Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

Ed Lada

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It's one thing to be nonconformist, it's quite another to ignore basic truths found through hundreds of years of boat design.


It's one thing to be a non-conformist and it's quite another to simply be a fool.
Indeed, there is that.

I admire his spirit but there are limits.  That thing isn't going to even float well, let alone sail.  You can build a house in almost any way and it will at least be shelter. A boat is a little more complex if you actually intend to use it on the water.

 

Fah Kiew Tu

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I rather see blanket disapproval. 
It's sad to see a lot of effort and time go into something that's going to be a complete failure at its intended task. I couldn't design a rowing boat and I know it; the fact that I've successfully designed & built other things isn't any sort of guarantee I could do the same with a boat. Thinking you can just 'wing' a sailboat without any knowledge of required structure, shape and in this case steel sections isn't a good thing, it's somewhere between overweening arrogance and idiocy.

So yes, I do disapprove. I don't care a lot because I doubt the thing will ever actually get wet but it's a real shame to see that much effort wasted when buying a set of plans or studying basic boat design and *then* starting a build likely would have led to a successful result. Even a BS 36 would turn out better than this.

FKT

 

alphafb552

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What we're saying basically is that if you have at least a minimum of experience with boats, and in particular sailing boats meant to cross oceans, there really is no room for improvisation as far as basic design and structure is concerned. That is not an opinion, that is fact.

So it's a bit of a shame to see people spend a lot effort on such projects without doing their homework first.

At least this guy seems to be having some fun without taking himself too seriously...

 

monsoon

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I rather see blanket disapproval. 
Yes, which is difficult to achieve. Especially here. Could be two reasons for this state of affairs. 1. We're all hide bound traditionalists intent on quashing anything new and innovative and hopefully destroying the human sprit while we're at it. 2. The 'design' and its construction are so awful that anyone with a moment's experience of moving a boat about on the water can see just how bad that thing is.

 

Ed Lada

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The latest episode is out. Words fail me - you have to see it for yourself.

FKT
It was pretty amazing indeed.  I thought the guy knew something about engines, I guess he built a race car, but to even think about putting an air cooled engine inside a metal boat (or inside any boat)?????  And his interior strengthening of the hull looks a little, um, inadequate.  I liked the one comment on the video, some guy asked something to the effect of how deep would his submarine be able to go.

 

shaggy

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Absolutely - I have a house, one of whose previous owners decided he/she knew how to renovate.  Awful work!

I do not understand someone with zero experience who thinks they can (or who wants) to design and build a boat...when there are so many good boats out there.  And if you have the money, hire a designer/builder.  But the DIY spirit dies hard ) sometimes kills the creation :) )
This is why I laugh at all these shows that follow the DIY flippers.  There is no way in hell I would buy a house that was flipped by an amateur just to make a few bucks.  They are funny to watch though.  

 

alphafb552

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This is fabulous: the guy is building a traditional composite hull - except for the fact he's putting the wood on the inside of a metal skin!

He even seems to be thinking about including a keelson inside the hull

Once the wooden frames on the inside are all properly tied together, the hull might actually have some strength to it? :blink:

 

Ishmael

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Any bets on how far we are away from launch day?
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Lark

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I like the electric bike in episode 11.

Did he say in episode 12, 3:30 mark that he’s using aluminum channel to mate the wood frames to the steel frames?    :eek:

 

Fah Kiew Tu

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I like the electric bike in episode 11.

Did he say in episode 12, 3:30 mark that he’s using aluminum channel to mate the wood frames to the steel frames?    :eek:
Yeah. As I said, words fail me.

I'd be wondering if the whole thing wasn't just an elaborate internet windup if I hadn't seen the amount of work he's putting in. 1/100th of that time actually thinking would have been good.

Let's see - I'll weld in pissy undersized frames (thereby introducing truly impressive distortion) then attach structural wooden stiffeners using aluminium channel - *or* I could have actually made the frames the proper dimension in the first place - what *shall* I do........

FKT

 

Ishmael

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Yeah. As I said, words fail me.

I'd be wondering if the whole thing wasn't just an elaborate internet windup if I hadn't seen the amount of work he's putting in. 1/100th of that time actually thinking would have been good.

Let's see - I'll weld in pissy undersized frames (thereby introducing truly impressive distortion) then attach structural wooden stiffeners using aluminium channel - *or* I could have actually made the frames the proper dimension in the first place - what *shall* I do........

FKT
The next step will be fiberglassing the hull from the inside and bonding in carbon ring frames.

 

eric1207

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  Buying 100 8 foot 2x4s then cutting them into 5' pieces.  Why oh why did he not think to buy 50 10 footers?  I was willing to cut him him some slack for following his goofy dream but now he's into deforestation.

 


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