Balloon spy

d'ranger

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I think it may be premature to right off the initiative, at least partly because it is to important, economically and geopolitically for the Chinese. I think they got carried away with it initially and spent like drunken sailors (who had lots of money of course). They may have to write off loans and be more judicious in where they invest but they need it to succeed. They do think in generational terms rather than in terms of when is the next election. But I could be wrong.
Great info as always - yesterday I decided to watch some of 60 minutes and the head of the IMF was being interviewed (sorry can't remember her name but her backstory is very impressive) and in discussing the international loans and the numbers that can't pay China was an important topic because they have loaned a lot of money to a lot of countries that are now upside down (not like Australia or NZ). Interesting times.
 

Bus Driver

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I want to ask him what a better indicator of Trump's incompetence was. Did he know and do nothing, or was he utterly clueless while America's border was violated?
You could produce a videotape of the defeated ex-President being told the balloons were spotted over the continental US and he would deny it. And, Petey and the Faithful would dutifully nod their heads in unison, and repeat that lie.
 

badlatitude

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You could produce a videotape of the defeated ex-President being told the balloons were spotted over the continental US and he would deny it. And, Petey and the Faithful would dutifully nod their heads in unison, and repeat that lie.
I think it's called the "Alice in Wonderland" defense.
 

Sol Rosenberg

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You could produce a videotape of the defeated ex-President being told the balloons were spotted over the continental US and he would deny it. And, Petey and the Faithful would dutifully nod their heads in unison, and repeat that lie.
If there hadn’t been a much better than expected jobs report we would have never heard about chinas clumsy balloon stunt, and around here we would not have had the Ridgeline full of bullshit to cover for Trump’s failures on the same topic.
 

Remodel

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Domnies were over Guam and Hawaii for short periods.. Not over entire continental USA. Biden had another balloon he also did not shoot down. This wasnt the first.
Check your sources. The defense department said three balloons over the "continental" United States. The also specifically noted one over Texas.
 

Dog 2.0

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You could produce a videotape of the defeated ex-President being told the balloons were spotted over the continental US and he would deny it. And, Petey and the Faithful would dutifully nod their heads in unison, and repeat that lie.
You can have real officials (not Trump fans btw) deny it on the record but if an un-named source says it's true, the faithful here will dutifully believe it.
 

Dog 2.0

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Dog Deux objects to "unnamed sources". At least, he objects to them when they don't serve his purpose*.

“Instances of this kind of balloon activity have been observed previously over the past several years,” Pentagon spokesperson Brig. Gen. Patrick S. Ryder said in a statement published Thursday.

Balloon Incident Reveals More Than Spying as Competition With China Intensifies


We were caught flat-footed, it would seem. That this happened before won't matter for the folks who find fault with anything and everything to do with the current Administration.
“Instances of this kind of balloon activity have been observed previously over the past several years,”
That is not a confirmation of the three Trump era overflights the un-named source claims.
 

Bus Driver

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“Instances of this kind of balloon activity have been observed previously over the past several years,”
That is not a confirmation of the three Trump era overflights the un-named source claims.
You have an interesting, and severely limiting (read: convenient), definition of "several".

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How long has President Biden been in office?
 

Stingray~

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The next outrage will come when details about whatever instruments were on board get made public. You can bet they will get hyped!

Me, I doubt the processing power on that thing was any better than anyone's phone can do, and the capability any better than a cheap consumer drone - the most popular brand being - yes - DJI manufactured in China. I have one, they're great fun. Oh, and with some wind-measuring instruments added :)
 


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