Alfa for Hobart '09 - plus five more 100 footers?

[the quiet one]

The boat that neville was referring to is zana, I was talking to him about it and he just doesn't think it is capable of competing with the newer boats, which is completely correct

for line honours, he would be correct. The guys that now have zana are more concerned with correcting out on handicap, and that is crystal ball stuff..................

 

[socalsailor38]

The boat that neville was referring to is zana, I was talking to him about it and he just doesn't think it is capable of competing with the newer boats, which is completely correct

for line honours, he would be correct. The guys that now have zana are more concerned with correcting out on handicap, and that is crystal ball stuff..................

right, do you know who they have as crew now?

 

[terrafirma]

The boat that neville was referring to is zana, I was talking to him about it and he just doesn't think it is capable of competing with the newer boats, which is completely correct

for line honours, he would be correct. The guys that now have zana are more concerned with correcting out on handicap, and that is crystal ball stuff..................

Yes Zana isn't a Canter whereas the others are. Thats a huge advantage as we know from previous results. Have Skandia confirmed? Wharro has had a hard year with court cases etc, having said that I couldn't imagine Wharro ever not doing a Hobart. We know Wharro won't die wondering. Alpha has improved recently, we know WO was designed to be faster than Alfa however after last years scare with Skandia I think Alfa is equal favourite. Virgin Money/Speedboat is still an unkown to a point, she would be strong reaching and running in a breeze but any light stuff and the RP's will be gone.

Will be interesting to see, what changes Maximus have made, manual winches and keel fin were disadvantages for them. Have they retained their mast design.?

 

[socalsailor38]

If speedboat competes, it will have a very good chance of winning line honours. It is built to be beefier and more heavy duty than alfa

 

[monosailor]

Maximus still doesn't have a keel, its been wrapped up and stored. Wouldn't have thought she was going to be doing the hobart

 

[Chris Spalding]

Maximus still doesn't have a keel, its been wrapped up and stored. Wouldn't have thought she was going to be doing the hobart

Story I heard is she's being chartered for the Hobart, not sure how far the truth goes on this one but thats the story I heard through the winches.

 

[TPG]

If speedboat competes, it will have a very good chance of winning line honours. It is built to be beefier and more heavy duty than alfa

WOXI might have something to say about that.

Especially against an unproven boat.

 

[socalsailor38]

If speedboat competes, it will have a very good chance of winning line honours. It is built to be beefier and more heavy duty than alfa

WOXI might have something to say about that.

Especially against an unproven boat.

of course, but speedboat still has better hardware and lines for reaching conditions and downwind conditions

 

[TPG]

If speedboat competes, it will have a very good chance of winning line honours. It is built to be beefier and more heavy duty than alfa

WOXI might have something to say about that.

Especially against an unproven boat.

of course, but speedboat still has better hardware and lines for reaching conditions and downwind conditions

Apparently not considering they were breaking shit and had to go to Bermuda on the Transatlantic attempt and barely beat Rambler and Puma in Newport-Bermuda in light air.

Lets try facts for once, shall we?

 

[socalsailor38]

If speedboat competes, it will have a very good chance of winning line honours. It is built to be beefier and more heavy duty than alfa

WOXI might have something to say about that.

Especially against an unproven boat.

of course, but speedboat still has better hardware and lines for reaching conditions and downwind conditions

Apparently not considering they were breaking shit and had to go to Bermuda on the Transatlantic attempt and barely beat Rambler and Puma in Newport-Bermuda in light air.

Lets try facts for once, shall we?

most boats break shit at some point or another. I also never said anything about light air, the boat isn't suited for light stuff at all, but in heavier weather it should do well

 

[TPG]

If speedboat competes, it will have a very good chance of winning line honours. It is built to be beefier and more heavy duty than alfa

WOXI might have something to say about that.

Especially against an unproven boat.

of course, but speedboat still has better hardware and lines for reaching conditions and downwind conditions

Apparently not considering they were breaking shit and had to go to Bermuda on the Transatlantic attempt and barely beat Rambler and Puma in Newport-Bermuda in light air.

Lets try facts for once, shall we?

most boats break shit at some point or another. I also never said anything about light air, the boat isn't suited for light stuff at all, but in heavier weather it should do well

I'd advise you to never take up betting.

 

[yachtie2k4]

WOXI getting modified currently.

 

[ntman]

so cal if we get lots of reaching and running i'd agree with you. of course the s2h is pretty often up wind or tight reaching for for a large percentage. for some comparison between boats built for reaching / downwind it may be helpful to look at how boats like open 60's have gone compared to more general purpose boats.

oats and alfa aint exactly slow in those conditions either -----it should be a great battle ------finally!

 

[SCARECROW]

I'd put money on there only being 4 on the line come boxing day.

 

[socalsailor38]

so cal if we get lots of reaching and running i'd agree with you. of course the s2h is pretty often up wind or tight reaching for for a large percentage. for some comparison between boats built for reaching / downwind it may be helpful to look at how boats like open 60's have gone compared to more general purpose boats.
oats and alfa aint exactly slow in those conditions either -----it should be a great battle ------finally!

right, we will just have to see.

 

[TPG]

WOXI getting modified currently.

Again? :blink:

 

[Flippin Out]

I'd put money on there only being 4 on the line come boxing day.

I'll take your money thanks.....................how much did you says again ??

From Rob Mundle article . . .

One of the five other supermaxis that Wild Oats XI will line up against in the Hobart race, Peter Millard’s Lahana (formerly the kiwi supermaxi Zana), will also use Audi Hamilton Island Race Week as part of its preparation program. The four other big boats going for line honours in December are Leopard (Mike Slade) out of the UK, kiwi Neville Crichton’s Alfa Romeo, Wild Thing (Grant Wharington, Vic), and Maximus, which has been chartered from its kiwi owner by Sydney yachtsman Sean Langman.

 

[mexican]

and you're confident that everything Rob Mundle predicts always come to fruition because...?

 

[theParadoxOfThrift]

Sail World was claiming that Sean Langman has chartered Maximus for the Hobart.

 

[ntman]

so cal i'm not sure we'll get the chance to see - afaik speedboat isn't coming! ;-(