Alinghi Challenge AC37
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Jethrow
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I think Ben has first dibs on any Collider.can they use the Large Hadron Collider then?
Am a big fan of the potential in game-changer Fusion tech, the implications for us on this planet are truly mind blowing. Gates and others are starting to bet big on it.
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Sailbydate
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Any day now, Stinger.
Am a big fan of the potential in game-changer Fusion tech, the implications for us on this planet are truly mind blowing. Gates and others are starting to bet big on it.
dogwatch
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Only the Swiss part of the circle.can they use the Large Hadron Collider then?
P.S. The literal minded don't need to explain CiC to me. It's a weak joke.
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dogwatch
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enigmatically2
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Rennmaus
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I'm speechless.
I posted 2 questions during the presser that were not answered (many others were).
Guess what, today the Alinghi press person sent me 2 mails, replying to my questions:
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Some of the questions asked online in the “chat” during the press conference of the new team announcement have not been asked directly, or entirely, so we wanted to come back to each of you with some answers.
[SIZE=10pt]Are there any ties with the Swiss SailGP team?[/SIZE]
- Currently not, but we will explore any possible way to get ready to achieve our main goal, which is winning the 37th America’s Cup. Sailing on SailGP could be one of the options.
[SIZE=10pt]How do you feel about the protocol restricting the boats for AC 38?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] - Too early stage to have a precise opinion on this, let’s first start to sail on these boats [/SIZE]
But overall, to increase the number of teams competing, keeping the same platform (with some improvements), is a good way.
What a great service, thanks Alinghi (<- have I really written that???)
I posted 2 questions during the presser that were not answered (many others were).
Guess what, today the Alinghi press person sent me 2 mails, replying to my questions:
...
Some of the questions asked online in the “chat” during the press conference of the new team announcement have not been asked directly, or entirely, so we wanted to come back to each of you with some answers.
[SIZE=10pt]Are there any ties with the Swiss SailGP team?[/SIZE]
- Currently not, but we will explore any possible way to get ready to achieve our main goal, which is winning the 37th America’s Cup. Sailing on SailGP could be one of the options.
[SIZE=10pt]How do you feel about the protocol restricting the boats for AC 38?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] - Too early stage to have a precise opinion on this, let’s first start to sail on these boats
[/SIZE]But overall, to increase the number of teams competing, keeping the same platform (with some improvements), is a good way.
What a great service, thanks Alinghi (<- have I really written that???)
Well @Rennmaus, no matter what Clean said Alinghi distinguished itself by establishing a relationship with fans. Jack Griffin was handling that, as I recall
Am typing this, while wearing the beanie I won in the AC33 Alinghi Friends competition
The downside was being summoned at 6 am in Valencia’s February to cheer at A5’s dock-out
And no, unfortunately LR doesn’t do that, rather the opposite
Am typing this, while wearing the beanie I won in the AC33 Alinghi Friends competition
The downside was being summoned at 6 am in Valencia’s February to cheer at A5’s dock-out
And no, unfortunately LR doesn’t do that, rather the opposite
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buckdouger
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I won a mug which I enjoy using all the time. Doesn't take much to engage with spectators, yet many don't seem to try.Well @Rennmaus, no matter what Clean said Alinghi distinguished itself by establishing a relationship with fans.
Am typing this, while wearing the beanie I won in the AC33 Alinghi friends competition
The downside was being summoned at 6 am in February’s Valencia, to cheer at A5’s dock-out
And no,
Royal Flush
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Serious question. How can such a rule be checked/enforced? Or is it some "spirit of the competition" self regulation?
I assume there's a lot of gray area with such a rule
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Schakel
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To my gladness, I work there.
The results will be unofficial, it's just general reseach science, for everybody to grab.
Untill you have to pay, sorry.
More news will follow.
The only "grey area" is trying to circumvent the rule. The truth will always come out eventually
There is not much wiggle room in the wording of the Protocol:
24.4 Testing limitations
No Competitor shall carry out fluid dynamic testing of designs, at any scale, in any controlled
environment such as a wind tunnel, cavitation tunnel, towing tank or manoeuvring basin. Any fluid
dynamic testing of designs can only be undertaken in the open air and on open water,
subject to the restrictions of this Article 24.
shebeen
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Sailbydate
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Sailbydate
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So, how advanced are the AI/Simulator tools used by Red Bull and Mercedes, AMG F1 teams?
Would these teams have anything to offer TNZ's tool development? Obviously they won't, but this might well be the competitive advantage, right there.
Thoughts?
Would these teams have anything to offer TNZ's tool development? Obviously they won't, but this might well be the competitive advantage, right there.
Thoughts?
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There is not really "one tool"... They'll be various specialty tools- maybe one to analyze a foil shape and predict hydro flow results, maybe another which uses those results to gage surface deformation, etc.. Then those various results are used to maybe run a F1 car or AC75 around a track, so you can try 1000s of different scenarios without ever having to produce scale models and tow them in a tank, etc.. The AI will come into play once certain characteristics have been set as control properties. The AI can analyze the results of the runs and tease out information which humans would likely miss, and then feed that back into the original models to make adjustments- and around-and-around it goes. None of this stuff is really new- it's all been around, it's just that more recently it's become more feasible to do it at ac75 scale with more than just major components modeled.
How well the F1 teams can integrate into an existing teams work flow is one consideration (more INEOS, LRPP). For Alinghi, even with Red Bull's tooling and help, they are behind, simply because they don't have existing models, tooling, work flow.
They are ahead of where ETNZ/LRPP/AM/INEOS B1's were in terms of the hull design corner of the box- as they all ended up with some form of skeg, so they have some visual queues of where to start, but even then, pretty far behind.
How well the F1 teams can integrate into an existing teams work flow is one consideration (more INEOS, LRPP). For Alinghi, even with Red Bull's tooling and help, they are behind, simply because they don't have existing models, tooling, work flow.
They are ahead of where ETNZ/LRPP/AM/INEOS B1's were in terms of the hull design corner of the box- as they all ended up with some form of skeg, so they have some visual queues of where to start, but even then, pretty far behind.
