Alberta
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Talk to Merfyn of Owen Clarke design, he knows them backwards and forwards and is the best source for a used boat.
All things Class40
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In looking at boats, it is worth keeping in mind the recent rule changes regarding the cockpit door (in effect now), new minimum weight (in transition phase now), and increased buoyancy of 3m^2 to 5m^2 (in full force at year end 2021 though tied in with the min weight transition). In the range of RC3, Pogo S3, I might also consider a Mach2 (if one were available) or 157 (if in the same range) though individual boat details could sway a decision one way or another. How to modify a door and where to put the additional buoyancy might not be a simple task.
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A great overview of where Class40 currently stands - excuse the google translation and full credit to Tip and Shaft who like normal go above and beyond with their content!
https://www.tipandshaft.com - for those that aren't subscribed!
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BETWEEN NEW AND USED BOATS, THE CLASS40 IN FULL BOOM
With five boats already built since the summer of 2019, around fifteen to come by the Route du Rhum and a second-hand market that is doing well, the Class40 continues to attract skippers and partners. Tip & Shaft takes stock of current and upcoming projects.
As with each edition of the Route du Rhum, the Class40 is currently experiencing strong activity, with a booming construction market. In the wake of Yoann Richomme’s victory in the 2018 edition on a Lombard plan whose shape resembled that of the scows, the “round nose” Class40s arrived in force. Crédit Mutuel, Ian Lipinski's first Max 40 (David Raison plan), won the 2019 Transat Jacques Vabre, while Banque du Léman, the Manuard plan (Mach 40.4) of the Swiss duo Valentin Gautier / Simon Koster, won. on the Normandy Channel Race last September.
This made Aurélien Ducroz, who is expecting his new Crosscall for the end of April, say: "There has been a real architectural break with the scows, if you want to be ambitious and play in front, you don't have much choice." Nicolas Groleau, boss of the JPS yard, from which came the five scows built to date (Crédit Mutuel, Banque du Léman, the Mach 4 E. Leclerc Ville la Grand by Olivier Magré and Redman by Antoine Carpentier as well as the Max40 Project Rescue Ocean by Axel Tréhin), adds: "We find the scow effect already seen in Mini, this design gives such an advantage that those who have sporting ambitions sell their boat to build one."
In all, around twenty new boats will thus leave the site between the two editions of the Route du Rhum, compared to 15 during the previous cycle and 39 between 2010 and 2014. Quite a dynamic in the current context!
New boats for Grassi, Le Roch and Perraut
Two Lift 2s (Lombard plan) are thus expected in the spring: the first built in Australia for Rupert Henry, the second for Aurélien Ducroz (at Grand Largue Composites and V1D2 in Caen). Advertised price: between 556,000 euros and 710,000 euros HT ready to sail. A third specimen for the Rum, built in recyclable materials, will be made official next week, built by Lalou Multi for Keni Piperol.
At JPS, the production schedule is well loaded with three Max 40 and two Mach 4 signed (between 600,000 and 650,000 HT each according to Nicolas Groleau). As for the Reason plans, Volvo of Jonas Gerckens (who will compete in the Transat Jacques Vabre with Benoît Hantzberg) will be launched at the end of April; it will be followed at the end of July by that of Amélie Grassi. The former miner, who is new to the Class40, says: "I tried the Max and the Mach, I found the former to pull a little less, it is easier to use, I felt more comfortable."
Construction of a third Reason plan will begin in August for Matthieu Perraut, another newcomer from the Mini class. "The Class40, in addition to being dynamic and user-friendly, is the ideal medium to continue to progress offshore, which is my goal," says the professional architect. Regarding the Manuard plans, a boat is under construction for Emmanuel Le Roch, formalized soon, a second will be launched immediately for a skipper for the Route du Rhum.
The class opens to new architects
Another well-occupied site at the moment: Structures, from which Serenis Consulting will emerge at the end of April, the very first Pogo S4 (Verdier plan) for Jean Galfione, who will run the Transat Jacques Vabre with Eric Péron. It will be followed this summer by two other copies for François-René Carluer and Emmanuel Hamez, whose priority objective is to run the Route du Rhum. Both are looking to rent their new Class40 for the Jacques Vabre, the second announcing a price of 90,000 euros excluding tax, which it can halve if the renter takes it on board.
For the shipyard based in Combrit, the beginnings of this new series, marketed between 410,000 and 510,000 euros HT (with electronics and pilot, but without the sails which cost between 70,000 and 80,000), are considered very encouraging, as the Confides Erwan Tymen: "Starting a series with three boats already sold is a lot more comfortable for us on the development of parts and on the amortization. And behind that, we are in advanced discussions for two additional boats."
Hitherto concentrated in the hands of the aforementioned shipyards and architects, the Class40 is also open to other designers: Etienne Bertrand and Guillaume Dupont have designed a boat built at Cape Racing Yachts. Jörg Riechers, who works with the South African shipyard, explains: "Two copies have been sold, the first for an enlightened amateur with whom I will run the Transat Jacques Vabre, the second for a professional skipper." Price announced by the German sailor: 450,000 euros excluding VAT, without sails nor electronic.
Finally, another little news is eagerly awaited this year: the Clak 40, designed by VPLP and built by Multiplast, two of which have been ordered by the Italian Andrea Fornaro - who will make the season in doubles with the Russian Igor Goikhberg - and by Nicolas d'Estais, also from the Mini class. "The Class40 is really the logical continuation of the Mini, the boats are fun and the class guarantees a good return on investment for sponsors", explains the latter.
This is also the opinion of Corentin Douguet who should soon unveil his project, also on a new Class40: "I will be on the circuit in 2022. The class is nice, with really fast boats, on which you spend more than time to sail than to do R&D. And that's still relatively cheap: a new Class40 costs ten times less than an Imoca. " Finally, no doubt for a delivery in 2023, Catherine Pourre is also counting, once she has sold her current Mach 3, to start the construction of a boat, she told us.
25 used boats sold in 2020
The sailor, used to the class, should not have too much trouble finding a buyer for her Class40, the second-hand market remaining active: 25 boats have changed hands in 2020. All built before 2019, they are likely to suffer. the arrival of the scows, as Kito de Pavant fears: "This is not necessarily good news in economic terms and because the class has been fairly homogeneous until now. There is a big gap."
In an attempt to limit this gap, some have undertaken major modifications to the bow of their boat. This is the case of Nils Boyer on Le Choix Funéraire: "We were the first to cut the bow in February 2020 to spatulate it. The result is that the boat is much faster when reaching and bends less when reaching. bearing, it's a real evolution in terms of speed. "
Several skippers followed suit, such as Luke Berry and Sébastien Audigane. The latter, along with his new partners, Entrepreneurs pour la Planète, has bought the former Aïna from Aymeric Chappellier, which he has just put back in Marseille. "We removed the brion, which tended to brake the boat slightly, to get closer to recent boats," explains the one who will run the Jacques Vabre with François Jambou.
Kito de Pavant also modified the bow of his Tizh 40 Made in Midi, but in a different sense: "At the beginning, we left to do like everyone else, but we had to touch the roof, it was doing a lot of work and We weren't sure it would work. By talking to Guillaume [Verdier, the architect], we came to an agreement on a solution: rather than adding volume, we remove it. " At BE Racing, Louis Burton, for his part, plans to transform the hull of the Tizh 40 from the Saint-Malo team into a scow with a view to Rum 2022, Arthur Hubert told us.
New or used boats, most of them will line up in the championship races in 2021, more than 30 boats are expected in the Transat Jacques Vabre. Before aiming, the following year, for the Route du Rhum, on which the Class40 asked OC Sport Pen Duick, the organizer, to have 70 places (against 53 in 2018)!
https://www.tipandshaft.com - for those that aren't subscribed!
...
BETWEEN NEW AND USED BOATS, THE CLASS40 IN FULL BOOM
With five boats already built since the summer of 2019, around fifteen to come by the Route du Rhum and a second-hand market that is doing well, the Class40 continues to attract skippers and partners. Tip & Shaft takes stock of current and upcoming projects.
As with each edition of the Route du Rhum, the Class40 is currently experiencing strong activity, with a booming construction market. In the wake of Yoann Richomme’s victory in the 2018 edition on a Lombard plan whose shape resembled that of the scows, the “round nose” Class40s arrived in force. Crédit Mutuel, Ian Lipinski's first Max 40 (David Raison plan), won the 2019 Transat Jacques Vabre, while Banque du Léman, the Manuard plan (Mach 40.4) of the Swiss duo Valentin Gautier / Simon Koster, won. on the Normandy Channel Race last September.
This made Aurélien Ducroz, who is expecting his new Crosscall for the end of April, say: "There has been a real architectural break with the scows, if you want to be ambitious and play in front, you don't have much choice." Nicolas Groleau, boss of the JPS yard, from which came the five scows built to date (Crédit Mutuel, Banque du Léman, the Mach 4 E. Leclerc Ville la Grand by Olivier Magré and Redman by Antoine Carpentier as well as the Max40 Project Rescue Ocean by Axel Tréhin), adds: "We find the scow effect already seen in Mini, this design gives such an advantage that those who have sporting ambitions sell their boat to build one."
In all, around twenty new boats will thus leave the site between the two editions of the Route du Rhum, compared to 15 during the previous cycle and 39 between 2010 and 2014. Quite a dynamic in the current context!
New boats for Grassi, Le Roch and Perraut
Two Lift 2s (Lombard plan) are thus expected in the spring: the first built in Australia for Rupert Henry, the second for Aurélien Ducroz (at Grand Largue Composites and V1D2 in Caen). Advertised price: between 556,000 euros and 710,000 euros HT ready to sail. A third specimen for the Rum, built in recyclable materials, will be made official next week, built by Lalou Multi for Keni Piperol.
At JPS, the production schedule is well loaded with three Max 40 and two Mach 4 signed (between 600,000 and 650,000 HT each according to Nicolas Groleau). As for the Reason plans, Volvo of Jonas Gerckens (who will compete in the Transat Jacques Vabre with Benoît Hantzberg) will be launched at the end of April; it will be followed at the end of July by that of Amélie Grassi. The former miner, who is new to the Class40, says: "I tried the Max and the Mach, I found the former to pull a little less, it is easier to use, I felt more comfortable."
Construction of a third Reason plan will begin in August for Matthieu Perraut, another newcomer from the Mini class. "The Class40, in addition to being dynamic and user-friendly, is the ideal medium to continue to progress offshore, which is my goal," says the professional architect. Regarding the Manuard plans, a boat is under construction for Emmanuel Le Roch, formalized soon, a second will be launched immediately for a skipper for the Route du Rhum.
The class opens to new architects
Another well-occupied site at the moment: Structures, from which Serenis Consulting will emerge at the end of April, the very first Pogo S4 (Verdier plan) for Jean Galfione, who will run the Transat Jacques Vabre with Eric Péron. It will be followed this summer by two other copies for François-René Carluer and Emmanuel Hamez, whose priority objective is to run the Route du Rhum. Both are looking to rent their new Class40 for the Jacques Vabre, the second announcing a price of 90,000 euros excluding tax, which it can halve if the renter takes it on board.
For the shipyard based in Combrit, the beginnings of this new series, marketed between 410,000 and 510,000 euros HT (with electronics and pilot, but without the sails which cost between 70,000 and 80,000), are considered very encouraging, as the Confides Erwan Tymen: "Starting a series with three boats already sold is a lot more comfortable for us on the development of parts and on the amortization. And behind that, we are in advanced discussions for two additional boats."
Hitherto concentrated in the hands of the aforementioned shipyards and architects, the Class40 is also open to other designers: Etienne Bertrand and Guillaume Dupont have designed a boat built at Cape Racing Yachts. Jörg Riechers, who works with the South African shipyard, explains: "Two copies have been sold, the first for an enlightened amateur with whom I will run the Transat Jacques Vabre, the second for a professional skipper." Price announced by the German sailor: 450,000 euros excluding VAT, without sails nor electronic.
Finally, another little news is eagerly awaited this year: the Clak 40, designed by VPLP and built by Multiplast, two of which have been ordered by the Italian Andrea Fornaro - who will make the season in doubles with the Russian Igor Goikhberg - and by Nicolas d'Estais, also from the Mini class. "The Class40 is really the logical continuation of the Mini, the boats are fun and the class guarantees a good return on investment for sponsors", explains the latter.
This is also the opinion of Corentin Douguet who should soon unveil his project, also on a new Class40: "I will be on the circuit in 2022. The class is nice, with really fast boats, on which you spend more than time to sail than to do R&D. And that's still relatively cheap: a new Class40 costs ten times less than an Imoca. " Finally, no doubt for a delivery in 2023, Catherine Pourre is also counting, once she has sold her current Mach 3, to start the construction of a boat, she told us.
25 used boats sold in 2020
The sailor, used to the class, should not have too much trouble finding a buyer for her Class40, the second-hand market remaining active: 25 boats have changed hands in 2020. All built before 2019, they are likely to suffer. the arrival of the scows, as Kito de Pavant fears: "This is not necessarily good news in economic terms and because the class has been fairly homogeneous until now. There is a big gap."
In an attempt to limit this gap, some have undertaken major modifications to the bow of their boat. This is the case of Nils Boyer on Le Choix Funéraire: "We were the first to cut the bow in February 2020 to spatulate it. The result is that the boat is much faster when reaching and bends less when reaching. bearing, it's a real evolution in terms of speed. "
Several skippers followed suit, such as Luke Berry and Sébastien Audigane. The latter, along with his new partners, Entrepreneurs pour la Planète, has bought the former Aïna from Aymeric Chappellier, which he has just put back in Marseille. "We removed the brion, which tended to brake the boat slightly, to get closer to recent boats," explains the one who will run the Jacques Vabre with François Jambou.
Kito de Pavant also modified the bow of his Tizh 40 Made in Midi, but in a different sense: "At the beginning, we left to do like everyone else, but we had to touch the roof, it was doing a lot of work and We weren't sure it would work. By talking to Guillaume [Verdier, the architect], we came to an agreement on a solution: rather than adding volume, we remove it. " At BE Racing, Louis Burton, for his part, plans to transform the hull of the Tizh 40 from the Saint-Malo team into a scow with a view to Rum 2022, Arthur Hubert told us.
New or used boats, most of them will line up in the championship races in 2021, more than 30 boats are expected in the Transat Jacques Vabre. Before aiming, the following year, for the Route du Rhum, on which the Class40 asked OC Sport Pen Duick, the organizer, to have 70 places (against 53 in 2018)!
shaggybaxter
Super Anarchist
The biggest difference I noticed between a Class 40 concept and near everything else I've sailed on, is the smiles.
I have raced on faster boats, but none that envoke the same feelings of confidence, exhilaration, happiness and simple fun.
I don't know how else to put it, but for me they just feel like a nice meld of everything I love about sailing. Crack sheets slightly and they are even a joy to sail to windward.
I hope we continue to see more of the concept, I'm a fan.
I have raced on faster boats, but none that envoke the same feelings of confidence, exhilaration, happiness and simple fun.
I don't know how else to put it, but for me they just feel like a nice meld of everything I love about sailing. Crack sheets slightly and they are even a joy to sail to windward.
I hope we continue to see more of the concept, I'm a fan.
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The Race Around opens its doors to solo competitors... Really excited about this having loved the BOC and AA!
https://www.theracearound.com/post/solo-or-double-handed
https://www.theracearound.com/post/solo-or-double-handed
stief
Super Anarchist
Sounds very interesting, especially with GAC Pindar as partner. More and more I find Andrew Pindar behind many projects worth following.
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Check out Axel Tréhin Skipper - he's the proud owner of a new Class40 #162 and has this week been sailing with:
Kevin Escoffier
Thomas Coville
Vincent Riou
AND Nicolas Trousell
From what I gather they were all blown away by the boat (Raison design I think)! Pretty cool ay!
The below is taken from his Facebook page (google translate)
"Can you imagine Neymar, Messi and Mbappé coming to the training of a national player just for the sake of the game and share some professional secrets?
Vincent Riou, Team Sodebo Voile - Thomas Coville, Kevin Escoffier - PRB ... in a few weeks, my # Class40 Project Rescue Ocean had the immense privilege of being helmed by excellent sailors, and I could not be more touched and happy that they wanted to join me to help develop the full speed potential of our new car ...
Sailing is a sport where experience and sensations play a huge role, which is why the values of sharing and transmission are so important. But I am always amazed to see how much they are still present, even after winning the Vendée Globe, being the fastest man around the world, or crisscrossing the globe countless times on the most beautiful and most technical boats. never built ... Quite frankly, I think we would gain a lot by applying this scheme to many other areas of society!
And for the little anecdote, I am very happy to have been able to contribute to this transmission by bringing on board a few very promising young people, including a certain Eliott Coville, who obviously inherited certain paternal talents ..."
Kevin Escoffier
Thomas Coville
Vincent Riou
AND Nicolas Trousell
From what I gather they were all blown away by the boat (Raison design I think)! Pretty cool ay!
The below is taken from his Facebook page (google translate)
"Can you imagine Neymar, Messi and Mbappé coming to the training of a national player just for the sake of the game and share some professional secrets?
Vincent Riou, Team Sodebo Voile - Thomas Coville, Kevin Escoffier - PRB ... in a few weeks, my # Class40 Project Rescue Ocean had the immense privilege of being helmed by excellent sailors, and I could not be more touched and happy that they wanted to join me to help develop the full speed potential of our new car ...
Sailing is a sport where experience and sensations play a huge role, which is why the values of sharing and transmission are so important. But I am always amazed to see how much they are still present, even after winning the Vendée Globe, being the fastest man around the world, or crisscrossing the globe countless times on the most beautiful and most technical boats. never built ... Quite frankly, I think we would gain a lot by applying this scheme to many other areas of society!
And for the little anecdote, I am very happy to have been able to contribute to this transmission by bringing on board a few very promising young people, including a certain Eliott Coville, who obviously inherited certain paternal talents ..."
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Roleur
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Taken from the front page - solo fleet within The Race Around!
https://sailinganarchy.com/2021/03/18/were-keen/
https://sailinganarchy.com/2021/03/18/were-keen/
oysterhead
Member
What (fabric?) is inside the mainsail cradle? Easy to see in top pic and not visible in bottom pic with boom exposed.
Something to reduce chafe/ease drying? Maybe it is just mesh bag material like phifertex?
I just looks like a mesh with webbings for the higher load bits, drainage is important when reefed down!
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New Class40 for Emmanuel Le Roch with Edenred: Mach 40.4.
https://www.edenred.com/fr/dream-team?fbclid=IwAR2EgXVC-lj-75r8ZX6LmavBqBkjnkdORQmzbkmippLOBho4GFbkubIO7yk
https://www.edenred.com/fr/dream-team?fbclid=IwAR2EgXVC-lj-75r8ZX6LmavBqBkjnkdORQmzbkmippLOBho4GFbkubIO7yk
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An initial entry list for the Transat Jacques Vabre is posted:
https://www.transatjacquesvabre.org/fr/skippers/class40
https://www.transatjacquesvabre.org/fr/skippers/class40
WLIS Jibing
Member
Anyone know if Aurelien Ducroz is signing up for the TJV, and if so, on a Class 40? I loved following his ski career, so I look forward to following his sailing adventures too in the future.
