Alinghi Challenge AC37

[Stingray~]

how did they get it from valencia back to SanFran, one piece on top of a container ship or deconstructed? if the latter then why not reassemble on site?

Am curious about the deep history of DZ too so here's my recollection (happy to be corrected) for in case some future 'historian' finds this and cares.

DZ was shipped to SD on a barge, see the 'Bitchin Ass Groovy' vid above. And to add some more-fun detail, 3 spars were on that barge. They were sized (in age too) from 178' to 188' to 198'. The wing was in a still-secret construction project at an aerospace facility in Sedro Wooley, a few miles from Anacortes. I forget how the wing reached SD, would be fun to know.

From SD to Valencia was aboard the Ocean Lady (they were on standby waiting for whatever court decision) and that cargo included the wing but iirc only the two shorter spars. I believe they broke the big one off the coast of SD one afternoon but somehow nobody got hurt out there. 

Valencia back to SF could be fun to look up. The only detail I can remember about the final journey to Oracle HQ is about how they took it up some waterway that got them close, then it was helicoptered into that HQ pond. BOR did release a pic or two, maybe even a video.

So... Am guessing it returned intact, doing the Ride On atop a container ship, to SF Bay.

 

[Xlot]

. The wing was in a still-secret construction project at an aerospace facility in Sedro Wooley, a few miles from Anacortes. I forget how the wing reached SD, would be fun to know.

Janicki? By truck, in pieces

 

[Stingray~]

Janicki? By truck, in pieces

Bingo! Thnx

 

[floater]

3 spars were on that barge. They were sized (in age too) from 178' to 188' to 198'. The wing was in a still-secret construction project..

so. four giant mains? presumably out the most exotic material available..

oof. to be a sail-maker on that project.

 

[atwinda]

so. four giant mains? presumably out the most exotic material available..

oof. to be a sail-maker on that project.

They had their own production loft in Minden near the 3DL site. They rejected a lot of blanks too... Lots of wasted carbon. And they had on site loft's in SD and Valencia. The sails wouldn't fit in the local lofts.

 

[idontwan2know]

The wild thing was folks in this forum accurately modeled the design of A5 based on a few sections of reinforced concrete on the site where it was going to be assembled before the tent had gone up or a single component showed up on sight. 

 

[dogwatch]

Yes. I remember reading a lot of what I thought was speculative BS, much of which turned out to be well on the mark.

 

[Gissie]

The wild thing was folks in this forum accurately modeled the design of A5 based on a few sections of reinforced concrete on the site where it was going to be assembled before the tent had gone up or a single component showed up on sight. 

Don’t forget the all important chair. 

 

[Stingray~]

The wild thing was folks in this forum accurately modeled the design of A5 based on a few sections of reinforced concrete on the site where it was going to be assembled before the tent had gone up or a single component showed up on sight. 

 

[Stingray~]

 

[NZK]

They had their own production loft in Minden near the 3DL site. They rejected a lot of blanks too... Lots of wasted carbon. And they had on site loft's in SD and Valencia. The sails wouldn't fit in the local lofts.

And it was this DOG match that first saw the use of what is now 3Di by Alinghi.... The mad Swiss scientists at it again....

 

[floater]

interesting. also, there was a wing.

 

[Xlot]

interesting. also, there was a wing.

After getting to know Duncan McLane (Patient Lady IV) at the 1978 Little America’s Cup, I met him again in Neport on the occasion of the ICCC in 2010.

He told me he had been a consultant to Alinghi for AC33 and had proposed a wing. Bertarelli, however, had deemed it too risky. Bet he won’t be making that mistake again ...

 

[floater]

lol.

 

[atwinda]

And it was this DOG match that first saw the use of what is now 3Di by Alinghi.... The mad Swiss scientists at it again....

Negative. SUI 100 (the last winning IACC from 2003) had the original concept 3Di main. They only had the tape concept in place at that point, and the resulting (orange IIRC) sail was garbage compared to 3DL at the time- It took the North engineers a lot longer to figure out the correct glue, taping paths, and molding process. Which is why we didn't see 3Di on the DOG boats. 

 

[chesirecat]

After getting to know Duncan McLane (Patient Lady IV) at the 1978 Little America’s Cup, I met him again in Neport on the occasion of the ICCC in 2010.

He told me he had been a consultant to Alinghi for AC33 and had proposed a wing. Bertarelli, however, had deemed it too risky. Bet he won’t be making that mistake again ...

Met Brad after and he confirmed above, plus the resources needed were through the roof. Or words to that effect.

 

[Stingray~]

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[Fiji Bitter]

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[Stingray~]

Parli Siciliano?

 

[Xlot]

Checco Bruni: frankly, it’s taking them too long to announce the venue

All: it’s hard to visualize an AC not in the country of the defender

Torben Grael: the key factor in ETNZ’s victory were the small foils, that worked nevertheless. ETNZ was more willing to take risks

Tommaso Chieffi: ETNZ being financially constrained meant that they placed a lot of effort on AI/simulator