All things Class40
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solosailor
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"Power is nothing without control"
GLOBE40 3rd leg starts - Mysailing
FROM THE INDIAN TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN: ANOTHER LENGTHY PASSAGE FOR THE GLOBE40 Today saw the GLOBE40 crews take the start of the 3rd leg of the event;
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"https://www.youtube.com/embed/GCCxfR7a_MA" Leg 2 - arrival of Whiskey Jack
EnriqueGracia
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Thanks for the reply. When you say Dragon you refer to the class or to a specific boat?
Thanks again for the feedback.
EnriqueGracia
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Thanks for the feedback.
I am afraid Pogo 12.50 will be slower than a class 40 even when adding some minimal comforts like a shower outside, a small water tank and a toilet.
EnriqueGracia
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That kind of fast 40s is also in my radar, yes but the need for crew kills those options. I want to be able to sail all alone if needed while the most frequent will be 2-3. One of those faster alternatives with ballasts might do the trick and the only week points would be strong winds where probably class40 defends better (talking here about seamanship, not so much about speed).
Not sure which boat you mean by Dragon. The Dragon I know is class boat, for three with J type hull. Beautiful boat, but I don't think it is the one you refer to.
Thanks again,
Thanks for the feedback.
That kind of fast 40s is also in my radar, yes but the need for crew kills those options. I want to be able to sail all alone if needed while the most frequent will be 2-3. One of those faster alternatives with ballasts might do the trick and the only week points would be strong winds where probably class40 defends better (talking here about seamanship, not so much about speed).
Not sure which boat you mean by Dragon. The Dragon I know is class boat, for three with J type hull. Beautiful boat, but I don't think it is the one you refer to.
Thanks again,
We are refering to a specific Class 40. Custom build, Owen Clarke design
Just checked Facebook, boat has been sold
Early design before the class went low freeboards, so better suited for what you want. Most early C 40 designs should suit you, the production build boats have more of an interior
Early design before the class went low freeboards, so better suited for what you want. Most early C 40 designs should suit you, the production build boats have more of an interior
EnriqueGracia
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Ok, thank you. I'll take a look, for sure.We are refering to a specific Class 40. Custom build, Owen Clarke design
Just checked Facebook, boat has been sold
Early design before the class went low freeboards, so better suited for what you want. Most early C 40 designs should suit you, the production build boats have more of an interior
Owen Clarke Class 40 #157 For Sale – A Vendre : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Class 40 Racer crusier for sale
'La Licorne' #147 : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Class 40 racer cruiser for sale.
Manuard Class 40 #136 For Sale – A Vendre : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Manuard Class 40 for sale
Akilaria Class 40 #131 For Sale – A Vendre : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Class 40 Akilaria for sale
'Obportus IV' #124 : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Class 40 racer cruiser for sale.
https://www.owenclarkedesign.com/class-40-pixel-flyer-112 sold
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www.owenclarkedesign.com
www.owenclarkedesign.com
www.owenclarkedesign.com
The last posted here is the oldest and gets younger up the page
A lot of well set up boats that have been updated through time...
Pogo Class 40 #109 For Sale – A Vendre : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Yacht Design and Naval Architects specialising in high performance racing and cruising yacht designs and naval architecture consultancy
Farr Yacht Design Class 40 #102 Sold : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Yacht Design and Naval Architects specialising in high performance racing and cruising yacht designs and naval architecture consultancy
Tyker Class 40 #98 For Sale – A Vendre : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Tyker Class 40 for sale
'Bolands Mill' #15 : Owen Clarke Design - Yacht Design and Naval Architects
Class 40 racer cruiser for sale.
The last posted here is the oldest and gets younger up the page
A lot of well set up boats that have been updated through time...
38°59'N
Member
That was a fun race to follow...the holes and shifts and the tide
the top 6 taking different courses to each other, to roll the dice on the work up and then downwind and the reach and a short downwind to finish....Perfect thanks I liked the tracker and the geograhical map ...to re enact past trips in the mind and relive the nightmarish tide from a younger age
the top 6 taking different courses to each other, to roll the dice on the work up and then downwind and the reach and a short downwind to finish....Perfect thanks I liked the tracker and the geograhical map ...to re enact past trips in the mind and relive the nightmarish tide from a younger age
LeoV
Super Anarchist
Tip&Shaft talk to Richomme.
You raced in the Route du Rhum on a Lift 1, the precursor of the scows, is this new generation very different? And do you feel that compared to 2018, the level of play has increased?
Yes, the boats have become very powerful, they're really taking off: all last night, we were going at 16 knots in 16 knots of wind on a reach, as soon as there were 20 knots, we went up to 18-19, that's still great to sail at these speeds on such basic boats. They hey are quite hard boats, the movements are very hard due to the very flat surfaces below, there is no cushioning, the slightest wave is transmitted to the boat, the slightest jump off a wave slams, shaking you on the spot, it's quite tiring. And the loads are starting to get heavy, there is a real physical efforts if you want to keep up with the leaders. As for the level of play, yes, it has clearly increased! The intensity of the racing is very close to what you see in Figaro, it's a real challenge to beat the 5-6 skippers who sail really well and are starting to know their boat very well.
You raced in the Route du Rhum on a Lift 1, the precursor of the scows, is this new generation very different? And do you feel that compared to 2018, the level of play has increased?
Yes, the boats have become very powerful, they're really taking off: all last night, we were going at 16 knots in 16 knots of wind on a reach, as soon as there were 20 knots, we went up to 18-19, that's still great to sail at these speeds on such basic boats. They hey are quite hard boats, the movements are very hard due to the very flat surfaces below, there is no cushioning, the slightest wave is transmitted to the boat, the slightest jump off a wave slams, shaking you on the spot, it's quite tiring. And the loads are starting to get heavy, there is a real physical efforts if you want to keep up with the leaders. As for the level of play, yes, it has clearly increased! The intensity of the racing is very close to what you see in Figaro, it's a real challenge to beat the 5-6 skippers who sail really well and are starting to know their boat very well.
I am interested in learning more about what the challenges are in sailing the Class 40 boats? What makes them hard/complex to sail? Assuming usage in fast cruising and some racing. I am looking for a challenge, and wonder what people think of these boats as a way to learn offshore racing (as an eventual goal). What does it take to learn to get to that level of boat? Assuming several years of training on smaller boats, whats a progression for someone who is a quick study? I don't want to beat everyone in a race, just go fast and have fun. These boats look amazing, so inspiring.
When I was posting the boats for sale, I was reminded of when the Kiwi Verdier got to NZd and stopped their race...they were racing twoup but got beat up by the boat....the sea keeping abilities of the less powerful bigger boats in crewed round the world racing was what they were used to...They were not able to progress to the new small and violent 40s...
if I recall right ..."what sea legs,...I was crawling around to stay on the boat.."
if I recall right ..."what sea legs,...I was crawling around to stay on the boat.."
Jacki Chan
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Just had some news from Whiskey Jack on their southern ocean leg. They held 1st for the first while with good weather routing and then wrapped a spin around the forestay just south of Amsterdam Island. They sit in last by 200 miles now having pulling the spin down over 30 hours! catch up time.
Sorry, it's been a while since I updated on our build project... Blame a summer of hectic travel.
The project progresses but it's been too slow. Supply chains have been awful, with prices rising. We lost our work yard and had to adjust locations. Then a hurricane hit the Caribbean, then another... This has all caused challenges in work and supply from which we're still recovering. Because loss of time equals loss of money, my Class 40 project needs to see to some financing... or to sell the shell of this boat and begin a new one... or to sell another custom project to finance the rigging of this one. This is all part of building boats, I know. But, we see light ahead!
Hiccups aside, the construction has gone super well, and I thank everyone for their encouragements. The shell is virtually finished. The hull, deck, and interior reinforcements are all complete. We're just now finishing the installation of the water ballast tanks. We finished the bulb and keel fin. The rudders are under construction. So, in terms of real building, just the rig remains.
Early in the summer, after a somewhat long delay, we received the approval of our designs and construction plans from the Class 40 Association. So, I guess we can say that we're a recognized Class 40 project!
Some images:
Cockpit ready for gear installations. We'd just started the primer coat.
When it started looking a bit like a boat...
I wanted a scow-bow boat, like the new C40s, but with a more spacious, flexible interior, like the older C40s, which is why I custom built instead buying a vintage boat. I think I made the right decision... My long-suffering saint of a wife is withholding judgment...
We constructed a 'trellis frame' mast compression bulkhead instead of using a compression post. Keeps the interior more open.
Our final composite chainplate installation -- this one for the forestay. These composite plates are my favorite 'cool' feature. I geeked out on calculating their tensile strength.
After casting, the lead bulb is maneuvered via hired crane. 1850kgs, if you're interested. Our ballast-to-weight ratio will be around 43%... and then you consider the water ballast... and the huge righting arm of these beamy hulls... and you can understand how Class 40s carry such massive sail plans.
We welded narrow 'stringers' onto our steel keel blade to make the foil extra rigid. We thought extra hard about this fin, and also the keel box, due to the recent spate of keel failures out there. Every little bit helps, I think.
The project progresses but it's been too slow. Supply chains have been awful, with prices rising. We lost our work yard and had to adjust locations. Then a hurricane hit the Caribbean, then another... This has all caused challenges in work and supply from which we're still recovering. Because loss of time equals loss of money, my Class 40 project needs to see to some financing... or to sell the shell of this boat and begin a new one... or to sell another custom project to finance the rigging of this one. This is all part of building boats, I know. But, we see light ahead!
Hiccups aside, the construction has gone super well, and I thank everyone for their encouragements. The shell is virtually finished. The hull, deck, and interior reinforcements are all complete. We're just now finishing the installation of the water ballast tanks. We finished the bulb and keel fin. The rudders are under construction. So, in terms of real building, just the rig remains.
Early in the summer, after a somewhat long delay, we received the approval of our designs and construction plans from the Class 40 Association. So, I guess we can say that we're a recognized Class 40 project!
Some images:
Cockpit ready for gear installations. We'd just started the primer coat.
When it started looking a bit like a boat...
I wanted a scow-bow boat, like the new C40s, but with a more spacious, flexible interior, like the older C40s, which is why I custom built instead buying a vintage boat. I think I made the right decision... My long-suffering saint of a wife is withholding judgment...
We constructed a 'trellis frame' mast compression bulkhead instead of using a compression post. Keeps the interior more open.
Our final composite chainplate installation -- this one for the forestay. These composite plates are my favorite 'cool' feature. I geeked out on calculating their tensile strength.
After casting, the lead bulb is maneuvered via hired crane. 1850kgs, if you're interested. Our ballast-to-weight ratio will be around 43%... and then you consider the water ballast... and the huge righting arm of these beamy hulls... and you can understand how Class 40s carry such massive sail plans.
We welded narrow 'stringers' onto our steel keel blade to make the foil extra rigid. We thought extra hard about this fin, and also the keel box, due to the recent spate of keel failures out there. Every little bit helps, I think.
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