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JeronimoII

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Today I stumbled accross this...

That means all the Ocean Race content will almost certainly be available on Discovery Outlets & EUROSPORT. I was begging for this to happen.

So folks, if AC37 wants to have a really good Event they need to do the same thing. They need a BIG EUROPEAN TV DEAL and not just tiny TVE in Spain.

Maybe Warner Bros Discovery does the same thing for AC37? It would certainly be a good thing and there is most definitly a void to fill for them after the 2024 Paris Olympics.
I certainly hope you are right, but I fear is wishful thinking. Starts and inports with 5 boats and crew hidden in cockpits doesn’t make good live TV. Documentaries afterwards could work, though
 

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Back when Barcelona was announced I posted about booking an apartment with a balcony that faced across the marina towards what are now the Ineos and Alinghi team bases, for 2 weeks in Sept '24. Looked plenty nice. Yesterday I got a cancellation notice from VRBO and a full refund is coming. I contacted the 'host' Carlos and he explained that he had encountered a problem with the city, over the rental license. Okay, was disappointed but understood - many cities are cracking down on BnB's and such because of problems they create in local housing markets.

Today I glanced at some alternatives (not many allow you to book 2 years out) and found a promising one, but this time on AirBnB and advertised for twice the price. It is the same dang apartment! Crooks..... :)
 
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Are you going to take it??😄
Isn't carlos the guy you sent video of the Luna Rossa base and surrounds too?
The one you had a good rapport with.

Good luck finding a new apartment...
Maybe american magic can help
Locals on the ground, that kind of thing
 
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Stingray~

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Are you going to take it??😄
Isn't carlos the guy you sent video of the Luna Rossa base and surrounds too?
The one you had a good rapport with.

Good luck finding a new apartment...
Maybe american magic can help
Locals on the ground, that kind of thing
Ha, ha, nope, not going to deal with this Carlos again and no, never sent him any videos? Funny, I did contact him to ask about why the same dang thing is available at twice the price, silence so far :)

Thanks, am sure I will find a replacement once the calendars open up better - maybe something on the nice-looking beachfront instead. While the AC proper will likely get expensive, going for the CSS when all the Challs are still racing should surely be less of a crush.
 

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Ha, ha, nope, not going to deal with this Carlos again and no, never sent him any videos? Funny, I did contact him to ask about why the same dang thing is available at twice the price, silence so far :)

Thanks, am sure I will find a replacement once the calendars open up better - maybe something on the nice-looking beachfront instead. While the AC proper will likely get expensive, going for the CSS when all the Challs are still racing should surely be less of a crush.
must be nice having such blinkers on regarding TE. He banged on and on and on about the wind in Barcelona, almost as much as he did about his belief that the Cup would actually end up in Auckland. Both are wrong, among many others.
 

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Back when Barcelona was announced I posted about booking an apartment with a balcony that faced across the marina towards what are now the Ineos and Alinghi team bases, for 2 weeks in Sept '24. Looked plenty nice. Yesterday I got a cancellation notice from VRBO and a full refund is coming. I contacted the 'host' Carlos and he explained that he had encountered a problem with the city, over the rental license. ....

Today I glanced at some alternatives (not many allow you to book 2 years out) and found a promising one, but this time on AirBnB and advertised for twice the price. It is the same dang apartment! Crooks..... :)

Bummer. Similar shenanigans are going on with AirBnB bookings coinciding with the staging of Eurovision in Liverpool. For anyone who doesn't know about Eurovision, ignorance is bliss.
 

shebeen

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Back when Barcelona was announced I posted about booking an apartment with a balcony that faced across the marina towards what are now the Ineos and Alinghi team bases, for 2 weeks in Sept '24. Looked plenty nice. Yesterday I got a cancellation notice from VRBO and a full refund is coming. I contacted the 'host' Carlos and he explained that he had encountered a problem with the city, over the rental license. Okay, was disappointed but understood - many cities are cracking down on BnB's and such because of problems they create in local housing markets.

Today I glanced at some alternatives (not many allow you to book 2 years out) and found a promising one, but this time on AirBnB and advertised for twice the price. It is the same dang apartment! Crooks..... :)
You might have actually had some recourse through Airbnb if the original rental was on their system too.

on their side i guess there oculd be "scalpers" securing an apartment and then subletting it at a higher price too.

In the end, in a free market something is worth what someone wants to pay for it. but it's not nice when a contract thrown out the window unethically as in this case.
 

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You might have actually had some recourse through Airbnb if the original rental was on their system too.

on their side i guess there oculd be "scalpers" securing an apartment and then subletting it at a higher price too.

In the end, in a free market something is worth what someone wants to pay for it. but it's not nice when a contract thrown out the window unethically as in this case.
While the apartment does still show on VRBO it is not bookable, apparently the calendar has gone inactive. For me, anyway.. The (paid for) agreement was for iirc $215/nt, plenty reasonable. The new price on AirBnB is $460/nt, which is completely ridiculous for what the little place is, and listed under the same name as it was on VRBO. At that price you can get a palatial 3BR/3BA apt right on Piazza Navona in Rome, there's just no way he will that amount! There are places in the nearby Gothic Quarter available and priced reasonably but since this is AC fun it'd be cool to have a water view of some kind, closer to the action.
 

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Fwiw, and yes I will let it go now.. Catalonia!

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Radio silence.......
 

Stingray~

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Ha :) Am letting it go.... There are plenty of hotels to book and places to rent, big city, easy flight and rail connections, all good.
 

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On the sporting front, the Show also hosted the presentation of the America’s Cup to be held in Barcelona waters in 2024, with the participation of the New Zealand organising team and the visit of members of the Swiss team Alinghi, who are already training in the Catalan capital.
 

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Ha :) Am letting it go.... There are plenty of hotels to book and places to rent, big city, easy flight and rail connections, all good.
Found another apt on AirBnB for the same 2 weeks. Smaller but a good placeholder and with the exact same view and a bigger kitchen fridge, for a third the price that idiot Carlos is now asking :)
 

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America's Cup goes to the market as Prada squeezed out

Duncan Johnstone05:00, Oct 23 2022

The America’s Cup is looking for new sponsors after Italian fashion giant Prada was squeezed out of the next regatta in Barcelona in 2024.

The decision by Prada ends an acrimonious period between the Italian syndicate Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli and Cup champions Emirates Team New Zealand.

But the Kiwis see huge benefit in a new multi-level Olympics-type sponsorship setup for the Cup’s return to the European market they believe could allow them to fully fund the team and the event.

The new arrangement will see separate sponsorships for the Match, the challenger series, the hydrogen chase boat project, the youth and women’s America’s Cups, an E-Sport championship, and an America’s Cup tour of the Catalonia region, as well as a category of global sponsorships.

“We have completely re-engineered our sponsorship model since Auckland. That model was based on the relationship around the Prada domination of all properties, it was broken and needed a new approach,” Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton told Stuff.


“The sum of the parts will be more beneficial than the individual part as we work towards funding the event and the team in the hope of a successful defence.”

There’s a long history between the two teams. The Kiwis backed Luna Rossa’s unexpected decision to pull out of America’s Cup in Bermuda when holders Oracle Team USA, with Sir Russell Coutts in charge, made a dramatic boat design change midway through the 2017 cycle.

As a result of Team New Zealand’s backing of Luna Rossa, Oracle then reneged on a deal to stage the opening round of the Louis Vuitton challenger series in Auckland before transferring the regatta to Bermuda. The New Zealand Government immediately pulled the promised funding from the team which put the campaign and the team’s existence on the ropes.

In an arrangement between Dalton and Prada chief executive, billionaire Patrizio Bertelli who is Luna’s Rossa’s syndicate boss, the Italians loaned the Kiwis their one-design AC50, a chase boat and financial assistance, much of which was repaid.

The payback for the Italians was the challenger of record status if Team New Zealand won in Bermuda and also that Prada would become the event naming sponsor at a pre-agreed amount.

That duly played out, but Prada’s influence across their team, as challenger of record, the Prada Cup event organiser, and overall event sponsor were heavily conflicted over Auckland 2021. The relationship unravelled with 17 arbitration cases as the Italians became litigious with Team New Zealand.

Not only did they get to replace Louis Vuitton as sponsor of the challenger series for the Prada Cup, but they also got naming rights for the whole show with their tag “The America’s Cup Presented by Prada” dominating. It became a turn-off to other sponsors, especially those aligned with luxury brands.

“We were compromised in every direction, everything had to carry the word Prada,” Dalton said.

“It was very difficult to sell sponsorship for the last event because of this stranglehold they had. There was no way we intended to go down that path after AC36.”

Prada’s influence even extended to other areas like the media centre which reached a crunch point after Luna Rossa’s challenger series win over INEOS Team UK when they attempted to block the vanquished British skipper Sir Ben Ainslie from attending the press conference in a heated exchange.

Team New Zealand’s response has been to tweak the Protocol for AC37, insisting that “any sponsor that is a naming right sponsor of the event cannot be a naming right sponsor of a team, without an exemption from the event authority”.

The Italians, who had a right of renewal on similar terms for a deal of around $9m with Team New Zealand were squeezed and opted out of the event sponsorship game.

Bertelli had a sign-off message to the Kiwis when he confirmed to La Stampa last week their Cup sponsorship was finished: “They treated us too badly in Auckland. We certainly did not go there as enemies, even if we are antagonists in the water. Instead, they treated us as such."

Dalton confirmed, “We most certainly did not start as enemies nor did we wish to become that, but we were told by many sources that a strong directive had been received by Prada, COR and the team to be as disruptive as possible as a tactic to try to destabilise Team New Zealand.”

Dalton described the final dialogue with Luna Rossa as “completely cordial” as Prada decided to back their team rather than the event.

The sponsorship drive started on September 1 and Dalton said there was strong interest.

But he is also a realist: “We have the same problems as the rest of the world … there is a war and there is a recession. It doesn’t get any easier.

“But Barcelona is helping enormously, and it is everything we hoped it would be, it’s amazing.”
 
Opportunity! If you have some spare change.
I could see Toyota and Lorenzo (bg boats) sponsoring the hydrogen project. They're already involved & can probably afford it.
 
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