Back In The Saddle - In 30 Knots!

hhn92

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There are some very talented people in the crew working on it with other contributors including Ben Hall of Hall Spars who built the rig. We will not go out if it is unsafe as we were very lucky no one was hurt today and we don't want to push our luck. Those photos were just from the mocking up stage, there are about a dozen carbon fiber battens that will be held in place with shit ton of machine screws and some extremely strong epoxy given to us by Hall Spars. Then the outside of the joint will be wrapped in carbon fiber and epoxied.
Best of luck to you all, hopefully your work will pay off. From my vantage point behind a computer in the frozen north, I just wonder what kind of compression load that can take (having seen a compression failure in the past).
I'd say that if the runner block holds-up, then they'll be OK.

 

notallthere

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im on a boat!
Ish, you think you'll really be able to get out there tomorrow?
There are some very talented people in the crew working on it with other contributors including Ben Hall of Hall Spars who built the rig. We will not go out if it is unsafe as we were very lucky no one was hurt today and we don't want to push our luck. Those photos were just from the mocking up stage, there are about a dozen carbon fiber battens that will be held in place with shit ton of machine screws and some extremely strong epoxy given to us by Hall Spars. Then the outside of the joint will be wrapped in carbon fiber and epoxied.
dude, good luck! bummer to be down there broken, but i love the inginuity!

i have a phrase, "Ghetto Gucci" feel free to use it

 
bummer about XS. our day didnt go too hot either, but not quite as bad. Had a MOB, had to stuff it up to get him back onboard as he held onto the life lines. Had hourglasses galore, a torn chute... and then, at the last leeward mark, our roller furler jammed up. Excellent. Went a 1/4 the leg with no jib till we realized we could partially unroll it by unrapping it... Major kudos to the Harken guys for spending the last 4hours getting the old system off and getting a new one on. It was an obvious maintenance foulup on our part.

Had much better starts today, but couldnt seem to hold it. Either an 'unlucky' shift or a gear failure somewhere. Tomorrow should be fun.

 
bummer about XS. our day didnt go too hot either, but not quite as bad. Had a MOB, had to stuff it up to get him back onboard as he held onto the life lines. Had hourglasses galore, a torn chute... and then, at the last leeward mark, our roller furler jammed up. Excellent. Went a 1/4 the leg with no jib till we realized we could partially unroll it by unrapping it... Major kudos to the Harken guys for spending the last 4hours getting the old system off and getting a new one on. It was an obvious maintenance foulup on our part.
Had much better starts today, but couldnt seem to hold it. Either an 'unlucky' shift or a gear failure somewhere. Tomorrow should be fun.
Hey Mustang,

Thanks for the report.. bummer...

what are you racing a M24? which one?

Doug, Brian & all team XS: Wishing you the best of luck tomorrow!!!

 
bummer about XS. our day didnt go too hot either, but not quite as bad. Had a MOB, had to stuff it up to get him back onboard as he held onto the life lines. Had hourglasses galore, a torn chute... and then, at the last leeward mark, our roller furler jammed up. Excellent. Went a 1/4 the leg with no jib till we realized we could partially unroll it by unrapping it... Major kudos to the Harken guys for spending the last 4hours getting the old system off and getting a new one on. It was an obvious maintenance foulup on our part.
Had much better starts today, but couldnt seem to hold it. Either an 'unlucky' shift or a gear failure somewhere. Tomorrow should be fun.
Hey Mustang,

Thanks for the report.. bummer...

what are you racing a M24? which one?

Doug, Brian & all team XS: Wishing you the best of luck tomorrow!!!
Thanks. racing a 109.

Atleast, when things werent going wrong, we have the speed potential to do ok. Clock is ticking though.

 
Clean... i saw you might be covering Div 3 tomorrow. If you do, think you might be able to find out what happened to Blind Faith today in the "dumptruck" class? Just wondering why they had to be towed in.
While we're on the topic of Division 3....

Could you please stalk TANGENT... afterall... they are the ONLY boat in this entire regatta that has 4 consecutive 1sts.... and that's first to finish and corrected. One of today's finishes was determined by 2 seconds. Cheers to the other Annapolis, MD boat.

The Cape Fear will continue to dominate as long as the wind continues to blow.... when it dies.... oh oh -- hard times for Tangent!!

So, please, get them while they're hot -- tomorrow should blow.

However, WARNING, photograph Cliff is like photographing the Ahmish -- he's just freaky weird about that sort of thing!! It's not everyday that I get to see my husband race -- so -- any footage would be appreciated. Flown to lots of finishes and barfed on lots of races (love to hitchhiker).... but would LOVE to see some on the water footage!!

Lot of Love to Clean & Mer for a job well done!!

Femme
Will do Femme. But I'll do a better job of it if you show us something mammary.

CLEAN -- For shame, for shame... you're a married man.....

Check with Ed for photo....

Ish, you think you'll really be able to get out there tomorrow?
There are some very talented people in the crew working on it with other contributors including Ben Hall of Hall Spars who built the rig. We will not go out if it is unsafe as we were very lucky no one was hurt today and we don't want to push our luck. Those photos were just from the mocking up stage, there are about a dozen carbon fiber battens that will be held in place with shit ton of machine screws and some extremely strong epoxy given to us by Hall Spars. Then the outside of the joint will be wrapped in carbon fiber and epoxied.
Onya bro. Much luck. Let me buy you a drink tomorrow.
 
bummer about XS. our day didnt go too hot either, but not quite as bad. Had a MOB, had to stuff it up to get him back onboard as he held onto the life lines. Had hourglasses galore, a torn chute... and then, at the last leeward mark, our roller furler jammed up. Excellent. Went a 1/4 the leg with no jib till we realized we could partially unroll it by unrapping it... Major kudos to the Harken guys for spending the last 4hours getting the old system off and getting a new one on. It was an obvious maintenance foulup on our part.
Had much better starts today, but couldnt seem to hold it. Either an 'unlucky' shift or a gear failure somewhere. Tomorrow should be fun.
Hey Mustang,

Thanks for the report.. bummer...

what are you racing a M24? which one?

Doug, Brian & all team XS: Wishing you the best of luck tomorrow!!!
Thanks. racing a 109.

Atleast, when things werent going wrong, we have the speed potential to do ok. Clock is ticking though.
Given that your a FLA sailor, I'll guess Too Sweet. I'm a regular J/109 trimmer/tactician (depending on the 109 that I'm sailing.) Hopefuly, we'll get a KWRW OD start again soon.

Good Luck for the rest of the week!

btw: Was your MOB due to a lifeline failure?? We've had issues with that in the past.

 
bummer about XS. our day didnt go too hot either, but not quite as bad. Had a MOB, had to stuff it up to get him back onboard as he held onto the life lines. Had hourglasses galore, a torn chute... and then, at the last leeward mark, our roller furler jammed up. Excellent. Went a 1/4 the leg with no jib till we realized we could partially unroll it by unrapping it... Major kudos to the Harken guys for spending the last 4hours getting the old system off and getting a new one on. It was an obvious maintenance foulup on our part.
Had much better starts today, but couldnt seem to hold it. Either an 'unlucky' shift or a gear failure somewhere. Tomorrow should be fun.
Hey Mustang,

Thanks for the report.. bummer...

what are you racing a M24? which one?

Doug, Brian & all team XS: Wishing you the best of luck tomorrow!!!
Thanks. racing a 109.

Atleast, when things werent going wrong, we have the speed potential to do ok. Clock is ticking though.
Given that your a FLA sailor, I'll guess Too Sweet. I'm a regular J/109 trimmer/tactician (depending on the 109 that I'm sailing.) Hopefuly, we'll get a KWRW OD start again soon.

Good Luck for the rest of the week!

btw: Was your MOB due to a lifeline failure?? We've had issues with that in the past.
Oh, BTW... we've had RF issues twice up at 2 different NYYC Rolex Regatta's.

Was that a set pin issue?

 
bummer about XS. our day didnt go too hot either, but not quite as bad. Had a MOB, had to stuff it up to get him back onboard as he held onto the life lines. Had hourglasses galore, a torn chute... and then, at the last leeward mark, our roller furler jammed up. Excellent. Went a 1/4 the leg with no jib till we realized we could partially unroll it by unrapping it... Major kudos to the Harken guys for spending the last 4hours getting the old system off and getting a new one on. It was an obvious maintenance foulup on our part.
Had much better starts today, but couldnt seem to hold it. Either an 'unlucky' shift or a gear failure somewhere. Tomorrow should be fun.

Here's to Harken!

Three years ago serving as Tactician on Temptress, our beloved SR-33 I was quite suprised to have my Port Runner Winch blow up in my face. Quite unpleasant, really. Bummed the shoulder ( :) ) but that's about the only Tac related injury possible other than bruised ego.... Anyway, had my ol bud from VC look at it and as he will remember- he told me to go to the Harken trailer with my tail between my legs. No mention of being a sailmaker or professional rigger- just go with whats left in the box and see what they can do. I WAS BLOWN AWAY. We (I guess I) had managed to dicentegrate the lower gears (into dust) and could not reckognize several other parts. THESE FREAKIN GUYS SPENT ALL NIGHT MACHINING NEW PARTS for a ten (at least) year old winch. And when they were done, I was at the dumb end of a flashlight while Peter Harken himself crawled into Satan's cave to re-seat the winch. I have never seen anything like it in customer service- ever. The winch held for the event and they replaced it with a bigger-badder one for half price- and did the install- at Miami. The same regatta (06') we had a bunch of shit blow up. Like lower shrouds (rod), 5/16 pins, 1/4" Vectran, (north sails) "strong stuff". But for every single piece of Harken gear that blew- no matter how undersized I had rigged it- they gave or heavily discounted replacements of "right stuff" on the spot. I bet the VOR guys wish they could get the customer service treatment ocean middle! Seriously though, from a guy that practically blows up gear for a living I was FLAT OUT BLOWN AWAY. Some of the other guys may have great kit, but when the guy named HARKEN is fixing your stuff so you can go racing the next day- thats amazing! Thanks Harken- all ya'll rock Hman

 

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Clean... i saw you might be covering Div 3 tomorrow. If you do, think you might be able to find out what happened to Blind Faith today in the "dumptruck" class? Just wondering why they had to be towed in.
While we're on the topic of Division 3....

Could you please stalk TANGENT... afterall... they are the ONLY boat in this entire regatta that has 4 consecutive 1sts.... and that's first to finish and corrected. One of today's finishes was determined by 2 seconds. Cheers to the other Annapolis, MD boat.

The Cape Fear will continue to dominate as long as the wind continues to blow.... when it dies.... oh oh -- hard times for Tangent!!

So, please, get them while they're hot -- tomorrow should blow.

However, WARNING, photograph Cliff is like photographing the Ahmish -- he's just freaky weird about that sort of thing!! It's not everyday that I get to see my husband race -- so -- any footage would be appreciated. Flown to lots of finishes and barfed on lots of races (love to hitchhiker).... but would LOVE to see some on the water footage!!

Lot of Love to Clean & Mer for a job well done!!

Femme
 
Saw the pics of XS repair. I would say nice job, and if the "crazy epoxy" sets up they should be fine- echo- probably the strongest part of the mast. for those who don't sail runner boats- when one unexpectedly goes boom the whole rig falls onto the perm back and mainsail leech- meaning like FREAKY bend, compression galore, and usually in the case of carbon- end of mast. Lucky it was just the mast- OneT's had the habbit of ripping the main in half and taking the traveler with it.

Great argument for little jibs and swepth spreaders until you look at the results before it blew. Proper overalpping jibs and rig control with runners is faster, period. When the fad towards swept/little jib began it was to simplify the boats- not to make them faster. With Fish on board and leading the way watch out- this boat is sailing tomorrow and (with a good epoxy set) winning the fleet after the drop.

I love the effort. For many of you- many times I was the loft guy up until OMG it's time to go racing to get you back on the water. The talent and effort it takes to get these things done is amazing- more amazing than a TAC who can call an obvious shift or get the rig tune right. If FISH pulls this off he's boat of the week, so let someone know. And BTW- Ben Hall and his Hall team are up there with Harken for CS. They love what they do, and they pull out all the stops! Good on ya!

Hman

 

BrianMalone

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Good luck with the repair (XS). Wish I was there to help. Go get 'em tomorrow!
The repair is well under way and progressing as well as we can hope. Our fate is left to two heat lamps, a space heater, and some epoxy. If we can get the stuff kicked and cured the splice will be good to go. New running rigging is made, main's repaired, spin's in the loft. Some luck with the crane and it might happen.

Starting a watch rotation to keep the crew fresh as we tend the epoxy.

 
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War Dog

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Good luck with the repair (XS). Wish I was there to help. Go get 'em tomorrow!
The repair is well under way and progressing as well as we can hope. Our fate is left to two heat lamps, a space heater, and some epoxy. If we can get the stuff kicked and cured the splice will be good to go. New running rigging is made, main's repaired, spin's in the loft. Some luck with the crane and it might happen.

Starting a watch rotation to keep the crew fresh as we tend the epoxy.

Dudes loveing your style..........................go the XS not to take any thing away from El Ocaso ........kind O got to root for them as I was on the bow 06,07. If you see this Rick,Tad and Doc keep up the good work!!!!

 
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bummer about XS. our day didnt go too hot either, but not quite as bad. Had a MOB, had to stuff it up to get him back onboard as he held onto the life lines. Had hourglasses galore, a torn chute... and then, at the last leeward mark, our roller furler jammed up. Excellent. Went a 1/4 the leg with no jib till we realized we could partially unroll it by unrapping it... Major kudos to the Harken guys for spending the last 4hours getting the old system off and getting a new one on. It was an obvious maintenance foulup on our part.
Had much better starts today, but couldnt seem to hold it. Either an 'unlucky' shift or a gear failure somewhere. Tomorrow should be fun.
Hey Mustang,

Thanks for the report.. bummer...

what are you racing a M24? which one?

Doug, Brian & all team XS: Wishing you the best of luck tomorrow!!!

Thanks. racing a 109.

Atleast, when things werent going wrong, we have the speed potential to do ok. Clock is ticking though.
Given that your a FLA sailor, I'll guess Too Sweet. I'm a regular J/109 trimmer/tactician (depending on the 109 that I'm sailing.) Hopefuly, we'll get a KWRW OD start again soon.

Good Luck for the rest of the week!

btw: Was your MOB due to a lifeline failure?? We've had issues with that in the past.

That would be great a OD start, Four last year sucked, can't imagine two this year. How do you guys pan out against the fleets this year? Last year those bigger boats just walked in breeze.

If we could have a fleet as competitive as this past NYYC race week it would be awesome. Good Luck Mustang!

OC

 

OC 103

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Anyone know if the B36.7 is flying MH kites? That seems like a fast rating for them to be that close to the J-109. I sail on both and 109's are more than 4 seconds quicker. Well anyway Go Blueprint!

 
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