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Stingray~

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^ O c'mon, get real :D It's just a fun opinion.

'Head loppers' for the foils made me laugh! Despite the hyperbole it does, as even you admit, point to a concern.
 

The_Alchemist

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"ETNZ clearly doesn’t care about crew safety"

In this context this is actionable slander . If you dont want to believe me we could ask the opinion of the ETNZ legal team!

You will do as you see fit. I would remove the whole set of posts from smakkie on this subject now that the matter has been brought to your attention.

safety is important and is a proper subject for discussion here in which i would participate. such discourse is not possible while smakkie is shitting all over it!

 

Filthy Phill

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Smackdaddy here doing what he loves doing....making up some kind of drama that makes him feel relevant. In the last ac cycle he loved how Magic was stable and fast. Every other teams attempt at the mono foiling was going to be a disaster. How wrong he was. Now the ac40 is a death trap and anything AC is subject to scorn. Classic stuff indeed. This is the forefront of sailing tech, and i would suggest mr smack is considerably under qualified to make any assumptions on what is and what should never be (LZ).
 

smackdaddy

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Aw Phil, see what you’ve done? Now you’re going to have to prove what you’re saying I said.

I do recall saying that AM was fast - very early on. And the record books prove that I was right.…yet again. And I do remember saying how ETNZ had shown great inability to sail fast in higher end conditions. And lucky for them, they never had to.

As for the rest of it…go do your homework…bring it back here…and we will talk.
 

jmh2002

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And I do remember saying how ETNZ had shown great inability to sail fast in higher end conditions. And lucky for them, they never had to..

Err... what... ?

If anything ETNZ Te Aihe was optimised for more breeze and struggled a bit in the lighter air in the AC final, compounded by some lack of race fitness by the team with a relatively new boat, as can happen when being the defender.

But as soon as there was a bit more breeze the boat lit up and they were gone, at times sailing several knots faster with the same or better VMG - the sheer raw performance difference was enormous.

If anyone was lucky it was Luna Rossa, because if there was 15kn plus everyday ETNZ could possibly have won every single race, thoroughly embarrassing the Italians.

So, you may well be remembering incorrectly...
 
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Filthy Phill

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Mr Smack replies knowing what he has said (unless he suffers memory loss), and thinks putting the onus back on me exonerates him from his own misgivings. It still doesn't escape Mr Smack from the never ending hole of bollucks he is digging. Down in a hole (AIC)
 

Filthy Phill

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AM were fast and stable...entnz were going down the mine. Pretty sure that sums up Mr Smacks trail of drivel . Surely such sentiments given with absolutely resolute conviction cannot be swept aside now with pronuncing next.
 

smackdaddy

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AM were fast and stable...entnz were going down the mine. Pretty sure that sums up Mr Smacks trail of drivel . Surely such sentiments given with absolutely resolute conviction cannot be swept aside now with pronuncing next.

Oh yes, I said those things. Was I right? Well, as I said above, AM is in the record books for the AC75 speed record (not Kiwiziland). And only one team broke the sprit off their boat in a video by going down the mine so hard - and that‘s Kiwiziland (not AM).

And finally, one boat almost sunk when sailing truly fast and leading the fleet, due to the poor overall design of the AC75. And that’s AM (not Kiwiziland because they never proved the ability to go truly fast in an AC75).

So I’m glad we are in agreement Phil.
 
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Sailbydate

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Oh yes, I said those things. Was I right? Well, as I said above, AM is in the record books for the AC75 speed record (not Kiwiziland). And only one team broke the sprit off their boat in a video by going down the mine so hard - and that‘s Kiwiziland (not AM).

And finally, one boat almost sunk when sailing truly fast and leading the fleet, due to the poor overall design of the AC75. And that’s AM (not Kiwiziland because they never proved the ability to go truly fast in an AC75).

So I’m glad we are in agreement Phil.
And here's me thinking ETNZ's objective is to defend the, America's Cup, when all along being fastest is apparently the goal. After all, the fastest boat always wins, right? No wait....
 

smackdaddy

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And here's me thinking ETNZ's objective is to defend the, America's Cup, when all along being fastest is apparently the goal. After all, the fastest boat always wins, right? No wait....

You’re absolutely right Sailby. That was definitely the objective. But many of these chuckleheads try to have it both ways.

ETNZ had to be only a tiny bit faster than the slowest boat on the course to win. And they did that - eventually - after what seemed like weeks in each race due to the sleeper conditions. But that’s not fast. And that’s my point.
 

Filthy Phill

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How many races did AM win in the Prada Cup AC36 with all that speed and stability? Zero...zilch...nought...the big doughnut. They did make a successful tilt at going down the mine though. Also I'm happy i jogged your memory.

What I'm getting at here is that your analysis is not to be taken seriously as you don't seem to get anything correct.
 


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