Alinghi Challenge AC37
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Very good, almost guessed that was Safra.
To make it germane to SAAC, there used to be a prolific poster here who was living in British Columbia and who went most recently by Hastings (and who turned out to have been an anti-Alinghi BlackHeart leader in Auckland in 2003) and he liked to relate how in 2007 Valencia he gave Safra a ride in his rental car for some reason, and it was quite a conversation! Lol
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pusslicker
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Sailbydate
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Max, has never been short of opinions., where TNZ is concerned. I expect this one will be wrong, also.
Mr. Squirrel
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I have friends that work for AM that are still in NZ. They never left after the cup
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Forourselves
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I'm not sure this time around- it seems like someone came up with a good way of letting the F1 teams conform with their own cost cutting measures without losing designers, just have some billionaire who's fucking about with sail boats pay for them for a couple of seasons....
As for how much the collaborations will actually bring to the table? That I'm not so sure about but I do think it's more likely to be in the relatively 'invisible' hydro control systems and then data analysis/modelling and team management rather than some elaborate F1 inspired aero package...
For anyone who can access this one?
Paul Lewis: The rumours that could shake up the America's Cup - NZ Herald
Paul Lewis: The rumours that could shake up the America's Cup - NZ Herald
shebeen
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just added Bypass paywall browser extension on chrome...bazinga!
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-get-past-a-paywall-to-read-an-article-for-free-1847800292
OPINION:
Alinghi's challenge for the 37th America's Cup is not only imbuing the next regatta with a large dose of credibility, it is moving the Cup closer to F1.
Literally. The yachting bars and gossip mills are alive with the possibility that Alinghi may be entering not just with Swiss billionaire owner Ernesto Bertarelli's millions but also with the reputed backing of F1 team Red Bull – also a Swiss sporting icon. That puts them on a par, at least, with Ineos Team UK and their connection with the Mercedes F1 team.
There's more – talk is also reaching receptive ears that Luna Rossa, not to be outdone, may be hooking up with another F1 giant, Ferrari. It's just gossip for now – but Alinghi's involvement was just bar talk for a long time too. Until it wasn't.
Alinghi themselves haven't said anything yet but scroll around the world's media and yachting media and the name Red Bull crops up more than once. The giant, foiling AC75s are powered by highly advanced technology and, just like F1, a small advantage in aerodynamics or hydrodynamics can mean big results.
The America's Cup has always been a technology race – never more so than now. The F1 connection is an intriguing development in a regatta still without a venue and, presumably, without the money to stage it yet.
Even the strict nationality rules – designed so Emirates Team New Zealand doesn't lose Kiwi sailors to competing teams – don't seem to have deterred Alinghi. Swiss sailors are racing in Sail GP and the T35s (foiling yachts) to be sailed this year in Switzerland, France and Italy; Alinghi was also the last champion in the now defunct Extreme Sailing Series (40-foot catamarans, a beefed-up version of the Tornados used in the Olympics).
One of their Sail GP sailors, Arnaud Psarophagis, even deputised for Peter Burling and Blair Tuke in that series when the Kiwi pair were preparing for the Olympics this year.
So Alinghi seem to have the sailors – and we are still waiting to hear if Burling and Tuke will re-sign with Team NZ. There's been some talk an offer from Alinghi was a possibility, even if the duo couldn't sail for them (nationality rules again). However, they could bring a whole heap of knowledge and experience with them in an advisory capacity. That still seems a long shot but…watch this space.
Now for a boat – and the talk has been for a long time that Alinghi have been sniffing round Team NZ and Luna Rossa to buy an AC75 from the last regatta – to begin getting to grips with sailing these foiling behemoths (and designing the next one).
JALhazmat
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Daddy stroll owning the Aston martin team doest make it Canadian.
zac isn’t an owner so not sure how him being there makes it a team to tie up with AM.
JALhazmat
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Nice, thanks. Can't/won't use Chrome on my phone but will count on you and others for more from the NZH.
Was that the entire article? Agree that F1 Tech is about to get big in AC, it could pull a bigger audience too.
ro!
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Teddy the wiener took over when Bruce died and did a good job for a number of years but the team was never “American “ and after a couple of poor seasons Marlboro got Ron Dennis to slide a wheel under him and take over McLaren management.
The F1 cost cap will bring Red Bull and Ferrari R&D into the AC game but Haas is not capable of running a competitive F1 team and has zero capacity to help AM.
Zac B is too busy selling off the assets to keep the McLaren empire afloat to get involved with sailing…
enigmatically2
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I don't think any other team will get as much out of the F1 ties as the Brits. All the red bull engineering talent is in the UK (like most teams). So logistics will make it less effective. Whereas the Brits are now colocated of course. The Italians could do that but won't I suspect. The Swiss could in theory but have used the wrong F1 team if they wanted to
In the business world, Alinghi would buy LR1 and set up shop in Cagliari, at least until V2s are splashed
The_Alchemist
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Could explain why they wanted Defiant that would follow along their design schemes. It was a very fast boat, just didn't have the lower sail area and volume of NZ and some possible foils control issues. NZ did lead the ultimate package design, but Defiant lead the way on many performance advantages (foil tip breaking the surface, extreme inverted bow, bat wing, sharp pointed keel line, etc...).
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