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huey 2

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Trocola

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Thanks Trocola, you posted while I was chasing info.
I though it used a control on the rudder, which now is allowed ? I do not follow it to the point and comma anymore.

Nicomatic skipper could be saying; foils are overrated :)
No worries. I started following minis in your webpage long time ago ;)
 

huey 2

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The Little Aussie Lap 2.0

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Back out and sending it with my pink Evolution Sails A3 spinnaker. The mini Transat has the largest bowsprit to boat ratio of any offshore boat, with a 3.5 meter spinnaker pole against the little 6.5 meter boat. This is close to the length of many of the 100fter bowsprits, with an average length of 4.5 meters. To put it in perspective, if the mini was scaled up to the length of a 100fter, she would bear a bowsprit length of over 17 meters or 55ft.
When sailing solo, spinnakers do not go up over 17 knots, as the boat shares a similar temperament to an 18ft skiff, and the risks are too great to push the structure and risk breaking the mast or capsizing the boat. In my wardrobe, I carry an A2+ (large spinnaker) and A3 (medium spinnaker) which were built by Caedric at Evolution. These spinnakers are my secret weapon in boosting speed in my attempt to break the around Australia record. On downwind days, I can use these spinnakers to maintain an average speed between 15 knots and 17 knots - a large boost over the average speed of 4.6 knots I must maintain to break the record.
Unfortunately as my electronics are currently completely unusable due to damage caused during my last attempt, I am training “in the dark” so to speak. I am out training on most days, with all off days used to further build the boat’s systems to get ready for my next attempt. I am limited however from doing multiple day offshore training with no electronics. I am currently attempting to raise money to get me back on track with my training, and if you would like to contribute I would love your help to achieve my dream!
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The Little Aussie Lap 2.0

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Back out and sending it with my pink Evolution Sails A3 spinnaker. The mini Transat has the largest bowsprit to boat ratio of any offshore boat, with a 3.5 meter spinnaker pole against the little 6.5 meter boat. This is close to the length of many of the 100fter bowsprits, with an average length of 4.5 meters. To put it in perspective, if the mini was scaled up to the length of a 100fter, she would bear a bowsprit length of over 17 meters or 55ft.
When sailing solo, spinnakers do not go up over 17 knots, as the boat shares a similar temperament to an 18ft skiff, and the risks are too great to push the structure and risk breaking the mast or capsizing the boat. In my wardrobe, I carry an A2+ (large spinnaker) and A3 (medium spinnaker) which were built by Caedric at Evolution. These spinnakers are my secret weapon in boosting speed in my attempt to break the around Australia record. On downwind days, I can use these spinnakers to maintain an average speed between 15 knots and 17 knots - a large boost over the average speed of 4.6 knots I must maintain to break the record.
Unfortunately as my electronics are currently completely unusable due to damage caused during my last attempt, I am training “in the dark” so to speak. I am out training on most days, with all off days used to further build the boat’s systems to get ready for my next attempt. I am limited however from doing multiple day offshore training with no electronics. I am currently attempting to raise money to get me back on track with my training, and if you would like to contribute I would love your help to achieve my dream!


 
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r.finn

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"On downwind days, I can use these spinnakers to maintain an average speed between 15 knots and 17 knots - a large boost over the average speed of 4.6 knots I must maintain to break the record" I understand the tendency to fluff things for a press release, but this is SA. #176 isn't a 300 mile a day boat, let alone a 380 miler! However, best of luck to them.
 

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I think the current solo record stands at just under 39 days, or ~7knot ave. The mono record is about 42 days @ ~6.5knots (maths was never my strong point, so check those figures). I'm not sure of the record he's aiming for.
 

Trevor B

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It’s funny, when I first saw that Nicomatic was winning most of the races without daggerboards/foils, my first thought was wondering why they bothered with the canting keel? Now I see that they want to fly!

Basically my thought was how fast around a course would a full carbon fixed keel scow be? The results of the Series boats give a hint that it would be pretty bloody fast.

You get a lighter boat with a bigger and lighter rig with more draft…..hmm. And the Series boats just aren’t that far behind.

I’m sure the foiling boat would zoom by in flat water during the day while being steered by someone paying attention, but there isn’t much of that specific state while racing across the ocean by yourself.
 
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LeoV

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Cost of making a keel canting is not that high, axle, ropes, blocks, water box, gaitor.
Less then you pay for a new jib.

Francois Lucas had a design for a plywood fixed keel proto. Did sell plans and some started building. But did not see them on the race course.

Was 2013 not the MT with a cancelled stage, and 714 just was past the cancel point and became a bit lucky in position for the second leg ?
 

r.finn

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It’s funny, when I first saw that Nicomatic was winning most of the races without daggerboards/foils, my first thought was wondering why they bothered with the canting keel? Now I see that they want to fly!

Basically my thought was how fast around a course would a full carbon fixed keel scow be? The results of the Series boats give a hint that it would be pretty bloody fast.

You get a lighter boat with a bigger and lighter rig with more draft…..hmm. And the Series boats just aren’t that far behind.

I’m sure the foiling boat would zoom by in flat water during the day while being steered by someone paying attention, but there isn’t much of that specific state while racing across the ocean by yourself.
The foiler mini thing will eventually work as long as they can get them close to full flight while vmg running. If the course went to Brazil still, it would likely dominate as is. The question I have for all foils heading to the Caribbean is how much time do they spend clearing out Sargassum? Is it as big of a problem as it seems like it would be? Also, what off the shelf autopilot can keep a mini flying?
 

JonRowe

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Also, what off the shelf autopilot can keep a mini flying?
Thats one of the big questions with the foiling minis, how much can they actually foil for long periods of time, but as far as I know protos don't have restricted electronics (the non foiling series have that though) so it doesn't have to be off the shelf, and even if it did, there would be the Mad!nTec MadBrain (although its like 5x the price of the NKE Gyropilot 3)
 
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