And then there was one...

Somebody Else

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They ruined the race by kissing the butts of the money countries and that was bad enough.

Now only one boat left fully intact. I guess Telefonica is still in the hunt and gaining on Puma by leaps and bounds, sailing over a knot faster as I type this. But Tele has probs too, right?

As a buddy of mine said this morning: "The way things are turning out you would have had a pretty good chance of winning this edition of the race if you had entered a Swan 65, not to mention saving a truckload of $$$$!!"

 

gusmus

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I was always of the opinion that the Whitbread/Volvo should be in one designs built to a brick shithouse standard and that the Americas Cup should be the place for off the wall experimentism. My opinions still hold. For a long distance against all the odds race let the crews win and not the speculating designer who cuts corners in losing a few pounds here and there to gain that extra knot in conditions the boat is unlikely to see. The AC is the place for experiments where. if they go wrong, see the crews safe and with backup. Those same AC innovations will filter down to the new generations of ocean racers without the need to put crews lives at any more risk than they already have by simply participating in such a race as the VOR

 

johnnysaint

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I was always of the opinion that the Whitbread/Volvo should be in one designs built to a brick shithouse standard and that the Americas Cup should be the place for off the wall experimentism. My opinions still hold. For a long distance against all the odds race let the crews win and not the speculating designer who cuts corners in losing a few pounds here and there to gain that extra knot in conditions the boat is unlikely to see. The AC is the place for experiments where. if they go wrong, see the crews safe and with backup. Those same AC innovations will filter down to the new generations of ocean racers without the need to put crews lives at any more risk than they already have by simply participating in such a race as the VOR
+1

 

trt131

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You guys are idiots. The old way is the best way attitude. With your thinking we would still be driving around in horse and buggys. This is a balls to wall race in hard conditions and stuff breaks. They are professional crews and know how to manage risk and that includes doing the right thing when the boat breaks. Look at the milages the boats are doing, these distances would have been considered multi-hull speeds not too long ago.

Its an ocean race, the fastest boat wins, it is not a match race in one designs.

 
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narecet

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I was always of the opinion that the Whitbread/Volvo should be in one designs built to a brick shithouse standard and that the Americas Cup should be the place for off the wall experimentism. My opinions still hold. For a long distance against all the odds race let the crews win and not the speculating designer who cuts corners in losing a few pounds here and there to gain that extra knot in conditions the boat is unlikely to see. The AC is the place for experiments where. if they go wrong, see the crews safe and with backup. Those same AC innovations will filter down to the new generations of ocean racers without the need to put crews lives at any more risk than they already have by simply participating in such a race as the VOR
Yes, the current situation is not working so well, obviously.

Why not next time have Juan K use his best knowledge learned thus far but with say a 10% heavier weight requirement pretty much everywhere except ballast, and possibly reduce ballast by that same amount, as a one-design.

 
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Somebody Else

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I was always of the opinion that the Whitbread/Volvo should be in one designs built to a brick shithouse standard
Oh? Like this?

http://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/

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johnnysaint

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You guys are idiots. The old way is the best way attitude. With your thinking we would still be driving around in horse and buggys. This is a balls to wall race in hard conditions and stuff breaks. They are professional crews and know how to manage risk and that includes doing the right thing when the boat breaks. Look at the milages the boats are doing, these distances would have been considered multi-hull speeds not too long ago.

Its an ocean race, the fastest boat wins, it is not a match race in one designs.
And what will be your response when a boat catastrophicly breaks in the middle of nowhere and the crew is lost? Fucking idiot.

No matter how professional they might be they can't put back together a boat that snaps in half suddenly.

Have you ever been out in the ocean?

edit .... One thing to remember about ocean racing you fool. You can't win if you can't finish.

 
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left hook

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So if Groupama continues on, isn't it the only boat that has done every leg under its own keel?
Tele has also (so far) finished every leg without needing to be loaded onto a ship (not counting the foray to AD).

 

Car Ramrod

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HEY EVERYBODY!!! LETS ALL MAKE OUR OWN THREADS ABOUT THE WAY THE VOR IS GOING IN ORDER TO RESTATE THE SAME FUCKING POINT THAT WE'RE ALL MAKING!!!!!!

 

But actually don't. You people are rediculous. 6 threads in one afternoon about the same goddamn mast falling down? We get it, it's silly that the Volvo boats are breaking. Quit spamming the goddamn forums, switch to decaf, take a valium and cool your fucking jets. All of you are worse attention whores than the next. It's amazing that each of you narcissistic nimrods was able to blatantly ignore the plethora of other VERY obvious discussions about the same g-damn topic while repeating the same tired line (about cutting edge yacht design and round the world racing - something for which you could not possibly have any true comprehension) that's been repeated over and over since the race started. The whole situation here on SA has forced me to lose all faith in the human race. May god have mercy on your souls.

Fucking stop it or I'll be forced to put you into a prison cell with Tiny who's 6 foot 9, weighs 415 pounds and is looking for a new wife after his previous one was granted parole.

 

cynophobe

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HEY EVERYBODY!!! LETS ALL MAKE OUR OWN THREADS ABOUT THE WAY THE VOR IS GOING IN ORDER TO RESTATE THE SAME FUCKING POINT THAT WE'RE ALL MAKING!!!!!!

 

But actually don't. You people are rediculous. 6 threads in one afternoon about the same goddamn mast falling down? We get it, it's silly that the Volvo boats are breaking. Quit spamming the goddamn forums, switch to decaf, take a valium and cool your fucking jets. All of you are worse attention whores than the next. It's amazing that each of you narcissistic nimrods was able to blatantly ignore the plethora of other VERY obvious discussions about the same g-damn topic while repeating the same tired line (about cutting edge yacht design and round the world racing - something for which you could not possibly have any true comprehension) that's been repeated over and over since the race started. The whole situation here on SA has forced me to lose all faith in the human race. May god have mercy on your souls.

Fucking stop it or I'll be forced to put you into a prison cell with Tiny who's 6 foot 9, weighs 415 pounds and is looking for a new wife after his previous one was granted parole.

Are you Dorags stupider brother/sister ho?

 




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