Barcelona AC37

[Stingray~]

at The attractiveness of the port-city proposal, claim to attract the America's Cup to Barcelona - El Canal Marítimo y Logístico (www-diarioelcanal-com.translate.goog)

Although the breakdown of the investment will be made public in the coming weeks, the institutions present at the presentation act have advanced that, of this disbursement, 25 million euros will come from the private sector (composed of companies, associations and individual entrepreneurs), which will act as economic guarantee.

There may be no issues with the financing but since TE is querying the situation, and some Spanish journos appear in the dark too, from another one: The Generalitat and the City Council put the cost of the America's Cup sailing in Barcelona at 70 million (www-eldiario-es.translate.goog)

The City Council and the Generalitat have not specified for now how the expense will be distributed between the public and private sectors, nor to what specific concepts the investment will be allocated beyond the fact that a part will go to the canon that the organizers of the competition ask the city that houses it. The Government has not revealed its contribution and ensures that it will give details in a presentation in the coming days. The first deputy mayor, Jaume Collboni, has indicated that the private sector will provide guarantees worth around 25 million.

 

[Forourselves]

There may be no issues with the financing but since TE is querying the situation, and some Spanish journos appear in the dark too, from another one: The Generalitat and the City Council put the cost of the America's Cup sailing in Barcelona at 70 million (www-eldiario-es.translate.goog)

The City Council and the Generalitat have not specified for now how the expense will be distributed between the public and private sectors, nor to what specific concepts the investment will be allocated beyond the fact that a part will go to the canon that the organizers of the competition ask the city that houses it. The Government has not revealed its contribution and ensures that it will give details in a presentation in the coming days. The first deputy mayor, Jaume Collboni, has indicated that the private sector will provide guarantees worth around 25 million.

Who cares about the breakdown? Only Barcelona government officials need to know the cost breakdown. TE is only interested because Dalton made him look like a fool with no credibility. What business is it of Tom Ehmans to know the cost breakdown of the Americas Cup?

 

[Gissie]

I expect there will be quite a bit of backlash over the next few weeks and then most of the public will forget about it leaving just us sad bastards to argue over every snippet of AC news.

This happens every cycle but when the actual event rears it's head in 2024 there will be plenty of kiwi support.

Be interesting to see how it pans out.

Will be a difficult sell. No real presence in Kiwi during the build up. No way to claim the idea is to bring it home.

The reality is does the team even need NZ any more? They have become a self funding pro team. It would be better for them to ditch the direct NZ link and aim for a more varied fan base around the world. NZ is more of a hindrance to the direction Dalton wants to take the event.

 

[Sailbydate]

They are, of course, quietly stoked. This way they get to claim they did all they could but don't actually have to pony up any cash.

They also get to promote NZ to a global business community in a world city while someone else pays the bills. Just wait 'till 2024, the NZ government will be donkey deep in Spain.

Of course you're right, SB. And if TNZ need  a bit of a top up in 2023/2024, they may even pony up for a bit of tax-payer cash. Nothing quite like being on the right side of a (winning?) sporting contest.

 

[Sailbydate]

Looking forward to hearing what the, Challengers all think of the venue. Gotta be more affordable than, Auckland for them all. (Except, Australia of course. But then they're not up to an AC Challenge these days anyway?!)

 

[Stingray~]

Looking forward to hearing what the Challengers all think of the venue.

Agree, it's been pretty quiet aside from the BA statements in the official presser from ETNZ. GD said in one report he had received a text msg from Ratcliffe congratulating him on the deal. 

You'd think the other Challs will be happy enough even if they had preferred Auckland and they must surely have an interest in promoting the event wherever (outside Jeddah) it was going to be. Alinghi and LR must love the Med, AM races in series there too. I could see Alinghi setting up in Barcelona asap.

 

[Stingray~]

Looking forward to hearing what the, Challengers all think of the venue. 

Here's one

Max Sirena, Skipper and Team Director of the Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli team declared: “Barcelona will be a fantastic venue for an event as important as the America’s Cup. We are delighted that the Cup will return to Europe and that we can now confirm a detailed program for an optimal preparation of our challenge. We can’t wait to be there in 2024”.

 

[Stingray~]

from AM at here

Newport, R.I.  –  Emirates Team New Zealand and the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron announced Barcelona, in the region of Catalonia, as the Host Venue for the 37th America’s Cup to be held in September and October of 2024.

“We are thrilled with the Defender’s selection of Barcelona for the 37th America’s Cup,” said Terry Hutchinson, Skipper and President of Sailing Operations for New York Yacht Club American Magic. “As a team we are focused on understanding the changes of the class rule for AC37 and developing our next generation AC75. Knowing the venue now allows for a more detailed look at both wind and sea state conditions optimizing for Barcelona. Operationally we look forward to being back on the water later in 2022.”

 

[Kiwing]

Stingers have you booked your suite in that hotel yet?

 

[Stingray~]

Stingers have you booked your suite in that hotel yet?

At almost $500 per night? Ha, nah, will pass on that. But there's a good chance I will rent something with 2 or 3 bedrooms a few blocks up from the waterfront and maybe in the Gothic Quarter, for a month during especially the CSS to be able to see all the Challs once we have better dates. There are ferries running to cool places like Mallorca for people to enjoy side trips.

 

[Stingray~]

From a couple different gtran'd sites today, maybe someone would like to try Map these possibilities?

The technical bases for the next edition of the Copa América will be distributed throughout the port, specifically in Port Vell. In this way, two bases will be located in the MB92 area and in the Barcelona Nàutic Center area, respectively. In addition, there will be a third located in the old Cinesa cinemas, and also another located in the Grimaldi group terminal, on the Costa pier, as well as in the old Imax cinema building, whose demolition will be delayed and which will house the Emirates Team base New Zealand. Similarly, the Moll de la Fusta will also have spaces and activities to promote the competition that will be open to the public.

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Port of Barcelona: five locations


For his part, the president of the Barcelona Port Authority, Damià Calvet , has specified that the Copa América Barcelona 2024 will have five venues, one for the team, which will be at Marina Barcelona 92, the Náutic Center, the Grimaldi terminal in the dock commercial and an area called Cinesa-Imax, in which the base of operations of Team New Zealand, organizer, will be set up with the help of an annex. 

 

[pwormwood]

So, TNZ created a boat that is too expensive for them to be able to afford to design, build and sail with the funds available in New Zealad.  Rather than dial back the design to something affordable for the Nation' s suporters, they are blaming New Zealand's lack of financial support for taking the Cup offshore.  Well, I guess another New Zealander, Russel, started it with Bermuda....

 

[Horn Rock]

Amateur, New Zealand politicians - disappointing.

Cringe from Goff. I agree with Gladewell's take, the NZ Govt never put in a serious offer - 30mill was a joke.

Dalt's main sponsors will be stoked about the venue.

As a Kiwi, of course I'm a little sad it couldn't be in NZ, but the financial realities are what they are. The event in Barca will be a cracker, and I will be fully behind my team.

 

[Gissie]

Cringe from Goff. I agree with Gladewell's take, the NZ Govt never put in a serious offer - 30mill was a joke.

Dalt's main sponsors will be stoked about the venue.

As a Kiwi, of course I'm a little sad it couldn't be in NZ, but the financial realities are what they are. The event in Barca will be a cracker, and I will be fully behind my team.

True, they should have offered the full 99mill and charged market rates for all the free services that were included.

Then at least idiots could have been able to understand how sponsorship works.

 

[Stingray~]

 

[Horn Rock]

Then at least idiots could have been able to understand how sponsorship works.

Dalton understands sponsors better than anyone. He has delivered for his main sponsors - the corps that have been loyal to him for many years. It may come as a surprise to some, but NZers, and the NZ Govt are not his main sponsors.

 

[Stingray~]

For the annoying little puppy ankle-biters, here's a clip from TE's show today

 

[j80evelt]

So, TNZ created a boat that is too expensive for them to be able to afford to design, build and sail with the funds available in New Zealad.  Rather than dial back the design to something affordable for the Nation' s suporters, they are blaming New Zealand's lack of financial support for taking the Cup offshore.  Well, I guess another New Zealander, Russel, started it with Bermuda....

So, TNZ created a boat that is too expensive for them to be able to afford to design, build and sail with the funds available in New Zealad.  Rather than dial back the design to something affordable for the Nation' s suporters, they are blaming New Zealand's lack of financial support for taking the Cup offshore.  Well, I guess another New Zealander, Russel, started it with Bermuda....

Interesting perspective. Your implied approach would have likely reopened the AC to mere mortals a la Valencia - which, while the bleeding edge advocates would belittle, most traditional sailors would welcome.

 

[Horn Rock]

A large crewed "traditional" yacht wouldn't be much cheaper, if at all. Teams would still be spending 100mill+.

As Ainslie said, what failed them last time was their design tools - namely the simulator. New teams have to get up to speed in that area. 

 

[dogwatch]

So, TNZ created a boat that is too expensive for them to be able to afford to design, build and sail with the funds available in New Zealad.  Rather than dial back the design to something affordable for the Nation' s suporters, they are blaming New Zealand's lack of financial support for taking the Cup offshore.  Well, I guess another New Zealander, Russel, started it with Bermuda....

You cheerfully assume they were free to do so. The CoR gets a say too. So, having ponied up an entry fee, do the other challengers. The protocol is a contract and says AC75, not some design that can be whimsically changed.