Couta,Dunc..your comment: "Any club/organisation is as corrupt as its members let it get, they need to actively participate in elections, or they will get the leaders they deserve, good and hard." suggests you've misinterpreted my point...or that I wasn't being clear.
I'm not suggesting my club's admin is corrupt...they are the hard working, honest, committed backbone of the club...running mid-week schools programs, girlsail, class regattas (state & national) and the week in, week out club sailing program. My point is that all of them, in the pursuit of delivering these events has become enthralled with the AS process...getting "qualified"...and in the process...indoctrinated into doing things the AS way. These people aren't sailors, they are race administrators...and they see themselves as AS acolytes. They don't stop to ask "what is the AS doing for my club?"...and some see the opportunity to become a PRO and have expenses covered as they get their passport stamped in the AS regatta books....along with the professional coaches and semi-pro PRO's, the international jurors and all the added expenses....It creates a dichotomy in the club when it comes to the perceived role of AS....That's what I mean by "us & them".
AS do not have a clue about how to train instructors. There are some fine (non RYA) Instructors working in Clubs but is not thanks to anything AS taught them. They are fine instructors despite any AS involvement. Training volunteers is one thing they could do for free to put back in for clubs.trying to sell us train-the-trainer programs
Wouldn't hurt everyone to do an RO's course. I think I learnt more about starting 'yanking flags' on the start boat than I did in years of racking up. Might create a bit more empathy and understanding towards the RO.random. said:In about 2015 I saw a class association organise a non-AS RO training course. Booked the Manly rooms and all. As far as I can tell, of the dozen or so who completed it, only one of the trainers ever went on to do a few events a year. Complete waste of time and money.
I asked one of them why they went to the course? He said "I just wanted to know what RO's did and I had nothing else on that week. The organisers made the mistake of not charging for it.
So what is the definition of a "Qualified" instructor...??Things are getting worse.
A nearby club has had added to their insurance policy that they are not covered unless a qualified instructor is overseeing any training activities they run.
So you don't need to be an AS school, but in the country where I am, maintiaing an AS qualification has become all but impossible if you don't have an AS school. Their recertification requirements are just too hard and expensive to meet otherwise.
So bit by bit all the doors are bing closed on clubs without AS certifiaction. And certainly their requirements for certification of volunteer assistant instructors is a major barrier against getting AS school certification.
One would expect that it is someone who attended an instructor course run by their State Member body (or sub agent or what ever they are called now) or in the case of junior instructors, by a senior instructor through a club. I helped write and rolled out the national 'Keelboat' scheme for them about 12 years ago IIRC. We set it up with the RYA model. Candidates pass a 4 day instructor qualifying course then attend a two day update every 5 years. Any real stars have their cards marked to be invited to attend a senior instructor course after a few seasons experience. The system works by spotting tossers early and not letting them in.So what is the definition of a "Qualified" instructor...??
Re. SailPass, I was crewing an RPAYC race the other day (inshore) and a crew list was mandatory. Having a valid SailPass with all your details filled in isn't sufficient, because there's no connection between SailPass and SailSys. So you end up filling out your details twice.
What also came as a surprise was that I'd registered for a free SailPass for the date of the race via RANSA, but then read the RPAYC NOR which modifies Rule 46:
3.9 The attention of Owners and/or Persons-in-Charge is drawn to RRS 46 Person in Charge and Crew eligibility. RRS 46 is amended as follows:
(a) All persons on board that are not members of RPAYC, shall register for a RPAYC Sail Pass for each day they intend to compete in an event or race that is organised by the RPAYC. SailPass registration shall be prior to the event or race starting. All required fields shall be completed.
3.10 Sail Passes acquired at other Clubs, are not valid at RPAYC.
So a SailPass is not enough, in some cases it might need to be a SailPass from the club organizing the event. Fortunately RPAYC's SailPasses are free, but it's not hard to imagine that clubs who charge for SailPasses will probably start requiring a SailPass issued by them.
That was always the intention, just AS was too fucking dishonest to say so.I've moved to a new area, and the local club in this area wants visiting AS members to buy a $15 sailpass for each race. I'm not sure that was the original intent of the system (at least as I understood it) and was surprised to hear other clubs are doing something similar.
Thought you were racing at Shorncliffe, last time anyone from AS went there Deliverance was playing at the box office.Just been filling in my cat 5 certificate for the new financial year and of course in ASs infinite wisdom, these days it needs to be audited. I only started racing my boat this year, so last financial years cat 5 was audited only 6 months ago.
I use the term "financial year" because the July 1st new year matches nothing in the sailing year. Clubs tend to start their race year in spring. Th July 1st date is in the middle of the winter series. AS rule changes often take effect on Jan 1st, not July 1st
July 1st made very little sense in the past but it was no big deal when there was no mandatory audit, but club auditors must be busy right now.
The mandatory audit is an onerous requirement as it stands at the moment, but what do you expect from an organisation that's only focus is on sucking up to Government for funding and pleasing the mega rich maxi, TP etc owners.
Audits make sense and can be helpful when moving up a category. However when renewing your certificate, what has happened since the last time? I'm my boats case, I serviced my lifejackets & fire extinguishers. I checked the dates of my flares (from the last cat 5 form) and replaced some consumables in my first aid kit. Job done except the audit.
The way the rules are currently structured, the July 1 mandated safety Audit adds very little to zero to the onboard safety.
At the club racing level (5-7) audits should only be made mandatory for the first time a boat has a certificate at a certain level or when major rule changes occur.
Safety certificates should also be valid for 12 months regardless of the date submitted/audited. All clubs use or should be using computerised systems for managing their racing, so different expiry dates is no longer an issue.
I would address this to our resident AS Head of Safety Rules but as I don't own a $1m racer my opinion will be worth less than $0.02 to AS ............
Do you at least change your seating position on the boat so you can at least be useful ballast?BTW, as owner are you paying for my sail pass for the regatta? I also will require a car to pick me up from home on the day morning. I know I only live 100 mts from the club, but I am a very lazy cunt. As you will find out during the series. Is there a nice dry spot back in the members stand for me?