Arrest DeSantis and Abbott: It's a federal crime to knowingly transport undocumented persons across state lines.

El Borracho

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Seems that the immigrants from Venezuela have dollars when the flee. The US airlines could capture that money. Fly them directly from Venezuela to the US. It is the humanitarian thing to do. They will arrive in much better shape. Bonus: Reduces inflation while boosting production.

(Unless my assumption that 8 hours on an airline is better than 8 weeks in a caravan to Texas is false.)
 

Stingray~

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Seems that the immigrants from Venezuela have dollars when the flee. The US airlines could capture that money. Fly them directly from Venezuela to the US. It is the humanitarian thing to do. They will arrive in much better shape. Bonus: Reduces inflation while boosting production.

(Unless my assumption that 8 hours on an airline is better than 8 weeks in a caravan to Texas is false.)
There used to be an immigration/asylum application facility in Venezuela so they could apply there, before trying that horrible journey over land and then applying here.
 

Raz'r

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I've got the facts. You're the one with nothing.
You’ve got bullshit, I’ll give you that. My facts are from the CBP, yours seem to come from your ass, or Tuckers. All the data points to about 100k accepted for Asylum processing, of which a % will receive asylum. Not a large % either.
 

Dog 2.0

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You’ve got bullshit, I’ll give you that. My facts are from the CBP, yours seem to come from your ass, or Tuckers. All the data points to about 100k accepted for Asylum processing, of which a % will receive asylum. Not a large % either.
Your problem is not your source, it's your failure to understand it. Your claim all 2,000,000 apprehended illegally entering the country will be deported, is patently false.
 

Raz'r

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Your problem is not your source, it's your failure to understand it. Your claim all 2,000,000 apprehended illegally entering the country will be deported, is patently false.
I pointed out several times that there have been approx 100k asylum applications, those folks aren’t deported. That’s 5%. Certainly no vast majority.

Hell, DeSantis couldn’t even find enough asylum seekers in Florida to send to MV. That alone tells you Tucker is pulling it from his ass and spoon feeding you.
 

Dog 2.0

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Absolutely they did. They entered at a point of entry and handed in asylum paperwork. Those entering illegally are tossed out. 2 million, remember?(except for the couple countries where we cannot extradite, like Cuba and Venezuela.)
False
 

phillysailor

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Your problem is not your source, it's your failure to understand it. Your claim all 2,000,000 apprehended illegally entering the country will be deported, is patently false.
Is that the best way to handle this situation?

Taking into consideration foreign policy implications, economic, labor force and employer needs as well as historical precedent no case has been made that 100% deportation is likely, desirable or feasible.

Do you always ignore Americas best interests, tradition and pattern of practice when suggesting official policy?

No wonder the GOP is incapable of effective leadership or winning popular national votes.
 

Raz'r

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you're right, we're a country of laws and if immigrants apply for asylum, we need to process their application, have a hearing, etc. It's the law, and a treaty obligation. That estimate is about 100k people this year so far.
 

Dog 2.0

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Is that the best way to handle this situation?

Taking into consideration foreign policy implications, economic, labor force and employer needs as well as historical precedent no case has been made that 100% deportation is likely, desirable or feasible.

Do you always ignore Americas best interests, tradition and pattern of practice when suggesting official policy?

No wonder the GOP is incapable of effective leadership or winning popular national votes.

Speaking of the national interest. Would it not be in America's best interest to end the illegal immigration by controlling the border and admit the workers we need and want through a legal system over which we have control?

BTW....The deterioration of Democratic cities (were you shopping in Wawa yesterday?), the recession, the market a mess, rising crime rates from coast to coast, inflation and falling real incomes, the migration of Americans to red states speaks to a failure of effective Democratic leadership.
 

Bus Driver

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Speaking of the national interest. Would it not be in America's best interest to end the illegal immigration by controlling the border and admit the workers we need and want through a legal system over which we have control?

BTW....The deterioration of Democratic cities (were you shopping in Wawa yesterday?), the recession, the market a mess, rising crime rates from coast to coast, inflation and falling real incomes, the migration of Americans to red states speaks to a failure of effective Democratic leadership.
Ask Dog Deux a question and you'll get a different question in response. Sadly typical.
 

Sol Rosenberg

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Raz'r

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Speaking of the national interest. Would it not be in America's best interest to end the illegal immigration by controlling the border and admit the workers we need and want through a legal system over which we have control?
How is the situation today not what you suggest it is? Are too many attempting to cross? Yes. Why? Because business owners keep hiring them. Stop the demand, stop the migration.

How would you stop the demand? Guest worker program. Oh, that's right, Republicans oppose real solutions.
 

Dog 2.0

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How is the situation today not what you suggest it is? Are too many attempting to cross? Yes. Why? Because business owners keep hiring them. Stop the demand, stop the migration.

How would you stop the demand? Guest worker program. Oh, that's right, Republicans oppose real solutions.
Yes
 

Sol Rosenberg

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Texas AG flees his home to avoid a subpoena. Maybe he can seek asylum in Mexico, eh bullshitters? Mexican bullshitters would go to work telling people he’s illegal.
 

phillysailor

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Speaking of the national interest. Would it not be in America's best interest to end the illegal immigration by controlling the border and admit the workers we need and want through a legal system over which we have control?

BTW....The deterioration of Democratic cities (were you shopping in Wawa yesterday?), the recession, the market a mess, rising crime rates from coast to coast, inflation and falling real incomes, the migration of Americans to red states speaks to a failure of effective Democratic leadership.
Gotcha. You want to retreat to la la land where somehow Biden could flip a switch and magically the border is solved. Typical GOP response: make outlandish and freakishly expensive “solutions” that still lets in the drugs and is quickly defeated by the overwhelming crush of people seeking every possible avenue of entry.

Just make sure the right people get the contracts.

Meanwhile, you define the market as the economy, ignoring the pay raises enjoyed by average workers and the impacts of last year’s child tax credit and this year’s student loan forgiveness which has increased the net worth of the bottom 50% of Americans by 60%

And 67,000 manufacturing jobs have been added in the US over pre-pandemic numbers.

Plz note “trickle down” actions so beloved by the GOP and their oligarch funders has led to crashing the UK stock market.

Yep, prices have risen due to a variety of factors, but gas is once again reasonably priced after the fossil fuel companies made their trillions, some of which was no doubt rapidly spent on weakening the Clean Energy bill which zero Republicans votes for although it helps their constituents.

And I hope you are right about the migration to red states: perhaps they will bring with them a desire for competent and compassionate governance.

Just remember, it is blue states economic support that keeps red states going. They are leeches on our nation, while failing to provide the health care and economic support the blue states and most of the rest of the world view as a right of their citizens.
 




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