Bayview Mackinac Thread

[zvikingz]

Fast race, eh? Natalie J kicking ass again....

According to YB they are going 13 knots faster than Equation. No radar reflex in the area...afterburners or glitch?

There have been funny readings like that here and there all day.

 

[coyotepup]

Looks like a couple of boats missed the provision about Ducks to starboard.

 

[ku3kyc]

What did I miss? I checked in to see how Il Mastro was doing to see they never started! WTF? I thought they bought that boat specifically for this race.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

other Mac, next weekend.

Il Mostro, not Il Mastro

 

[MR.CLEAN]

From Joan Watton @ FB

Windquest IN!

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

 

[ku3kyc]

other Mac, next weekend.

Il Mostro, not Il Mastro

Two Macs? Figures. Thanks.

My head hurts.

 

[coyotepup]

Looks like a couple of boats missed the provision about Ducks to starboard.

It appears that someone woke up on one of them.

Nope, still leaving Great Duck to port.

 

[Great_lakes_racer]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

To be fair, Equation has had a string of equipment failures (rudder last year, spreader in St. Martin, some memorable sail explosions) since her re-launch and she's not an easy boat to get up to speed. Rosebud was a full-time, full-pro program when she was winning everything, and it takes a massive effort to keep it going after an ownership change. Still, they'll get her going soon, I think.

Great to see US Carkeek40 #2 going so well. Bear, Shriner, and Guiness have all put a bunch of time in to get her ready and anyone who sails it will have an instant love affair. Good on 'em.

 

[isma]

Clean,

Any news on why Manitou stopped in Tobermory?

 

[Polaris]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

That's not a fair assessment, last year they had a broken rudder, this year they had tactics that had them out of the money. Both NJ and Windquest took huge flyers up to Port Austin before they headed fro Tobermory. Equation was on the rhumb line with a lighter backing breeze. I'm thinking that Windquest sailed a near perfect race and NJ just followed them online.

 

[Chris Q]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

That's not a fair assessment, last year they had a broken rudder, this year they had tactics that had them out of the money. Both NJ and Windquest took huge flyers up to Port Austin before they headed fro Tobermory. Equation was on the rhumb line with a lighter backing breeze. I'm thinking that Windquest sailed a near perfect race and NJ just followed them online.

Your a fuckwit, Windquest jybed to cover Natalie J. NJ had a gameplan to hit the western shore before the race started. Well done Bora, Benj, Phil and team!

 

[Great_lakes_racer]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

That's not a fair assessment, last year they had a broken rudder, this year they had tactics that had them out of the money. Both NJ and Windquest took huge flyers up to Port Austin before they headed fro Tobermory. Equation was on the rhumb line with a lighter backing breeze. I'm thinking that Windquest sailed a near perfect race and NJ just followed them online.

Your a fuckwit, Windquest jybed to cover Natalie J. NJ had a gameplan to hit the western shore before the race started. Well done Bora, Benj, Phil and team!

Christ, didn't mean to stir the pot, was unaware of the unfortunate things that have happened to Equation the last few years. She's a sexy boat and I do hope she can perform well in the "real" mac next week!

 

[Great_lakes_racer]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

To be fair, Equation has had a string of equipment failures (rudder last year, spreader in St. Martin, some memorable sail explosions) since her re-launch and she's not an easy boat to get up to speed. Rosebud was a full-time, full-pro program when she was winning everything, and it takes a massive effort to keep it going after an ownership change. Still, they'll get her going soon, I think.

Great to see US Carkeek40 #2 going so well. Bear, Shriner, and Guiness have all put a bunch of time in to get her ready and anyone who sails it will have an instant love affair. Good on 'em.

Can't wait to see the carkeek 40 in Chicago next weekend. Hopefully they can hold on to beat most of the 70's boat for boat.. currently beating all but 2(Evolution, Stripes) on the tracker. I assume it must feel good to also beat his old boat(Denali N/M 68) not only corrected but also boat for boat... granted it's a MUCH different program now.

 

[Polaris]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

That's not a fair assessment, last year they had a broken rudder, this year they had tactics that had them out of the money. Both NJ and Windquest took huge flyers up to Port Austin before they headed fro Tobermory. Equation was on the rhumb line with a lighter backing breeze. I'm thinking that Windquest sailed a near perfect race and NJ just followed them online.

Your a fuckwit, Windquest jybed to cover Natalie J. NJ had a gameplan to hit the western shore before the race started. Well done Bora, Benj, Phil and team!

No need for a shitfight. This is a family program. Windquest did everything that NJ did, but better, they went further west past the thumb.. The second leg, it looks like all the big boys were following each others tracks. Maybe they were driving the same Expedition program. I'm interested to see how much they correct out over Windquest.

 

[isma]

I'm interested to see how much they correct out over Windquest.

It's posted, just shy of 5.5hrs. It's yachtscoring so the results are up as soon as someone enters the finish time.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

To be fair, Equation has had a string of equipment failures (rudder last year, spreader in St. Martin, some memorable sail explosions) since her re-launch and she's not an easy boat to get up to speed. Rosebud was a full-time, full-pro program when she was winning everything, and it takes a massive effort to keep it going after an ownership change. Still, they'll get her going soon, I think.

Great to see US Carkeek40 #2 going so well. Bear, Shriner, and Guiness have all put a bunch of time in to get her ready and anyone who sails it will have an instant love affair. Good on 'em.

Can't wait to see the carkeek 40 in Chicago next weekend. Hopefully they can hold on to beat most of the 70's boat for boat.. currently beating all but 2(Evolution, Stripes) on the tracker. I assume it must feel good to also beat his old boat(Denali N/M 68) not only corrected but also boat for boat... granted it's a MUCH different program now.

Sort of sick to see the 40 have no problem hanging with the 70s even with so much upwind work, though granted it was pretty light. Based on what I've seen so far, the design really only has two weaknesses relative to the competition; sub-5 knots and over 18 or so on the nose.

If she can hang on for second overall, that will put the Carkeek's record since Decision broke her sprit in St. Thomas that's pretty impressive: Isla Mujeres (PHRF, Decision): 1st in class, 1st overall, and course record; Bermuda (IRC, Decision): 1st in class IRC, and 1st overall IRC in St. David's Lighthouse; Mack (PHRF, Denali): 2nd in class and 2nd overall.

Given how poorly we scored under ORR in the Bermuda Race compared to IRC, Chicago-Mack could be a very different story.

 

[Great_lakes_racer]

Pretty insane to see the NJ hold off Equationbud until 20 NM to the finish. Some pretty sick sailing from Bora and the boys, could easily be another overall win.

NJ has had a wonderful race so far and hopefully with somewhere around 5 miles to go they can hold on for the overall. While on the surface it is very impressive that they were able to hold off Equation for so long... unfortunately we've all begin to recognize Equation as a boat that underperforms. Once again congrats to the boys on NJ as they've sailed a good race so far!

Also, don't forget the boys on denali^2 are doing very well.

To be fair, Equation has had a string of equipment failures (rudder last year, spreader in St. Martin, some memorable sail explosions) since her re-launch and she's not an easy boat to get up to speed. Rosebud was a full-time, full-pro program when she was winning everything, and it takes a massive effort to keep it going after an ownership change. Still, they'll get her going soon, I think.

Great to see US Carkeek40 #2 going so well. Bear, Shriner, and Guiness have all put a bunch of time in to get her ready and anyone who sails it will have an instant love affair. Good on 'em.

Can't wait to see the carkeek 40 in Chicago next weekend. Hopefully they can hold on to beat most of the 70's boat for boat.. currently beating all but 2(Evolution, Stripes) on the tracker. I assume it must feel good to also beat his old boat(Denali N/M 68) not only corrected but also boat for boat... granted it's a MUCH different program now.

Sort of sick to see the 40 have no problem hanging with the 70s even with so much upwind work, though granted it was pretty light. Based on what I've seen so far, the design really only has two weaknesses relative to the competition; sub-5 knots and over 18 or so on the nose.

If she can hang on for second overall, that will put the Carkeek's record since Decision broke her sprit in St. Thomas that's pretty impressive: Isla Mujeres (PHRF, Decision): 1st in class, 1st overall, and course record; Bermuda (IRC, Decision): 1st in class IRC, and 1st overall IRC in St. David's Lighthouse; Mack (PHRF, Denali): 2nd in class and 2nd overall.

Given how poorly we scored under ORR in the Bermuda Race compared to IRC, Chicago-Mack could be a very different story.

That's a pretty good track record, eh? It is sick indeed to see a 40 footer be on pace to be the 6th boat to cross the line in the "other" mac.

Will be very interested to see if Denali^2 can do a little better than Decision in ORR or if it truly does just get crewed in ORR.

 

[Great_lakes_racer]

Also, for the Shore Course it's great to see Epic have another good race in PHRF E.. 1st in class so far, even beating a few of the J/120's! Props to the Adams family as well as Jason and all on board, finish strong!