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Hey sportscar

what is the sail number of the yellow boat in that pic?

when was that photo taken?

i think it is a 740 sport.
Most of the 740's were named farr something. Farrcical was one i sailed on, Farrnatic i seem to recall was another, not sure if Farrout was another Farr.

From memory there were 3 740's in melb all competitive, red yellow from SYS and blue (farrcical) from RBYC. A few others came and went also

 

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Most of the 740's were named farr something. Farrcical was one i sailed on, Farrnatic i seem to recall was another, not sure if Farrout was another Farr.

From memory there were 3 740's in melb all competitive, red yellow from SYS and blue (farrcical) from RBYC. A few others came and went also
The red white and green one was called Spaghetti Factory. Chris Carlile had a navy blue one at Sandy. 

 
Most of the 740's were named farr something. Farrcical was one i sailed on, Farrnatic i seem to recall was another, not sure if Farrout was another Farr.

From memory there were 3 740's in melb all competitive, red yellow from SYS and blue (farrcical) from RBYC. A few others came and went also
Used to race one out of Sydney,  called Small Commission,  owner replaced it with a Peterson 30,  half tonner,  called her Half Commission.

Got interested in a bigger boat and seriously looked at a new (then) state of the art Farr 40.  I was never sure whether my suggested name of Farr King Big Commission,  was the reason he never went ahead.

 

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Most of the 740's were named farr something.... Farrnatic i seem to recall was another
I sailed a bit on Farrnatic, good fun with some nice blokes.  Interesting one very light day the owner couldn't get her going - I said "give me a go" and found (I'd had previous experience on a different boat) that at very low boat speeds, the helm operated in reverse - go to head upwind and the boat bears away instead, and vice versa.  This kills boat speed, but hold the helm central and let the speed build, and steering goes back to normal.

Anyone else found this with 740 Sports?

 

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Awesome boat , Laurie Davison design built by Ken Jago for my father Keith Jones for the 1983 1/4 ton cup in Melbourne , finished second behind Dubois ‘Quatermaster’ - Graham Jones ( no relation). Keith and team raced in Europe 1/4 ton cup in Niuewport 1984 , and again in ‘85 and I think ‘86 ( but may have those years wrong ). Some of the guys who sailed aboard Peter Gale , Barney Walker , Stewart Carter , Ross Lloyd. She came home and was based in SEQ until family sold her. Sails with cut down rig now. - Rod Jones 
So many memories here of the Prime Time of sail on port phillip bay...I sailed with these guys..and was off to the 1/4 ton worlds in Europe when I came down with appendicitis just a week before leaving...Freckle was not impressed. Also did a few series with Dorro & Co on a slew of 1/4 tonners before getting involved with JLaw....(with Greg Melody)...a boat that absolutely dominated JOG for a while. Steinman was on a roll and we then jumped onto the Zulu's for the next chapter. So lucky to have experienced tonners, JOG & IOR at their peaks...Good Toimes! ;-)

 
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Were you actually going SO slow that you were going backwards? :lol:
Philistine!  And you are from Pittwater - did you not know that Gretel 2 used to do the same thing at <2knots BS?  Alan Payne never figured it out AFAIK.  As a kid I sailed on a Cole 43 that also had the same foible.  In that case we filled in the prop aperture in the rudder skeg and shifted the prop to come out of the keel (hydraulic motor) and that solved it.   :)

 

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Philistine!  And you are from Pittwater - did you not know that Gretel 2 used to do the same thing at <2knots BS?  Alan Payne never figured it out AFAIK.  As a kid I sailed on a Cole 43 that also had the same foible.  In that case we filled in the prop aperture in the rudder skeg and shifted the prop to come out of the keel (hydraulic motor) and that solved it.   :)
Sure you're talking about Gretel II? I skippered her for 4 years and never noticed that - maybe that was before her rebuild in 1977, or the complete rebuild 2009.

 
I sailed a bit on Farrnatic, good fun with some nice blokes.  Interesting one very light day the owner couldn't get her going - I said "give me a go" and found (I'd had previous experience on a different boat) that at very low boat speeds, the helm operated in reverse - go to head upwind and the boat bears away instead, and vice versa.  This kills boat speed, but hold the helm central and let the speed build, and steering goes back to normal.

Anyone else found this with 740 Sports?

 
Lady Grace was Max Tunbridge's own boat [following on from Grace Darling] with a metalflake gelcoat like a ski boat. Max had every locker under the settees built with foam backing for use as eskies. When the boat was at the Brisbane Boat Show he had a bet with Ken Down as to how long a bag of ice would last in each - won easily.

Grace Darling had a standard masthead rig, Lady Grace pushed the rig a little higher making it a fractional.

The other thing that Max had was a small winch for every line as it was easier for his family to trim.
Lady Grace also had a foam sandwich hull so was a bit lighter and stiffer than a standard hull.

 
Lady Grace was Max Tunbridge's own boat [following on from Grace Darling] with a metalflake gelcoat like a ski boat. Max had every locker under the settees built with foam backing for use as eskies. When the boat was at the Brisbane Boat Show he had a bet with Ken Down as to how long a bag of ice would last in each - won easily.

Grace Darling had a standard masthead rig, Lady Grace pushed the rig a little higher making it a fractional.

The other thing that Max had was a small winch for every line as it was easier for his family to trim.
Lady Grace also had a foam sandwich hull so was a bit lighter and stiffer than a standard boat.

 

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Sure you're talking about Gretel II? I skippered her for 4 years and never noticed that - maybe that was before her rebuild in 1977, or the complete rebuild 2009.
I thought I had replied to this - dunno what happened.  Pretty sure it was G2, and in original challenge form.  I had no personal experience (only sailed on the boat once and didn't steer), but it was reported in the sailing mags of the time.  Those reports were how I knew about the issue and could pick what was happening with the Cole 43.  Bloody long time ago though, and I could have remembered wrongly!

Gweudo, I always thought the gap between the transom and the leading edge of the rudder was too great on Farrnatic - perhaps notching the rudder to tuck it closer may have helped.  A light air venue like Darwin will probably show different characteristics to Sandy.

Cheers

 

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That was a wild night.

We went north to Bird Island and were back at the heads at dawn. The race was called off and we spent the next two days out searching for Waikikamukau and those who were on her. The Joggies went south.

RIP, very sad.
yep... wild night... Looking back I'm not sure JOG's were up to sailing in conditions like that.
Very sad for both Waikikamukau and Montego bay
 

 

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I thought I had replied to this - dunno what happened.  Pretty sure it was G2, and in original challenge form.  I had no personal experience (only sailed on the boat once and didn't steer), but it was reported in the sailing mags of the time.  Those reports were how I knew about the issue and could pick what was happening with the Cole 43.  Bloody long time ago though, and I could have remembered wrongly!

Gweudo, I always thought the gap between the transom and the leading edge of the rudder was too great on Farrnatic - perhaps notching the rudder to tuck it closer may have helped.  A light air venue like Darwin will probably show different characteristics to Sandy.

Cheers
Fair enough, just interested - funny you should mention Cole 43s - my father in law raced one in the 1970s - Ruffian.

 

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Fair enough, just interested - funny you should mention Cole 43s - my father in law raced one in the 1970s - Ruffian.
The Cole 43 Ruffian is hanging unloved on a mooring in Williamstown, VIC. Heres an earlier shot while she was still on the marina Cole 43 Ruffian 11 Geoff Otter (1).JPG

 
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The Cole 43 Ruffian is hanging unloved on a mooring in Williamstown, VIC. Heres an earlier shot while she was still on the marina View attachment 457698
That's a shame.  Having raced on them and against them, it's hard to not have a soft spot for the C43's, good seaworthy boats that they are.  I think we raced against Ruffian in a Hobart or 2, but the ones I particularly remember are Bacardi and Taurus.

 

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That's a shame.  Having raced on them and against them, it's hard to not have a soft spot for the C43's, good seaworthy boats that they are.  I think we raced against Ruffian in a Hobart or 2, but the ones I particularly remember are Bacardi and Taurus.
Ruffian did a few Hobarts - 1976 was his best result i think. She had a spinnaker with Hagar The Horrible on it!

Tony Mowbray took a Cole 43 around the world non-stop and solo. Strong boats.

 


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