Forourselves
Super Anarchist
You're the one asking guys how many times a day they jerk off, now you're talking about Daddy issues and dominatrix? Thats enough internet for you today.
Barcelona AC37
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Had a first meeting with a guy two days ago. After business was completed sailing came up. He immediately expressed his disappointment with the team leaving and how his support was gone forever. Claimed his sailing friends felt the same.
I think this will be a common reaction. I also think Shoebridge is dreaming if he thinks that this will magically turn around in the future.
Once branded a turncoat it is hard to shake off. Just ask Coutts.
I think this will be a common reaction. I also think Shoebridge is dreaming if he thinks that this will magically turn around in the future.
Once branded a turncoat it is hard to shake off. Just ask Coutts.
floater
Towards thee I roll..
whoa, and just so everyone knows. zippy here thinks ukraine is a russian 'internal affair'.
and. for what it's worth. I had no idea Catalonia felt so (dramatically) separate from Spain.
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floater
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it baffles me how sailby thinks Auckland is going to throw a ticker tape parade for these guys.
I mean. perhaps I don't understand Kiwis. the most I've met we're also spectating at the AC. and a few others here and there. they seemed like pretty normal people. which means. no parades. definitely not. lol.
Some support will remain; maybe we can look at NZ viewership numbers next time and compare them to last time, to see the difference. For sure the buildup happening in Barcelona will receive a great deal less attention from Kiwis, compared to when the teams and yachts were building up right there in Auckland starting in around October for the March Match.
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slug zitski
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Climb back in your hole bottom feeder , your ignorant keyboard diarrhea pollutes sailing threads
slug zitski
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Europeans are keen sailors , I would imagine that Barcelona will be a winner for sponsorship, attendance and viewers
the economy in Spain was hurt by the Covid mess, the AC will help them get back on the road
I see no reason to not include a little discussion about Spanish politics in this forum, it has some relevance and some interest - where's the harm? My very basic take on things so far is that yes, Spain like other countries got hit hard but they (like maybe other EU countries) are receiving some EU help to recover. Specific to Barcelona there are a whole bunch of projects now moving ahead and, like with the AC bid too at the very last minute, there is an unusual amount cooperation between the two main political parties there, the Socialists and the PP, on what to fund. All good.
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I could be wrong, but I believe the cooperation is between the central government socialists and the local Catalan faction.
In Malaga the local PP was rebuffed by the central government even on the comparatively minor issue of the 15-20 M€ infrastructure works
In Malaga the local PP was rebuffed by the central government even on the comparatively minor issue of the 15-20 M€ infrastructure works
Two Puigs are mentioned in this decent article
America's Cup: this is how Barcelona achieved the great regatta (www-lavanguardia-com.translate.goog)
Interview with Luis Sáenz Mariscal
The impact of the Copa América, estimated at 40,000 jobs and 1,500 million (www-sport-es.translate.goog)
The impact of the Copa América, estimated at 40,000 jobs and 1,500 million (www-sport-es.translate.goog)
slug zitski
Super Anarchist
I have decades of experience working and sailing in Spain
the Catalans are well educated and very capable of organization , promotion
simply review the Barcelona Olympics
Concerning Spain’s complex internal politics, languages , culture and history , as an outsider I stay away from offering opinions
While not offering opinions about what parties I might vote for, I find the subject interesting enough since it's mostly new to me and a I am curious about a wide variety of AC-related subjects.
Since the Barcelona decision is the big news lately, here's another article that describes the 'flavor' around how it (yes, surprisingly and at the last minute) came together. From Colau's occurrences irritate the PSC: "The mayor is out of focus, in a loop" (www-elconfidencial-com.translate.goog)
The presentation this week of the Copa de Vela América is another example of the divorce between commoners and socialists. Those of Ada Colau do not even want to hear about it, although it was presented to great fanfare by the mayor, accompanied by Collboni and the 'president' Pere Aragonès . Colau, they say, bite the bullet, because days before she still denied the event . "Nobody knows what she had to fight to get the Cup to come to Barcelona, because she was always opposed to it coming . The common people say that she is not their role model and they don't want events of this caliber ," he tells El Confidencial an internal source of the consistory.
But, although it was all the work of the PSC (the negotiations were led by Collboni himself, since it was the Economy area that took charge of the matter), in the end it turned out to be Ada Colau who scored the goal against the Barcelonans. "Barcelona is a candidate to host the Copa América de Vela 2024, the oldest international competition in the world and one of the most important, with a great media and economic impact," she published on her personal Telegram account before anyone else .
He related that after "weeks of talks, today I have met , accompanied by the deputy mayor Jordi Martí , with members of the organizing committee, headed by Grant Dalton ". She was the character that shortly before I did not want to know anything about. In reality, she dispensed with the government partner to capitalize on the matter and met, along with her trusted personal, with the organizers of the event, publishing two photos of the meeting on her account. She did not mention Jaume Collboni even once .
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dogwatch
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I've no objection in theory to having the discussion but we are talking about the intersection of the politics of Barcelona city, Catalonia and Spain, plus the political parties involved, plus various business groups. I think the chances of anyone here correctly interpreting events are not very good. Presumably the author of that piece and the newspaper publishing it also have an agenda, which we don't understand.
There seems to be a reference in that piece to something I have been banging on about, which is why Barcelona is doing this when most local opinion considers the city over-touristed already i.e. "another example of the divorce between commoners and socialists"?
floater
Towards thee I roll..
of course.
think I'm closer to understanding how the hydraulics operate inside a wing mast. and I honestly don't understand that at all. lol.
that's pretty rich - coming from you. but then again. just where does your allegiance lie?
floater
Towards thee I roll..
oh my. touched a nerve did I. lol.
been hearing things aren't going so well for your team rn zippy. shame.
From the outside, one thing is clear: Barcelona was not viable, mainly because of the strong, ideological opposition of mayor Ada Colau reflecting the opinion of the local populace. And then at the last minute, for reasons unknown, she switched sides and the whole thing gelled
Talk about GD snatching victory from the jaws of defeat ...
Talk about GD snatching victory from the jaws of defeat ...
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It’s not complicated: at the national level, PP and socialists are more or less evenly matched. In order to stay in power, the socialists need the support of the locally strong Catalan autonomists/independentists
Agreed, and it's made clear in many of the articles. Was a big surprise when Colau signed on and this came together.
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