chuso007
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I preferred Malaga. Or Valencia.
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Barcelona AC37
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fresh at here, bold mine
The first deputy mayor of the Barcelona City Council, Jaume Collboni, has valued the work of the Generalitat, the Port of Barcelona and the Government in their efforts to make the city the venue for the 2024 America's Cup sailing, something confirmed this Monday afternoon by Mayor Ada Colau.
The first deputy mayor of the Barcelona City Council, Jaume Collboni, has valued the work of the Generalitat, the Port of Barcelona and the Government in their efforts to make the city the venue for the 2024 America's Cup sailing, something confirmed this Monday afternoon by Mayor Ada Colau.
here too,
03/28/2022 -
VALENCIA. (EP) Barcelona will host the 2024 America's Cup sailing, as confirmed on Monday by the mayor of the city, Ada Colau, in a video on Instagram collected by Europa Press.
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03/28/2022 -
VALENCIA. (EP) Barcelona will host the 2024 America's Cup sailing, as confirmed on Monday by the mayor of the city, Ada Colau, in a video on Instagram collected by Europa Press.
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from America's Cup: Covid-hit businesses 'extremely disappointed' if lucrative event hocked off overseas - NZ Herald
Team New Zealand denied the report when contacted by NZME, and are set to announce the official decision on the host on Thursday, alongside the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron.
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"We've invested huge amounts of taxpayers' money into infrastructure, we've invested huge amounts of money over decades into the event, and we should have protected ourselves better than to put ourselves at the hand of other event managers and other countries.
"Most New Zealanders feel that they have some ownership of this, and they had a right to it not just being put out to market to the highest bidder."
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An Auckland Unlimited spokesperson said Emirates Team New Zealand had a lease to occupy the Viaduct Events Centre until the date of completion of the 37th America's Cup.
"However there is a rent review, effective March 1, 2022, and is currently under discussion," they said.
Team New Zealand denied the report when contacted by NZME, and are set to announce the official decision on the host on Thursday, alongside the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron.
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"We've invested huge amounts of taxpayers' money into infrastructure, we've invested huge amounts of money over decades into the event, and we should have protected ourselves better than to put ourselves at the hand of other event managers and other countries.
"Most New Zealanders feel that they have some ownership of this, and they had a right to it not just being put out to market to the highest bidder."
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An Auckland Unlimited spokesperson said Emirates Team New Zealand had a lease to occupy the Viaduct Events Centre until the date of completion of the 37th America's Cup.
"However there is a rent review, effective March 1, 2022, and is currently under discussion," they said.
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floater
Super Duper Anarchist
TNZ is going to endure a lot of bad press, bad feelings, FU's, etc over all this back at home. They have always advertised themselves in a very nationalistic way but then abandoned defending in New Zealand, it's a bad look. There will be a lot less local press coverage of AC37 than during previous AC defenses there too, obviously.
Otoh, more casual fans will tune in late at night for during the Match regardless of where it is held and AC37 will for dang sure have much bigger media coverage in other parts of the world this time.
It's also a reasonable bet that, given how TNZ is taking all this Spanish money to add to the probably-still considerable sponsorship from the likes of Emirates, Omega, Toyota and who knows who else will sign up, that they will be extremely well-funded for AC37 and so should be more than 'poor-underdog-kiwi doing it with whatever the fabled line is about clever Kiwi ingenuity and 'duct tape and number 8 bailing wire' bullshit, they will be financially very competitive - so that's a fable they will also need to abandon if they will get honest about it being about Big Business and Profits over anything else.
I'm sure the Challengers will be pretty happy with this choice for a number of reasons but there could be some devils in the details, for instance if Team Barcelona gets a prime-spot Taj Mahal base gifted to them while the others have to pay massive sums to rent inferior spaces and then also build that infrastructure - with some of those funds maybe even going indirectly into GD's coffers too. On top of the hefty entry fees already being sucked up.
Along those lines, the Host Venue Agreement could be interesting, including about if there will be Spanish oversight about how some of the E70M gets directed, who all makes facilities decisions, who does the audits, etc.
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I like AirBnB type rentals but here's a pic of hotel locations, #14 thru #19 could all work nicely. The Protocol gives some late date for by when Team Barcelona has to declare the exact Match dates but it's possible the dates will get announced here imminently and there will be a rush for hotel-space given how B is already booked out especially during summers.
dogwatch
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dg_sailingfan
Super Anarchist
They will bitch about everything they can bitch about.
The last time I was able to attend America's Cup Racing was in Valencia 2007 and that was a spectacular Show that was put on.
If Barcelona Officials & Emirates Team New Zealand can pull off something similar we are in for quite a ride.
Barcelona may actually increase the chances we get a couple more Teams involved beyond the 4 Superteams INEOS Britannia, Alinghi Red Bull Racing, Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli and American Magic.
Sailbydate
Super Anarchist
Yeah...well. The veracity of 'solid facts' are only as good as their indisputable evidence. ;-) In Riddle's case, well... ;-)
I attended AC32 Valencia for a couple weeks and by far the biggest foreign crowd was in the 'The Shed' behind the ETNZ base, full of NZers - most of them expats living in Europe.
There was enormous daily attendance (gate entrance was free) by local families with strollers and such but few of them seemed to care much about the actual sailing competition despite ESP having Desafio Espanol in it. If the Barcelona events org puts up an attractive area to walk around we could see big, casual crowds there too.
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Forourselves
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The article above says 72 - dickhead. 5th paragraph down. Barcelona will have to pay 72 mil in guarantees. When Dalton qoted 200 million it was dollars not Euros. Of which they were prepared to raise 80 themselves.
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Sea Breeze 74
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Cork 100% gone
"Overnight, Irish ministers Catherine Martin and Jack Chambers made the announcement not to proceed further in the bidding process"
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-barcelona-spain-confirmed-as-next-host-as-ireland-pull-out-reports/2D5HX7KACOUMC2JPHC55ZMUZ5Q/
America's Cup: Barcelona, Spain, confirmed as next host as Ireland pull out - reports
Spanish media is reporting the next America's Cup has been signed off for Barcelona to take over the hosting duties from Auckland, after the Irish city Cork withdrew from consideration.
According to reports in Spain, Catalan business minister Roger Torrent confirmed the agreement in an interview with Catalunya Ràdio radio station overnight.
"The America's Cup is a very important brand," Torrent said. Hosting the event would bring a huge return on investment, he added, highlighting the event's high standing, especially in markets such as the United States.
The official decision on the host is set to be announced by Team New Zealand and the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron on Thursday.
Team New Zealand successfully defended the Auld Mug last year with a 7-3 victory over Luna Rossa and then rejected a $99 million bid from the New Zealand Government and Auckland Council to host the next America's Cup, meaning the event looked likely to be hosted abroad.
A four-city shortlist includes Barcelona, fellow Spanish city Malaga, Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and Cork.
Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton was last week in Barcelona - Spain's second-largest city and capital of the Catalonia region - to view facilities ahead of the defenders' decision.
"New Zealand badly needed a local defence of the Cup after the ravages of Covid on its once-thriving tourist industry," a sailing source told NZME.
"Yes, America's Cup trophy sits for the time being in a New Zealand yacht club trophy cabinet, but is there really any point if the America's Cup is only now to be pimped around the world?"
"To my many friends in Spain, please understand that for most New Zealanders, it is to us akin to Spain winning the Football World Cup coupled with hosting rights for the next competition, then the Spanish Football Federation selling the event to say, Australia."
Overnight, Irish ministers Catherine Martin and Jack Chambers made the announcement not to proceed further in the bidding process.
"The assessment provided is that, while Cork Harbour is potentially a great venue for the event, based on the technical assessment carried out the necessary infrastructural and planning arrangements would not be in place to host the event in 2024," a statement said.
"An event of the calibre of the America's Cup brings with it an expectation of excellent delivery; the tight timeframe available prior to the 37th edition of the Cup brought with it a large risk of under-delivery."
The statement by the Irish ministers said 'the considerable amount of expenditure' to host the event was taken into account.
"The Ministers recognise that hosting such an event would have brought positives for tourism in Cork and the wider region and are committed to providing strong support to the tourism sector to rebuild as quickly as possible.
"However, it is also recognised that a very considerable amount of expenditure would have been required to deliver the event at a time of major and growing demands on the Exchequer and this had to be taken into account in arriving at a decision.
"The Ministers would like to acknowledge the very positive engagement with Team New Zealand/Origin Sports since this assessment process commenced, and to extend their best wishes to Team New Zealand for the 37th edition of the America's Cup."
"Overnight, Irish ministers Catherine Martin and Jack Chambers made the announcement not to proceed further in the bidding process"
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-barcelona-spain-confirmed-as-next-host-as-ireland-pull-out-reports/2D5HX7KACOUMC2JPHC55ZMUZ5Q/
America's Cup: Barcelona, Spain, confirmed as next host as Ireland pull out - reports
Spanish media is reporting the next America's Cup has been signed off for Barcelona to take over the hosting duties from Auckland, after the Irish city Cork withdrew from consideration.
According to reports in Spain, Catalan business minister Roger Torrent confirmed the agreement in an interview with Catalunya Ràdio radio station overnight.
"The America's Cup is a very important brand," Torrent said. Hosting the event would bring a huge return on investment, he added, highlighting the event's high standing, especially in markets such as the United States.
The official decision on the host is set to be announced by Team New Zealand and the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron on Thursday.
Team New Zealand successfully defended the Auld Mug last year with a 7-3 victory over Luna Rossa and then rejected a $99 million bid from the New Zealand Government and Auckland Council to host the next America's Cup, meaning the event looked likely to be hosted abroad.
A four-city shortlist includes Barcelona, fellow Spanish city Malaga, Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and Cork.
Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton was last week in Barcelona - Spain's second-largest city and capital of the Catalonia region - to view facilities ahead of the defenders' decision.
"New Zealand badly needed a local defence of the Cup after the ravages of Covid on its once-thriving tourist industry," a sailing source told NZME.
"Yes, America's Cup trophy sits for the time being in a New Zealand yacht club trophy cabinet, but is there really any point if the America's Cup is only now to be pimped around the world?"
"To my many friends in Spain, please understand that for most New Zealanders, it is to us akin to Spain winning the Football World Cup coupled with hosting rights for the next competition, then the Spanish Football Federation selling the event to say, Australia."
Overnight, Irish ministers Catherine Martin and Jack Chambers made the announcement not to proceed further in the bidding process.
"The assessment provided is that, while Cork Harbour is potentially a great venue for the event, based on the technical assessment carried out the necessary infrastructural and planning arrangements would not be in place to host the event in 2024," a statement said.
"An event of the calibre of the America's Cup brings with it an expectation of excellent delivery; the tight timeframe available prior to the 37th edition of the Cup brought with it a large risk of under-delivery."
The statement by the Irish ministers said 'the considerable amount of expenditure' to host the event was taken into account.
"The Ministers recognise that hosting such an event would have brought positives for tourism in Cork and the wider region and are committed to providing strong support to the tourism sector to rebuild as quickly as possible.
"However, it is also recognised that a very considerable amount of expenditure would have been required to deliver the event at a time of major and growing demands on the Exchequer and this had to be taken into account in arriving at a decision.
"The Ministers would like to acknowledge the very positive engagement with Team New Zealand/Origin Sports since this assessment process commenced, and to extend their best wishes to Team New Zealand for the 37th edition of the America's Cup."
Forourselves
Super Anarchist
Lol you dont even know whats been offered. Youre just hoping and preying its not so you have something… anything to cling to to bitch about lol
dg_sailingfan
Super Anarchist
You don't know how much Private money is involved in the Barcelona Bid, do you?
Do us a favour and stay quiet!
Sea Breeze 74
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If what we're hearing is correct, GD will have to package the venue announcement very carefully as there will be some understandable backlash from the NZ public. Perhaps an AC40 series event in Auckland?
Contrary to some of the views on these forums, NZ will come around eventually, and I'd imagine strong support by the time the cup kicks off in 2024.
Contrary to some of the views on these forums, NZ will come around eventually, and I'd imagine strong support by the time the cup kicks off in 2024.
