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On Monday evening at approximately 20h20 European time, Laurent Camprubi was sailing solo on our Cape 40 V2, #179, Jeanne off the coast off Portugal doing his 1,000nm Route du Rhum qualification. He triggered his emergency beacon after loosing the keel and capsizing. We are extremely relieved that Laurent was rescued by the maritime safety authorities and has been returned to shore.
The yacht is being towed to shore and we expect it to arrive sometime today. We are currently working with the yacht's team to establish what happened. More will follow.
Histoire des 40 pieds: Jeanne, FRA 179

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Greyhound37 said:
Has a vintage Class 40 ever lost their keel? Asking for a friend
Appears these 3 incidents are fairly new boats.
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Mine is #15 and dry stored ( mostly inside) the last 5 or so years , was planning on having the keel off this winter as a matter of fact !
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Greyhound37

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One change I wish I had on my vintage is the much shorter boom. We are reefing the main in 16 knots of wind plus it takes a team of mules to get it to full hoist
 
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Hi all.
I have been following Class40 for a few years and currently I am looking to buy a second hand one. After next RdR it seems that quite a few will be in the market.

Does anyone can tell what is the performance comparison to a performance cruiser like a Pogo36, for example? Or compared to a JPK1080 or a J boat?

I am looking for performance and fun speed, and not so much interested in comfort, despite a shower in the deck, a toilet and a fridge would nice add-ons to make it more friendly for the few times I expect to bring my wife on the boat.

This summer we chartered a Pogo36 for a week. It was supposed to be a fast cruiser and it was too slow for me. We did 11 knots at some points while surfing, but it was really not representative of the average speed. As soon as wind was below 10kts it was really boring and pointing angles were not great either.

It was my first time with a bigger boat and obviously we didn't extract full potential from the pogo, but still it was far from what I expected.

Coming from ClassA-Foiling is not the best reference, but buying a whole sailboat to sail at 4-6kts is not what I look for.

Thanks for any help.
 
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longy

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You really need to sail on a 40 first. Being longer, it will be a bit faster. But all those boats are wide & flat hull shapes & will suffer (lots of wetted surface) in light air. You might want to look at "Dragon" a first gen hull that's in top nick, and a bit skinnier in general
 
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EnriqueGracia said:
Hi all.
I have been following Class40 for a few years and currently I am looking to buy a second hand one. After next RdR it seems that quite a few will be in the market.

Does anyone can tell what is the performance comparison to a performance cruiser like a Pogo36, for example? Or compared to a JPK1080 or a J boat?

I am looking for performance and fun speed, and not so much interested in comfort, despite a shower in the deck, a toilet and a fridge would nice add-ons to make it more friendly for the few times I expect to bring my wife on the boat.

This summer we chartered a Pogo36 for a week. It was supposed to be a fast cruiser and it was too slow for me. We did 11 knots at some points while surfing, but it was really not representative of the average speed. As soon as wind was below 10kts it was really boring and pointing angles were not great either.

It was my first time with a bigger boat and obviously we didn't extract full potential from the pogo, but still it was far from what I expected.

Coming from ClassA-Foiling is not the best reference, but buying a whole sailboat to sail at 4-6kts is not what I look for.

Thanks for any help.
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Why not look at something like a pogo 12.50 which is, in short-hand, a cruising version of a class 40? The modern class 40s
(including most of the boats that are doing the RdR) are pretty solidly incompatible with adding even the basic comfort amenities. As a benchmark, 144 has a jetboil for a galley, a bucket for a head, and water in 10l jugs only (unless some has to go into the fixed 20l tanks). This is the standard. Weight matters a lot and adding more gear would impact performance.

Most, though not all, of the 40s are optimized for a Route du Rhum course. They are not particularly close-winded, especially in light air, but once the wind breaks 12 and is on or aft of the beam, they take off. You could use the RORC races to compare the performance against other boats such as the JPKs and the J Boats.
 
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longy said:
You really need to sail on a 40 first. Being longer, it will be a bit faster. But all those boats are wide & flat hull shapes & will suffer (lots of wetted surface) in light air. You might want to look at "Dragon" a first gen hull that's in top nick, and a bit skinnier in general
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Yep.
If you want to be fast in light airs then go skinny. A Kerr 40 was much quicker than my 12.50 in light airs. The tradeoff is you need crew as the wind builds. I bought the Pogo because I wanted to be comfortable short handed in heavy airs.
If you want everything, Dragon would tick a lot of boxes.
 
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