While I agree and concur with the principle you are talking about, typically with airliners "run aground" hundreds of people die...When a containership runs aground, typically there are no fatalities. This is not meant, in anyway, to excuse the exceedingly poor seamanship the pilot exhibited, and he should loose he license and qualification to pilot...at least for some period of time.
another evergreen containership runs aground, this time in Chesapeake bay near Baltimore
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Foreverslow
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No break given. We all know the saying "You had just ONE job to do.."
And there are instances of loss of life due to pilot fuckups. Skyway bridge disaster in Tampa killed 35.
The one good aspect is the US gov was quick and open on this.
Remember Egyptian officials holding Ever Grand responsible when everything points to their pilot screwing up while shaking down the boat for smokes.
Where is that report? It happened a year earlier and nothing but crickets.
Difference between a 1st and 3rd world country
Pertinacious Tom
Importunate Member
Err-worthy might have been a better boat name.
Tin Kicker
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Pertinacious Tom
Importunate Member
If you're asking about landing gear up, I'm still on the "them who will" list.Them that has and them who will?
And likely to remain that way since I don't fly any more.
kent_island_sailor
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You hire a pilot because they are trained professional who do NOT go wandering out of the channel while bitching on the cell. I can do that myself, no need to pay for it!Them that has and them who will?
silent bob
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Ship Captain Surrenders License, Agrees To Never Seek One Again
The captain of the cargo vessel Ever Forward, the vessel that had been stuck in the Chesapeake Bay in 2022, has given up the pilotage license in Maryland and has reportedly agreed to never seek one again, per a consent decree. The captain of the cargo vessel Ever Forward, the vessel that had...
www.marineinsight.com
Talchotali
Capt. Marvel's Wise Friend
Consent decree:
Also, a new phone policy for pilots:
www.wmar2news.com
$676K fine for Evergreen:
www.wmar2news.com
Also, a new phone policy for pilots:
New phone policies for Maryland ship pilots following Ever Forward grounding
Fallout continues after an investigative report revealed the pilot of the Ever Forward ship had been using his phone leading up to its month-long grounding on the Chesapeake Bay.
www.wmar2news.com
$676K fine for Evergreen:
Ever Forward owner to pay $676,000 for oyster bar restoration in Chesapeake Bay
The Board of Public Works voted Wednesday to require the owner of the Ever Forward to pay $676,000 toward enhancing oyster bars.
www.wmar2news.com
nolatom
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Ship Captain Surrenders License, Agrees To Never Seek One Again
The captain of the cargo vessel Ever Forward, the vessel that had been stuck in the Chesapeake Bay in 2022, has given up the pilotage license in Maryland and has reportedly agreed to never seek one again, per a consent decree. The captain of the cargo vessel Ever Forward, the vessel that had...
An outfit calling itself “Marine Insight” doesn’t know the difference between a ship Captain, and the compulsory local Pilot?
The pilot let his cellphone completely distract him from a necessary course change. He’s the one being canned.
garland823
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Pretty rich for the state to mandate the ship take on a pilot from the state's pilot association, and then demand $676k from the ship's owner when the state's pilot runs the ship aground.
kent_island_sailor
Super Anarchist
I hadn't thought of that.
1. Require the hiring of pilots.
2. Supply stupid pilots.
3. Fine ships for running aground due to step 2.
4. Profit!
nolatom
Super Anarchist
Kid kills parents, demands alms because he's now an orphan.
Remind me to skip Maryland as a vacation spot.
Remind me to skip Maryland as a vacation spot.
kent_island_sailor
Super Anarchist
You planning on running a ship aground while you are here?
4ktsb
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Cover your azz bureaucracy, that's just how they roll.
Tacoma Mud Flats
Have star, will steer by
Mitigation plan for Ever Forward grounding
Said report:
"...The M/V Ever Forward grounded in legal charted oyster bar NOB 4-2. Whether mitigation occurs for this intrusion is to be determined by the various agencies involved..."
"...The U.S. Coast Guard issued its report on the grounding citing the lack of attention by the ship’s pilot who they reported was using a cellphone and texting when the ship missed a critical turn on its route in the Chesapeake Bay. They also called for better training by Evergreen and other shipping companies of their bridge crews citing that the team on the bridge was aware that the ship missed the turn but did not directly alert the pilot..."
"...citing that the team on the bridge was aware that the ship missed the turn but did not directly alert the pilot..." -- For that finding, likely Evergreen's insurance company copped a deal and $677K was an acceptable payout.
