Alinghi Challenge AC37

[Stingray~]

 

[Stingray~]

If they are running foils from both ETNZ and AM, perhaps they have foils from other teams too?

 

[buckdouger]

Starboard foil looks like ETNZ W3 or W4. The foil that was on the starboard side for ETNZ at the Christmas regatta. The one with the blended bulb. The other in this pair had less fairing between bulb and wings.
This is also the foil that has the strip of flexible material joining the flaps on either side, which you can still make out as a slightly lighter patch in the centre at the rear.

ETNZ cup foils were skinnier still, and had a noticeable gap between the flaps on either side. The etnz cup foils also appeared to have some anhedral when out of the water not under load.

The port foil looks like on of American Magics foils from Patriot. So, it would be interesting to have those two foils on one boat for A-B testing. If, and it's a big if, it's an AM foil, then it will be interesting how that plumbs in to the ETNZ foil control systems.

Anyway, these foils, and seemingly arms aren't like the new rule. I think from a tech perspective this is a full scale size mule for crew training. And maybe building up a data pool with these two contrasting foils styles from the previous AC.

Port (Patriot foil?)
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Starboard (ETNZ christmas cup foil with blended bulb).

I tend to agree the port looks AMish. However the inset picture bulb terminates in a point, whereas that looks to terminate in an edge?

 

[JonRowe]

It does devalue the old boats though, but perhaps there are too many differences in the rule to make upgrading a legacy boat in to a race boat for AC37.

I don't think there is anything preventing you measuring an old boat as a new boat, it would just be your one AC72, so the value is in the jump start to get sailing in the 20? extra days your given, so limiting the boat to mostly AC36 configuration in my eyes sort of makes sense, as an equaliser for new teams, the 20 extra days sailing is really what you're buying (lol, billionaires, etc)

 

[Flippin Out]

Deano is no longer unemployed.

America's Cup: Dean Barker gets key role as Alinghi launch in Barcelona

Kiwi Cup veteran stays in the game as ambitious Swiss get set to train on Team NZ's old boat.

www.stuff.co.nz

Who would have thought Deano would be working for EB & BB after what transpired all those years ago. Will be interesting to see how it all goes. Credit to Deano for putting it all in the past, but I guess a big fat pay cheque for a few more years would assist with getting over that.

 

[Stingray~]

Who would have thought Deano would be working for EB & BB after what transpired all those years ago. Will be interesting to see how it all goes. Credit to Deano for putting it all in the past, but I guess a big fat pay cheque for a few more years would assist with getting over that.

EB and BB were standing next to each other at the BZ launch, makes sense I guess. There was a report some time back about how BB was encouraging DB to get involved.

 

[Priscilla]

Deano should have taken the job Lord Dalton offered him post the San Francisco down trou and he would now have been a three time AC winner.

 

[Sailing Fan]

from there ^

Throughout this initial training programme in Barcelona, americascup.com will be the place to see all the action as it unfolds. The appointed reconnaissance team will be on the water every day that Alinghi Red Bull Racing will be sailing, bringing exclusive coverage plus interviews with the sailing crew, management, designers and shore team.

Daily video update & onboard
audio,
In less than a week if we're lucky, on americascup.com.

The start of ' sailing to win '
Etnz can join in 17/9 on their ac40.
Ineos in 5 weeks with a test boat.

It could be good 👍

 

[Sailing Fan]

My A team for commentary & interviews (once they get going)

Matt Sheahan
Nathan outeridge - if available
Shirley Robertson
Justin Chisholm (cup insider)
Peter Lester
Magnus Wheatley ( he's ok! )

& others I guess

 

[Stingray~]

My A team for commentary & interviews (once they get going)

Matt Sheahan
Nathan outeridge - if available
Shirley Robertson
Justin Chisholm (cup insider)
Peter Lester
Magnus Wheatley ( he's ok! )

& others I guess

Nice list.

I also like the sailor interviews by pretty much everybody, the top that come to mind in no particular order are JS, NO, GA, BA, BT, PB, Bruni, TH, Giles S, etc.

For designers, DB, NH, MB, DK, and (maybe especially) that Ineos/F1 guy. Britt Ward is cool too.

For 'team bosses' GD and KS, MS, BA and TH again, Nils Frei is pretty good too. Maybe the most 'entertaining' is EB but JR is also interesting.


For documentaries Matt S does a really good job on PlanetSail, hopefully MW will do some for ACE (good personality). Justin C is an excellent writer, have not seen enough video of him to judge that part. And our own Mozzy, of course! For 'features' whoever is producing those Alinghi videos (RB productions, maybe?) have been amazing so far. ETNZ/ACE has already been making a good-enough effort too.

No idea who the AC live commentators will be.. My favorite from AC36 was probably Shirley's cohort Ken Reed. Really enjoyed Jodi Shiels when he was still with SailGP, hope he gets some quality time too.

 

[Sea Breeze 74]

Cup Critiqued: Barker moves to Alinghi Red Bull Racing ... Wing foil wonderings

The rumours were confirmed at the launch of Alinghi Red Bull Racing's newly acquired AC75, that Dean Barker a veteran of seven America's Cups, has shifted to the ARBR coach boat.

www.sail-world.com

 

[Sailing Fan]

Sailing & boss's lists are 👍
Design perspective is always appreciated.

Ken read & american viewpoints on the racing commentary are valued too.

Good listing Stingray

 

[Stingray~]

Sailing & boss's lists are 👍
Design perspective is always appreciated.

Ken read & american viewpoints on the racing commentary are valued too.

Good listing Stingray

Yes, fun to look forward to the possibilities. Am sure there will be more for our media lists, maybe new names too with the new 'Recon Show' whatever-thing.

Am considering going to Barcelona with a friend next month for a few days, just for fun. A friend enjoyed the recent Alinghi video and thought he could trap me into using that excuse for getting the heck out of town even if his own motives are more about booze, beaches and bitches

 

[Fiji Bitter]

You guys are missing 2 up and coming youngsters!

New charming sailgp reporter Emily Nagel is a blast, with more insights than a lot of those mentioned.

And what about never die hall of famer PJ Montgomery? The super raconteur, having made up with Dalts, will no doubt show up somewhere...

 

[Sailing Fan]

You guys are missing 2 up and coming youngsters!

New charming sailgp reporter Emily Nagel is ablast, with more insights than a lot of those mentioned.

And what about never die hall of famer PJ Montgommery? The super raconteur, having made up with Dalts, will no doubt show up somewhere...

Don't know about Pj bitter, but that chris Steele? NZ match racing champion was good value on the Bermuda commentary alongside the boss ( PJ )
One more team for the list.

 

[Sailing Fan]

Yes, fun to look forward to the possibilities. Am sure there will be more for our media lists, maybe new names too with the new 'Recon Show' whatever-thing.

Am considering going to Barcelona with a friend next month for a few days, just for fun. A friend enjoyed the recent Alinghi video and thought he could trap me into using that excuse for getting the heck out of town even if his own motives are more about booze, beaches and bitches

I think you should go Stingray, while your buddy is at the beach, you could be getting location pics, gathering information & filming the alinghi base.
With a daily upload to you know where.

 

[Fiji Bitter]

With a daily upload to you know where.

Fuck, that will make you responsible for a daily load of bitching about his mate's bitches.

Never mind, I can't normaly see his posts anyways...

 

[JALhazmat]

Can’t see MW getting to cosy with the interviews seeing as his ability to remain impartial was rather exposed last time out..

still at least he talked utter shit about all of the teams, personnel and sponsors.

the only one he didn’t and was Alighi, only by dint of their absence, maybe that’s why that is all he has written about in his new role

 

[Stingray~]

Subscription reqd

America's Cup: Dean Barker reveals reason for joining Alinghi

Barker can see the irony - and believes Auckland should be hosting the next Cup.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[shebeen]

Subscription reqd

America's Cup: Dean Barker reveals reason for joining Alinghi

Barker can see the irony - and believes Auckland should be hosting the next Cup.

www.nzherald.co.nz

chrome extension called "bypass paywalls" gets you in.
NZ tech is not a worldclass everywhere on the whole island.

Shut out of an on-board role for AC37 due to the strict nationality rules, Barker started talking to Butterworth and co a few months ago about taking on a coaching role with Alinghi, who have purchased Team New Zealand's first AC75, Te Aihe.

bullcrap. he is eligible for 2 of the 5 teams, he's just 2 cup cycles past his sell by date.