Banque Populaire dropping ClaCla

[shebeen]

I might misunderstand the more complex background to the scenario, but what is the chance of Clarisse getting snapped up by a new team in the next month?

One of BP competitors (or anyone looking for some good PR) could take a punt on this situation, charter a boat ASAP so she can get the first quali done, and then work towards the race boat/campaign.

What surprises me even more is that they dropped her without seemingly finding a replacement skipper and inking a deal first.

 

[shebeen]

She got hired in expectation of good / very good performace TOGETHER with entertaining storytelling qualities.

you can't say that she didn't fulfil expectations in both terms. I'd say she excelled, thats why BP initially extended sponsorship.

Please.. its rubbish to bring up her 12th place as a reason zu drop her. If 12th wasnt good enough, they wouldn't have continued cooperation in the first place.

almost 3 years ago to the day. this from feb2021 on her finish.


After a prudent, careful passage across a boisterous Bay of Biscay, negotiating one last stormy low pressure, a triumphant Clarisse Cremer crossed the finish line of the ninth Vendée Globe at 15:44:25 hrs UTC to take an excellent 12th place on Banque Populaire X.
Finishing in late afternoon Vendée sunshine and a diminishing westerly wind of 20kts with 4-5m seas she is the first female skipper to finish from the field of 33 starters.
Her elapsed time of 87 d 02 hrs 24 mins Cremer breaks Ellen MacArthur’s 21 year monohull solo non stop record for a female skipper of 94 days 4 hours which she set when she took second in the 2000-2001 Vendée Globe.
But Cremer played down her ranking as first female to finish, “For me, yes we know that being a woman in ocean racing becomes a differentiator on land. But this is a mixed race and a mixed sport and it about the breadth of ocean racing together. There is no female classification. At sea, I am a sailor and I don't tell myself that the sailor in front is a man or a woman, I don't think about that at all.”
She received a huge, warm welcome in Les Sables d’Olonne’s channel as thousands of well wishers turned out to see the return of the sailor who only sailed her IMOCA 15 months ago for the first time.
"I'm so happy to be here. It's a big relief, we were stressed until the end. I'm happy to have succeeded and to be back with my team.
This welcome is incredible, I feel like I am dreaming.” She grinned.
“ I really learned during this race, it almost makes you want to take the boat away, now that I've learned a lot about it, and go and do it again. I realize that at the start of the Vendée Globe I didn't know how to use the boat so well and I discovered ‘the beast’ as it went. It's nice to be more comfortable on your machine. The preparation time was a bit short, I felt it the first week I was a little intimidated about everything there was to do.”
I think I had less problems in terms of technical issues. I'm lucky to have a great team and a very well prepared boat. It was my real priority from the start to be very careful with my boat. There were times when I wished I had pushed harder on the machine, but the goal was to finish. So I had a hard time, especially from the point of view of fatigue and the feeling of constantly having the sword of Damocles over my head, wondering when the next bad thing was going to happen. The moment I stopped thinking about it, it really got better and betterr. "
A relative latecomer to ocean racing 31 year old Cremer’s bubbly, charismatic personality and big smile masks a steely resolve and an appetite to learn and consume information that merits comparison with the English skipper. This Vendée Globe is just her second ever solo race in an IMOCA.
But while MacArthur dreamed of racing round the world since she was young, Cremer – a graduate of Paris’ elite HEC business school with a postgraduate business diploma from Kelley College, Indiana USA - turned her back on a business career to go ocean racing.
MacArthur sent a message of congratulations to Cremer,
“Hi Clarisse, just a little message to say a big bravo for your race around the world. It's great to see you at the finish line. It’s truly an exceptional lap. Well done for everything you have done! “
After early success in the Mini class in November 2018 – before he had sailed an IMOCA in earnest – she was chosen by the Banque Populaire team to skipper their Banque Populaire X IMOCA. With the benefit of a well prepared – straight daggerboard boat which has a great track record as the winner of the 2012-13 race as MACIF in the hands of Francois Gabart, and more recently as SMA winner of the Route du Rhum when sailed by Paul Meilhat.
She gave her business up to join her boyfriend and future husband, Tanguy Le Turquais, moving from Paris to live in Brittany. He was the person who gave her the taste for ocean racing, and she began dreaming of crossing the Atlantic after working with him and supporting him on his Mini programme
She competed solo for the first time on the 2017 Mini Transat finishing second in the ‘series’ division and enjoyed herself so much that she moved to the Figaro class. Banque Populaire then offered her the chance to skipper their IMOCA project.
She saw it as a golden opportunity, but realised she had to prove herself. “I know that there were other skippers who could have taken up this role. Having this chance comes with responsibilities.”
She set about learning all about IMOCAs firstly alongside Banque Populaire’s 2016-17 Vendée Globe race winning skipper Armel Le Cléac’h (finishing sixth in the 2019 Transat Jacques Vabre), then sailing solo on a delivery trip back before her first solo race – June’s Vendée Arctique Les Sables (12th).
Next up was the Vendée Globe, which was not kind to her in the early days. A series of fronts and tropical storm Thêta led to the need to carry out repairs, in particular to her hydrogenerator, which had snapped off.
It was one thing after another and she felt tired, leading to a lot of self-questioning. “I’m afraid I’m going off my head. I know that each gale seriously affects the condition of my boat.” She openly talked about the times when things were getting her down.
However, Cremer – who celebrated her 31st birthday in the Pacific Ocean - hung on and fought hard, showing the same resources she had managed to find within herself when racing Minis and Figaro boats.
“I never really felt like giving up,” she recently declared. “I learned to switch off my brain, continue to advance, eat, sleep and look after myself.” In the Southern Ocean, she faced a series of low-pressure systems and sailed along the edge of the Ice Exclusion Zone with waves in excess of 20 feet and winds of more than 40 knots in the Pacific.
When Banque Populaire X passed Cape Horn, it was “a fantastic sight” and she believed she had finally “obtained her stripes”. She explained she was “relieved to have got that far without giving up.” She managed to overtake Alan Roura (La Fabrique), racing alongside Romain Attanasio (PURE-Best Western Hotels & Resort) for a long time, before doing battle with Armel Tripon (L’Occcitane en Provence), who only managed to get ahead in the final week.
The climb back up the Atlantic was no joyride, as she had to overcome one of her fears, climbing the mast twice to repair her J2. She also had a tricky time in the Doldrums, before a final battle with big winds and heavy seas in the Bay of Biscay.
She now appears relieved and is determined that this is just the beginning of her round the world racing career
“If I could set off again around the world immediately, I would.” she said in recent days.
The stats of Clarisse Crémer / Banque Populaire X

He covered the 24 365.74 miles of the theoretical course at an average speed of 11.66 knots
Distance actually travelled on the water: 27 697.07 miles at 13.25 knots of average speed
Key stages
The Equator (outward)
17th on 20/11/2020 at 1150hrs UTC, 1d 22hrs 31mins after the leader
The Cape of Good Hope
14th on 03/12/2020 at 2203hrs UTC, 2d 22hrs 52mins after the leader
Cape Leeuwin
12th on 16/12/2020 at 1505hrs UTC, 3d 3hrs 39mins after the leader
Cape Horn
12th on 05/01/2021 at 2218hrs UTC, 3d 8hrs 18mins after the leader
The Equator (on the way back)
12th on 21/01/2021 at 0342hrs UTC, 4d 8hrs 30 mins after the leader
Her boat
Banque Populaire X, designed by Verdier VPLP, built at CDK – Mer Agitée and launched in March 2011.

 

[Virgulino Ferreira]

7 weeks ago Charlie Dalin handed Apivia over to Clarisse:

"So it was the day of handover of the boat to @clarissesurlatlantique and @voilebanquepopulaire . The end of a fabulous first cycle of 4 years with Apivia! Happy to see this beautiful IMOCA in the hands of the fastest woman in history on the @vendeeglobe . Good wind Clarisse and take care of this beautiful boat!" (Charlie Dalin)

Today:

"Since Thursday and this announcement from Clarisse, I am divided between stupefaction, disappointment and incomprehension...

Clarisse, whatever the outcome of this dark affair, I just hope to see you soon on a starting line! Even if I deplore the fact that it is not (anymore) on board my beautiful Apivia.

You have my full support."

(Charlie Dalin)

 

[troll99]

getting droppes by sponsors is daily business. Simon got dropped by arkea, who cares. But he didnt get dropped with some bullshit excuse that only applies to women. And that's the difference. If BP would state "we don't see Clarisse winning, that's why she has to go".. asshole-ish but totally legit.

Lol it is quite some word-twist.

Let's say, Simon dropped of a lack of performance. Clarisse is dropped for the same reason. Lack of performance can be a variety of reasons. Not attending races or not performing etc.

Simple as it is.

 

[TPG]

In french media some leaks appeared.
Between Cremer and BP sailing team, "there were tensions since a long time"...
And now if she accept to come back (as heads of BP Bank Group wish it strongly), articles state that it will be on her own terms, and she will be in the position to choose with who she will want to work.

I'm assuming Ronan Lucas is about to get shitcanned. Hire Franck to run Voile BP.

 

[TPG]

Lol it is quite some word-twist.

Let's say, Simon dropped of a lack of performance. Clarisse is dropped for the same reason. Lack of performance can be a variety of reasons. Not attending races or not performing etc.

Simple as it is.

The rumor mill about Simon is he was dropped due to some disagreement between leadership and him.

 

[Virgulino Ferreira]

Funny she wasn't wearing any BP stuff.

She just gave birth the month before. The stupid Banque Populaire didn't bother to provide a new jacket.

 

[symbio2]

She just gave birth the month before. The stupid Banque Populaire didn't bother to provide a new jacket.

For the biggest offshore sailing team in the world, it's such a crazy challenge to find a jacket (in about a week, at least) for the few minutes of this event.
Offshore french sailing is all about corporate exposure. All the more, this collaboration is all about media, showing. And this awkward boat delivery was an amazing display of that, it was all about that.
They just found a poor small patch to stitch at the hat (that a vast majority will never notice). It's plainly odd.

 

[Mambo Kings]

For the biggest offshore sailing team in the world, it's such a crazy challenge to find a jacket (in about a week, at least) for the few minutes of this event.
Offshore french sailing is all about corporate exposure. All the more, this collaboration is all about media, showing. And this awkward boat delivery was an amazing display of that, it was all about that.
They just found a poor small patch to stitch at the hat (that a vast majority will never notice). It's plainly odd.

Banques Populaire : Lots of people. None of them any good.

 

[shebeen]

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7 weeks ago Charlie Dalin handed Apivia over to Clarisse:

"So it was the day of handover of the boat to @clarissesurlatlantique and @voilebanquepopulaire . The end of a fabulous first cycle of 4 years with Apivia! Happy to see this beautiful IMOCA in the hands of the fastest woman in history on the @vendeeglobe . Good wind Clarisse and take care of this beautiful boat!" (Charlie Dalin)

Today:

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"Since Thursday and this announcement from Clarisse, I am divided between stupefaction, disappointment and incomprehension...

Clarisse, whatever the outcome of this dark affair, I just hope to see you soon on a starting line! Even if I deplore the fact that it is not (anymore) on board my beautiful Apivia.

You have my full support."

(Charlie Dalin)

Stupefaction. Is that an actual word, it should be?!

 

[Laurent]

Stupefaction. Is that an actual word, it should be?!

Flabbergastedness, but in French.








Yeah, yeah.... I know, it's not a word. But it should be though...

 

[eliboat]

I appreciate some of the Marie Tabarly's words.

Especially :
"I would not mention the name of the IMOCA currently racing in the Ocean Race who had a "good looking girl" on board with a large Instagram community rather than another more competent."

"So women are used, for marketing moves, for their "freshness" (Guess who is crowned Sports Strategies Grand Prix in 2021?! After their athlete has snagged a 12th place in the Vendée Globe?)"

Curious who she is talking about, Rosalin Kuiper? If so, seems to be holding her own and making her way as a pro sailor without the benefit of what amounts to a royal surname in offshore yacht racing…

 

[Wess]

Still just not understanding this. BP committing PR suicide and has to see that. But staying the course?? Just don’t get it…

 

[Virgulino Ferreira]

Stupefaction. Is that an actual word, it should be?!

It's a word in Portuguese (estupefação), and not so uncommon to use. Apparently also in French and English.

 

[DtM]

It is certainly an English word

 

[Virgulino Ferreira]

France's fastest female sailor loses place in Vendee Globe after becoming mother

French sailor Clarisse Cremer lost her sponsor for the 2024 Vendee Globe round-the-world sailing race after recently becoming a mother, sparking howls of protest and a condemnation by France's sports minister.

www.reuters.com

Well done, Banque Populaire! It's on Reuters, being reprinted all over the world!

Nice quote on reuters, puts a dagger in BP's throat:

"Vendee Globe president Alain Leboeuf, quoted in Le Monde on Friday, said the decision to drop Cremer was "too hasty" and added that there was ample opportunity for her to complete the required number of miles in due time."

Even the Italians are shocked by the machismo.

Sei una mamma? Allora niente regata

La velista francese Clarisse Crémer non potrà partecipare alla Vendée Globe perché in maternità. La decisione le è stata imposta dallo sponsor Banque Popolare

www.lasvolta.it

"Are you a mom? Then no regatta

French sailor Clarisse Crémer will not be able to participate in the 2024-2025 Vendée Globe because she is on maternity. The decision was forced on her by sponsor Banque Popolare, which has found a new skipper"

 

[symbio2]

For the biggest offshore sailing team in the world, it's such a crazy challenge to find a jacket (in about a week, at least) for the few minutes of this event.
Offshore french sailing is all about corporate exposure. All the more, this collaboration is all about media, showing. And this awkward boat delivery was an amazing display of that, it was all about that.
They just found a poor small patch to stitch at the hat (that a vast majority will never notice). It's plainly odd.

Banques Populaire : Lots of people. None of them any good.

Since some times, I don't appreciate BP sailing team, not at all, for few very good reasons. Yet I do the distinction between the sailing team and the banking group.

Also, it seems clear that we have a very different interpretation of the causes of what I discribed in my post.

 

[symbio2]

that BP chose Clarisse after LeCleach. It looked funny.

I thought also.

 

[symbio2]

Still just not understanding this. BP committing PR suicide and has to see that. But staying the course?? Just don’t get it…

Obviously, not all has been related. And certainly, never will.

 

[Swanno]

France's fastest female sailor loses place in Vendee Globe after becoming mother

French sailor Clarisse Cremer lost her sponsor for the 2024 Vendee Globe round-the-world sailing race after recently becoming a mother, sparking howls of protest and a condemnation by France's sports minister.

www.reuters.com

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Well done, Banque Populaire! It's on Reuters, being reprinted all over the world!

Nice quote on reuters, puts a dagger in BP's throat:

"Vendee Globe president Alain Leboeuf, quoted in Le Monde on Friday, said the decision to drop Cremer was "too hasty" and added that there was ample opportunity for her to complete the required number of miles in due time."

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Even the Italians are shocked by the machismo.

Sei una mamma? Allora niente regata

La velista francese Clarisse Crémer non potrà partecipare alla Vendée Globe perché in maternità. La decisione le è stata imposta dallo sponsor Banque Popolare

www.lasvolta.it

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"Are you a mom? Then no regatta

French sailor Clarisse Crémer will not be able to participate in the 2024-2025 Vendée Globe because she is on maternity. The decision was forced on her by sponsor Banque Popolare, which has found a new skipper"

Good to see the outrage is widespread.