Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

Jud - s/v Sputnik

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Couple friends of mine built a custom Ed Burnett carvel planked double ender. Really great work on a gorgeously shaped hull. Not my cup of tea at all, I like metal boats myself, but I appreciate fine work regardless of the medium.

I'm afraid that I have no respect for this man though. There are a lot of books out there, there are a lot of proven free designs, licenses and supported designs are dirt cheap compared to the actual building cost. If you want to build a boat, it's the height of arrogance and (misplaced) certainty in your own abilities to just start hacking materials together as you go and then using a bigger hammer to make the edges fit without even attempting to do ANY research before you start.

FKT
Absolutely - I have a house, one of whose previous owners decided he/she knew how to renovate.  Awful work!

I do not understand someone with zero experience who thinks they can (or who wants) to design and build a boat...when there are so many good boats out there.  And if you have the money, hire a designer/builder.  But the DIY spirit dies hard ) sometimes kills the creation :) )

 
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lakeneuch

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I like how there is no cockpit. Once the back is on it will be decided if he lives in the boat or on the boat. I guess there will be no way in or out the boat. Maybe a hammer.

 

Foiling Optimist

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I was thinking about Zeyang when I was writing about Boatbuilder Gustav above. Sailing the Farm was a great project not least because it got done and went sailing but a lot of (young women) learned some great skills in machining and fabricating.  The continued involvement of sane women in projects clearly correlates with, and maybe in some cases causes, project success. 

 

blunderfull

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This thing looks like a Disney Land ride.  Maybe that’s the plan from the jump?  

Prolly then just wanted to see how much blubbering he could start on SA for laughs.

Guy at workshop is installing an “Autonymous Drive” unit on his top-fuel dragtster.  The big tire,  200+ mph long sled with big fat rear tires.  Shits/giggles time with that one.

 

fastyacht

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From his video dated Dec 31, 2017:

"So far I've spent about 800 hours.  If I spent twice that amount of time, I could make a really beautiful boat"

"I hope to cruise for about 5 years.  See the world".
Too bad he didn't look into getting good plans. He could have had a thing of beauty in 800 hours...

 

Coenvanwyk

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I find this thread fascinating. I have been reading Sailing Anarchy for years, but this prompted me to register. I thjought SA was about getting away from the humdrum, living your dream, doing the unconventional, and not conforming, above not to strict conventions. Is that what you read in the comments?

I look forward to following this voyage of discovery, despite many conformists' disapproval. 

 

Ishmael

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I find this thread fascinating. I have been reading Sailing Anarchy for years, but this prompted me to register. I thjought SA was about getting away from the humdrum, living your dream, doing the unconventional, and not conforming, above not to strict conventions. Is that what you read in the comments?

I look forward to following this voyage of discovery, despite many conformists' disapproval. 
It's one thing to be nonconformist, it's quite another to ignore basic truths found through hundreds of years of boat design.

 

Rasputin22

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I find this thread fascinating. I have been reading Sailing Anarchy for years, but this prompted me to register. I thjought SA was about getting away from the humdrum, living your dream, doing the unconventional, and not conforming, above not to strict conventions. Is that what you read in the comments?

I look forward to following this voyage of discovery, despite many conformists' disapproval. 
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Sail4beer

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I find this thread fascinating. I have been reading Sailing Anarchy for years, but this prompted me to register. I thjought SA was about getting away from the humdrum, living your dream, doing the unconventional, and not conforming, above not to strict conventions. Is that what you read in the comments?

I look forward to following this voyage of discovery, despite many conformists' disapproval. 


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fastyacht

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I find this thread fascinating. I have been reading Sailing Anarchy for years, but this prompted me to register. I thjought SA was about getting away from the humdrum, living your dream, doing the unconventional, and not conforming, above not to strict conventions. Is that what you read in the comments?

I look forward to following this voyage of discovery, despite many conformists' disapproval. 
The problem is that there are actually professional boatbulders and naval architects commenting here...
...we didn't make careers in this business by being fools with a torch.

The guy is interesting, and clever. He is no dummy. He's built race cars for god's sakes. He likes a good challenge. But he didn't do much research. In fact pretty much none as far as I can tell.
Fundamentally, he is reinventing the wheel, rather than using his noggin to develop something new, novel, or unique.

 

lasal

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I find this thread fascinating. I have been reading Sailing Anarchy for years, but this prompted me to register. I thjought SA was about getting away from the humdrum, living your dream, doing the unconventional, and not conforming, above not to strict conventions. Is that what you read in the comments?

I look forward to following this voyage of discovery, despite many conformists' disapproval. 
Discussing the merits and faults of something isn't blanket disapproval, it's critique. You seem to want blanket approval. The guy who is upset about the Girl Goes Sailing in Hot Place thread wants the same thing, blanket approval. The solution is for you blanket approval types is to start your own threads and write strictly glowing accolades. Use your analytical skills for creating new ways to say "you go girl" since you reject applying them to 'voyages of discovery'.

By making his project public this builder is inviting criticism. The merit I see in it is that it looks like the guy is enjoying himself without obnoxious axe grinding. The faults I see are purely technical around the design and engineering that was skipped while making a mess out on the driveway. I do hope he succeeds in sailing around in that turd. The good news is that he has the reserve buoyancy to add a lot of structure. The bad news is the plate thickness combined with endless miles of welds might not handle it.

 

Fah Kiew Tu

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Discussing the merits and faults of something isn't blanket disapproval, it's critique. You seem to want blanket approval. The guy who is upset about the Girl Goes Sailing in Hot Place thread wants the same thing, blanket approval. The solution is for you blanket approval types is to start your own threads and write strictly glowing accolades. Use your analytical skills for creating new ways to say "you go girl" since you reject applying them to 'voyages of discovery'.

By making his project public this builder is inviting criticism. The merit I see in it is that it looks like the guy is enjoying himself without obnoxious axe grinding. The faults I see are purely technical around the design and engineering that was skipped while making a mess out on the driveway. I do hope he succeeds in sailing around in that turd. The good news is that he has the reserve buoyancy to add a lot of structure. The bad news is the plate thickness combined with endless miles of welds might not handle it.
And it's going to look like a weak POS no matter what he does to it.....

FKT

 
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