AC40 off auto-pilot make it suddenly an L?A class example of over hype. The recon crew mention in the interview and the notes that the boat was on auto-pilot the whole time. Supposedly, any man, women or child can sail an AC40 on auto-pilot.
ETNZ gave a festive reminder as to why they are such a potent force in the Cup
It has been coming for a while - and both American Magic and Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli have got very, very close - but today the America’s Cup holders, Emirate
smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
No. It’s a Loser even on AP.
The boat doesn't tack/gybe itself. You still have to have your timings right, and trimming as well. I doubt it's that easy. Looking forward to seeing the other teams sail their AC40s one design so some comparisons can be made.
The_Alchemist
Super Anarchist
Yes, they have to steer the boat, but with ride height controlled is a major factor in touch downs. Just the fact that they had new crew members at the helm for a good portion of the session shows that it is a much easier task with auto-pilot.
The_Alchemist
Super Anarchist
I take that back. The Planet Sail video has an interview of a yacht broker that got a first hand look at the AC40 and the Auto-pilot not only controls the height, but the pitch and roll of the boat. He said you can basically sit there and steer the boat anywhere from apparent wind angles of 30 to 140.
Kiwing
Super Anarchist
And he says he has a sale provided he can get 3 more. He says there will be 12 AC40s after the AC38 and between AC37 and AC38 there will be races that a privateer can enter.
I also think he said Privateers can enter the AC youth and women series?
All you need is a few mill....
I also think he said Privateers can enter the AC youth and women series?
All you need is a few mill....
I didn't hear him say '12' at any point, may have missed it. Did hear him say the first 10 are taken (me: 8 by the 5 AC teams and so two of them must be buying just one, my guess is LR and Ineos) and the other 2 are by my guess part of the deal with Barcelona where they get 2 for the WAC and YAC. A private owner (he sells the idea of owner-driver several times) could get the first private boat as soon as August. Says that while they cost more upfront they could be cheaper to run than GC32 or RC44 or, especially, TP52 teams. Mostly because of needing fewer people for crew and for support. Fantasizes about a fleet of 8 racing on the Solent.
smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
I think the most prescient and fitting quote of that entire video was “blissfully unaware”.
The salesman dude then completely confirms what I’ve been saying that sums up the derogatory way Krusty looks at the YACnSCAC women and children. If they can sail this thing, any schmo can. Wow.
The salesman dude then completely confirms what I’ve been saying that sums up the derogatory way Krusty looks at the YACnSCAC women and children. If they can sail this thing, any schmo can. Wow.
He went to NZ and clearly got some positive 'sales job' vibes, to help him try to sell boats. He did rightly categorize the AP as requiring inputs for desired ride height, pitch and heel.
smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
Man, the more you listen to the salesman dude, the more embarrassing it gets. “They wheeled it out, put a sail on it and it just worked. It didn’t have to go back into the shed to get re-engineered….”
Until it didn’t. And it did.
Good luck selling this POS.
Until it didn’t. And it did.
Good luck selling this POS.
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I much prefer the 'man-powered' F50s and SailGP but there is room for other style events and this could eventually be one of them.
smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
I also just have to shake my head when he’s talking about comparative costs to running a TP52 or GC32 campaign - saying the AC40 will be far less cost in terms of the sail budget, the crew, the maintenance. Really? He knows all this from looking at the thing for 1 day? He has absolutely no freakin’ clue.
I could see running them as being comparable to running a GC32 or even RC44 campaign. But the fact he sounds so cost-sensitive may not bode well, for the 'quality' of owner-drivers he has in mind.
EB ran a decent ACWS series in the leadup to AC32 and then Daddy Warbucks LE ran big-big ACWS series in AC45s then AC45 Foilers, for AC34 and AC35 - and then stepped it up even bigger for SailGP. This new series might need a serious backer too if the guy is going to be able to sell boats.
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smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
Yeah - and another MAJOR problem is that you obviously can ONLY sail these things in moderate conditions and flat water - and only on auto-pilot. Trying to compare that to the TP52s is ridiculous.
I can see how they want to make that highly moneyed crowd their main market because it’s a “monohull” after all. But it’s a simply stupid equivalence. There is zero comparison.
I can see how they want to make that highly moneyed crowd their main market because it’s a “monohull” after all. But it’s a simply stupid equivalence. There is zero comparison.
