Am guessing that performance-wise they will be similar, the AC40 could be a touch quicker than the F50 upwind. Would be fun if they do race off at some point, or at least hear comparisons by sailors on that subject. But 'event' wise, well SailGP is going to be very hard to top! That fleet is progressively getting bigger and also faster.
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smackdaddy
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Sure, I can see it now…the TP52 market being all over the AC40…
The Squid Game that everyone will want to sign up for.
PS - As for this shart of a boat and the F50, it’s not even worth talking about.
The Squid Game that everyone will want to sign up for.
PS - As for this shart of a boat and the F50, it’s not even worth talking about.
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Wow, that could have killed several people!
smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
Imagine, instead of a sprit, a hanging foil slicing through everything and everyone like a sushi knife.
That’s what’s coming.
That’s what’s coming.
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Sailbydate
Super Anarchist
Yep. Much like a tourist bus going over a cliff? At least that'll be a much more regular occurrence than that sushi-fest you keep dreaming about, Smack.
smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
Maybe. But collisions in close quarters sailboat racing happen FAR more often than mountainous bus launches.
In other words…it’s absolutely a foreseeable and obvious eventuality. One that Krusty and Clowns are ”blissfully” ignoring.
When it happens (not if), it’s going to be legally cataclysmic.
What the Fuckwitt hasn't accounted for is that they're developing T foils for the F50 that'll make them even more dangerous than the 40s because of the extra width of the platform. If there's going to be any heading loping happening, it'll be with a raised but still flat T foil.
smackdaddy
Super Anarchist
This is actually a fair point. And there’s early talk of developing a type of “halo” system similar to F1 cars. In fact, I think it was Verstsppen or one of the other drivers that mentioned the need for it when he rode the pony.
We will see what develops.
Of course, none of this changes the fact that the AC40 is a wildly dangerous shart of a boat...intended for the private market unlike the F50.
Kiwing
Super Anarchist
He must be worried!
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
"ACWS" was a term in the AC36 protocol but not in AC37. They are just the snappily named "Preliminary Regattas". Yes the results feed into the CSS Round Robin seedings. Protocol 7.3.c.
nav
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Suggesting there is room in the regatta planning already for teams other than AC teams to participate in the Youth and Women's series - using the same pool of boats.
Not to be confused with boats that may be delivered at some point to a private owner
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
We will see but boat salesmen bigging up the prospect of a fleet that never turns into reality isn't altogether unheard of.
For sure. Would like to see it happen (why not?) but am not holding my breath. Matt Sheahan also shows the new 30' Farr X2, that boat strikes me as having the better chance.
Liquid
NFLTG
Next step: Single, centered helm station: land sailor config.
Then: Add servos and just RC the thing from your helicopter, mansion or super yacht.
What's a new TP52 cost on the starting line not including personnel, $3.5M?
barfy
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Boybland
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I have tried to watch SailGP multiple times.
Sorry but the racing rules are just dead set stupid!
Races keep being dialed back to the previous mark because apparently nobody has an attention span longer than fifteen minutes now...
Pretty stupid to stop a yacht race five minutes away from the finish line and declare the winner was actiually decided five minuts ago but no one actually knew it at the time!
It's a complete waste of absolutely fantastics boats.
Liquid
NFLTG
But, but, but....
There's a 'finals' race where the winner wins!
and $1M prize at the end
That SailGP can get people to pay to watch a sailboat race from land is the temporary magic of it all.
Not to worry though, the future AC40 pro circuit will crush SailGP.
TP52 and RC44 top mark roundings are far more interesting anyway!
There's a 'finals' race where the winner wins!
and $1M prize at the end
That SailGP can get people to pay to watch a sailboat race from land is the temporary magic of it all.
Not to worry though, the future AC40 pro circuit will crush SailGP.
TP52 and RC44 top mark roundings are far more interesting anyway!
The_Alchemist
Super Anarchist
It is not just the boat, but the organization that creates the circuit of races. Who is willing to bank the money on building such a circuit of races on the AC40?
SailGP has made it past the creation stage and has some momentum. AC40 is not yet even a wannabe.
Why can't both circuits exist? From my point of view they are aimed at different categories, even if there can be some overlap for some sailors and maybe even some sponsors.
I think the key point is that for the most part a non professional, most women (or even most men for that matter!), and most young people won't/can't make it into SailGP - that will still mostly be for the best of the best professional sailors in a made for TV format and they seem to have found a good niche there.
Aside from it's America's Cup role, I see the AC40 class having the possibility of an RC44 type circuit, so still high level, but below the level of a SailGP campaign in terms of running a huge program like that, and therefore more accessible to more people.
Got a few million bucks to spare? You can buy an AC40 and go racing.
Some of that could be a stepping stone to greater things, but some of it could also simply be stand alone class racing, or it may well even be attractive for an event to host a class for them.
It might be interesting to see an AC40 class racing at Voile de St Tropez for example.
Things don't need to be so black and white, and rarely are in the real world.
Different shades of grey, or even brighter colours, provide options for different groups and different interests.
SailGP will continue in it's made for TV format (at which it has become very successful - hats off to them), and the AC40 class can find it's own niche, being more things to more people, and I think that is exactly what was originally intended.
That seems like a good thing to me
I think the key point is that for the most part a non professional, most women (or even most men for that matter!), and most young people won't/can't make it into SailGP - that will still mostly be for the best of the best professional sailors in a made for TV format and they seem to have found a good niche there.
Aside from it's America's Cup role, I see the AC40 class having the possibility of an RC44 type circuit, so still high level, but below the level of a SailGP campaign in terms of running a huge program like that, and therefore more accessible to more people.
Got a few million bucks to spare? You can buy an AC40 and go racing.
Some of that could be a stepping stone to greater things, but some of it could also simply be stand alone class racing, or it may well even be attractive for an event to host a class for them.
It might be interesting to see an AC40 class racing at Voile de St Tropez for example.
Things don't need to be so black and white, and rarely are in the real world.
Different shades of grey, or even brighter colours, provide options for different groups and different interests.
SailGP will continue in it's made for TV format (at which it has become very successful - hats off to them), and the AC40 class can find it's own niche, being more things to more people, and I think that is exactly what was originally intended.
That seems like a good thing to me
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