Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

Ed Lada

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This guy is interesting, he freely admits he doesn't know much about boats.  Mostly he makes it up as he goes along.  I have no idea if plans exist anywhere but in his head.  He is persistent and patient though!  He is calling it the SV Rusty Junk, although I thing SV Bumpy Lump would work too.

I'm pretty sure his guiding principle is "Don't force it, get a bigger hammer."

SV Rusty Junk

SV RJ photo.jpg

 
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Windward

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Watched these... 

I think it is great...  Will it work?  Who knows.

At least he seems to know exactly what it is/isn't.

Has not studied 10,000 designs.  Designs studied = 0

Have at it, have fun, and best of luck!

 

Fah Kiew Tu

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That boat-ish shaped thing is a total disaster. I've watched his videos and I cringe at what he's doing.

I didn't think it possible but he makes Brent Swain's 'design' skills and building quality standards look good.

I've actually built a steel boat so I have some clues about framing, welding, weld induced distortion etc etc. And I was bright enough to not even attempt to 'design' my own boat.

FKT

 

Windward

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Yikes! I feel sorry for the guy. 
Why?

He seems like a "figure it out" sort, and seems to have overcome a number of obstacles.  Yes yes... haven't we all...

I applaud the fact that he is using what he has and making do.   Basically 6 tools are all he needs.  Welder,  come-alongs, floor jack ,grinder, engine hoist and a paintbrush. 

Will be do his cruise?  I bet he will.

Getting that boat to the water will be interesting.

So much more mentally sorted out than Hotrod.  (that is not setting the bar high, I realize.)

I'm hoping he puts in his racecar engine into the boat.

Squashing dreams does not a good SA thread make.

 

Fah Kiew Tu

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Why?

He seems like a "figure it out" sort, and seems to have overcome a number of obstacles.  Yes yes... haven't we all...

I applaud the fact that he is using what he has and making do.   Basically 6 tools are all he needs.  Welder,  come-alongs, floor jack ,grinder, engine hoist and a paintbrush. 

Will be do his cruise?  I bet he will.

Getting that boat to the water will be interesting.

So much more mentally sorted out than Hotrod.  (that is not setting the bar high, I realize.)

I'm hoping he puts in his racecar engine into the boat.

Squashing dreams does not a good SA thread make.
I've deliberately not added any comments to his youtube videos so as not to come across negative to him.

Nonetheless it's an abortion in the making. He's putting a lot of time & effort into something that will look terrible and likely sail even worse. Really he should have read a few books before he started. Better yet bought a set of plans.

Look at those transverse frames he cut out so painfully with an angle grinder. They're woefully inadequate and then he fully welded them both sides to the hull plate, getting a ton of distortion.

It'll be interesting to watch along as he single-handedly reinvents the wheel.

FKT

 

RKoch

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Why?

He seems like a "figure it out" sort, and seems to have overcome a number of obstacles.  Yes yes... haven't we all...

I applaud the fact that he is using what he has and making do.   Basically 6 tools are all he needs.  Welder,  come-alongs, floor jack ,grinder, engine hoist and a paintbrush. 

Will be do his cruise?  I bet he will.

Getting that boat to the water will be interesting.

So much more mentally sorted out than Hotrod.  (that is not setting the bar high, I realize.)

I'm hoping he puts in his racecar engine into the boat.

Squashing dreams does not a good SA thread make.
Because I agree with FKT. It's an utter abortion. Seems like a nice guy, and I do admire his "gitterdone" spirit, but he doesn't have the foggiest clue as to what he's doing. Big case of Dunning-Krueger. The boat is going to sail like crap, it's woefully (even dangerously) under-engineered, and it looks like absolute shit. After all his effort and expense, he's going to end up with an unsailable  and unsellable pile of scrap metal. It's barely one step removed from HotRod's Flyin' Hawaiian. Hopefully no one dies.

 
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lasal

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It's beyond terrible, but his crazyness doesn't seem to be directed outward, it's focused on that boat-like steel sculpture in his driveway. Perfect. Actually, he doesn't seem crazy, more like a farmer who decides to build his own airplane from ideas he's had but never written down. Yeah. . . maybe a little crazy.

If he finds crew, I would recommend a tetanus shot. Same suggestion for his YouTube viewers, but I'm not a doctor.

As far as his "boat", what the hell is wrong with frames and panel construction, especially for a backyard build? This guy shares BS's steel-monocoque backyard wet dream, and it's gross. It's also lesson that if you want to sculpt a boat instead of designing one, you better be a good artist. Maybe make a model out of a coffee can first. I've seen homeless guys create far more sophisticated contraptions to haul their recycling finds.

When Frank Gehry wanted to get creative building a boat, he bought a generic Frers hull and perforated it with some interesting deck lights and chose a few attractive throw pillows for the salon. This guy is really going for it, and I wish him well.

 
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Ed Lada

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Why?

He seems like a "figure it out" sort, and seems to have overcome a number of obstacles.  Yes yes... haven't we all...

I applaud the fact that he is using what he has and making do.   Basically 6 tools are all he needs.  Welder,  come-alongs, floor jack ,grinder, engine hoist and a paintbrush. 

Will be do his cruise?  I bet he will.

Getting that boat to the water will be interesting.

So much more mentally sorted out than Hotrod.  (that is not setting the bar high, I realize.)

I'm hoping he puts in his racecar engine into the boat.

Squashing dreams does not a good SA thread make.
Correction, 7 items.  You forgot the hammer. A BIG hammer. His motto is; "If it doesn't fit, beat the shit out it."  Another guiding principle appears to be; "It doesn't have to be pretty, it just has to float."

 

RKoch

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It's beyond terrible, but his crazyness doesn't seem to be directed outward, it's focused on that boat-like steel sculpture in his driveway. Perfect. Actually, he doesn't seem crazy, more like a farmer who decides to build his own airplane from ideas he's had but never written down. Yeah. . . maybe a little crazy.

If he finds crew, I would recommend a tetanus shot and a cyanide pill. Same suggestion for his YouTube viewers, but I'm not a doctor.

As far as his "boat", what the hell is wrong with frames and panel construction, especially for a backyard build? This guy shares BS's steel-monocoque backyard wet dream, and it's gross. It's also lesson that if you want to sculpt a boat instead of designing one, you better be a good artist. Maybe make a model out of a coffee can first. I've seen homeless guys create far more sophisticated contraptions to haul their recycling finds.

When Frank Gehry wanted to get creative building a boat, he bought a generic Frers hull and perforated it with some interesting deck lights and chose a few attractive throw pillows for the salon. This guy is really going for it, and I wish him well.
The problem is he's working from no plans whatsoever. There's no weight calculations, no stability calculations, no structural calculations. The frames are cut from the same thin steel as the hull plating. Only 1" in depth. As soon as the boat heels, the keel (woefully under-engineered itself) is going to twist the bottom of the hull, if it even manages to stay on. Haven't yet seen the chain plates or structure supporting rig yet, but a safe assumption they'll also be woefully  under-engineered. The hull isn't a developed surface that the steel plating will easily bend around. Thus the big hammer and all the lumps and dents. Pretty likely the boat is grossly as symmetrical, too. He doesn't know how to build a non-developed surface in steel. In short, he's not building a functional boat, he's building a big ugly piece of lawn art. If he somehow manages to launch it, hope he's carrying no innocent passengers....it's a death trap.

 

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