Alinghi Challenge AC37

Tornado-Cat

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Humm, Ernesto sounds like Ben here:

"Parmi les points que nous souhaitons voir évoluer, il y a forcément les conditions équitables pour permettre à de nouvelles équipes de participer à la compétition et évidemment les mesures qui seront prises pour rendre cette participation plus abordable. L’America’s Cup représente l’Everest de la voile et le Protocole qui en définit les règles en est en quelque sorte le bulletin météo… On ne se lance pas dans une ascension de l’Everest si les prévisions sont mauvaises d’emblée."

"Among the points that we want to see evolve, there are necessarily the fair conditions to allow new teams to participate in the competition and obviously the measures that will be taken to make this participation more affordable. The America’s Cup represents the Everest of sailing and the Protocol that defines the rules is sort of the weather report… You don't go climbing Everest if the forecast is bad right off the bat." (Translation from Zaal)

 

NZK

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I would not be surprised to see Nathan Outteridge at the helm
Slingsby to Alinghi - maybe taking Parko and Goobs back with him from INEOS (but I think Ernesto has some 'home-grown' talent from the Alinghi camp that he might want in flight control and mainsail positions....)

Outeridge to AM to partner with Goody and Andrew Campbell

Add that to the LR, INEOS and ETNZ line-ups and you'd have a hell of a regatta...

I'd be very keen to see an Alinghi challenge - EB cops a lot of shit here for how the DOG went down (and for poaching Kiwi talent) but in the cycles prior to the DOG debacle he did a lot of good for the AC as a whole and a lot of good to individual teams with acts of generosity when shit hit the fan with breakages etc. I think adding another established AC team to the fold will only be a benefit - plus if Alinghi do commit then these forums will go into a complete meltdown...

 

strider470

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Slingsby to Alinghi - maybe taking Parko and Goobs back with him from INEOS (but I think Ernesto has some 'home-grown' talent from the Alinghi camp that he might want in flight control and mainsail positions....)

Outeridge to AM to partner with Goody and Andrew Campbell

Add that to the LR, INEOS and ETNZ line-ups and you'd have a hell of a regatta...

I'd be very keen to see an Alinghi challenge - EB cops a lot of shit here for how the DOG went down (and for poaching Kiwi talent) but in the cycles prior to the DOG debacle he did a lot of good for the AC as a whole and a lot of good to individual teams with acts of generosity when shit hit the fan with breakages etc. I think adding another established AC team to the fold will only be a benefit - plus if Alinghi do commit then these forums will go into a complete meltdown...
Especially if they do commit as COR :D

 

Forourselves

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If Alinghi do return to the AC (and thats a big "if") I don't think we'll see another mass buy up of another team. Ernesto has built up a strong sailing team, independent of the Americas Cup, and has had great success in doing that. He has established his team as a dominant force on the multihull sailing stage.

His sailing team has continuity, and consistency from the design and development team to the sailing team. They've come up with a new platform in the TF35, taken it from concept to development, to racing, to establishing its own stand alone circuit.

I think Ernesto would be quite confident in the sailing team he has, as opposed to buying up another AC team like he did in 2003.

 

NZL3481

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Soon after the last finish line, the recruitment race will begin (maybe it already started as we speak)
It started when the teams arrived in Auckland.

The two most wanted people in the AC are Bernasconi and Verdier (not necessarily in that order). 

 
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strider470

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If Alinghi do return to the AC (and thats a big "if") I don't think we'll see another mass buy up of another team. Ernesto has built up a strong sailing team, independent of the Americas Cup, and has had great success in doing that. He has established his team as a dominant force on the multihull sailing stage.

His sailing team has continuity, and consistency from the design and development team to the sailing team. They've come up with a new platform in the TF35, taken it from concept to development, to racing, to establishing its own stand alone circuit.

I think Ernesto would be quite confident in the sailing team he has, as opposed to buying up another AC team like he did in 2003.
That is true, but he will need also a design team capable of designing a winning AC75 starting from scratch.

 

Forourselves

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That is true, but he will also need a design team capable of designing a winning AC75 starting from scratch.
I remember right at the beginning of the cycle, when there were a few posters on here who wrote LR off because they didn't have a design team to speak of. They had no big names in the design sector, they had no Bernasconi, or Holroyd, they just had a few no name guys no one had ever heard of, so they didn't have a chance. Before Bermuda, Elise Beavis was a poor student, and an under achieving sailor. Then she was hired by Team NZ, and was, and still is, a critical part of their design team. You don't need high profile names, all you need are people who are good at what they do.

Same with Ryan Thomas, as in the video below, he was a no one that Dan Bernasconi found on Linked in.

You don't need high profile people. INEOS found that out the hard way.

You just need the right people in the right place.




 

strider470

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14 minutes ago, Forourselves said:

I remember right at the beginning of the cycle, when there were a few posters on here who wrote LR off because they didn't have a design team to speak of. They had no big names in the design sector, they had no Bernasconi, or Holroyd, they just had a few no name guys no one had ever heard of, so they didn't have a chance. Before Bermuda, Elise Beavis was a poor student, and an under achieving sailor. Then she was hired by Team NZ, and was, and still is, a critical part of their design team. You don't need high profile names, all you need are people who are good at what they do.

Same with Ryan Thomas, as in the video below, he was a no one that Dan Bernasconi found on Linked in.

You don't need high profile people. INEOS found that out the hard way.

You just need the right people in the right place.


Maybe you're right but I always fear EB's attitude.

Btw in LR there are also the likes of Mario Caponnetto

 
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dogwatch

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. I think adding another established AC team to the fold will only be a benefit 
It is no longer in any meaningful sense an established team. That's long gone. Playing in a local Lake Geneva class is hardly the AC game.

But I would enjoy seeing EB kick GD in the balls by hiring some key players.

 
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NZK

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It is no longer in any meaningful sense an established team. That's long gone. Playing in a local Lake Geneva class is hardly the AC game.

But I would enjoy seeing EB kick GD in the balls by hiring some key players.
I guess I meant that there is probably still enough of a 'back-room' organisation left over or ready to come back into the fold that can build the rest of the team. They're not exactly newbies at this game....

 

Enzedel92

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AC 37 participants:

ETNZ

Luna Rossa

INEOS

American Magic

Alinghi

Artemis

BMW Oracle.

Oh boy lots of heavy hitters!!!  

 
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