Biden 2024

badlatitude

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The White House is whispering that next week President Biden will announce his intention to run for a second term, though the polls say that even most Democrats hope he doesn’t. The public understands what Mr. Biden apparently won’t admit: that electing an octogenarian in obvious decline for another four years could be an historic mistake.

No doubt it’s hard to walk away from the Oval Office after working for five decades to get there. Flying Marine One home for the weekends beats Amtrak. The chance to pull the levers of power is intoxicating, and that’s also true for the advisers who have pushed him in such a sharply progressive direction in his first term. They know Mr. Biden will lead wherever they want him to go.


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But asking the country to elect a man who is 80 years old and whose second term would end when he is 86 is a risky act that borders on selfish. It’s impossible to know Mr. Biden’s real physical and mental state because the White House goes to great lengths to hide it. But his decline is clear to anyone who isn’t willfully blind. He rarely holds a press conference, and his words are as scripted as possible to avoid embarrassing stumbles that he nonetheless continues to make.

Different people age at different rates, but the risk of an accelerated decline for Mr. Biden is considerable. The chance that he could serve a full second term is hardly assured.
This means Americans could be voting for his running mate to take over in a second term, which as of now would be Vice President Kamala Harris. Mr. Biden would be running on a vow to serve a complete term that he knows he might not be able to keep. At the very least, he owes the country more than a Rose Garden repeat of his Wilmington basement campaign strategy from 2020.

For Democrats, there’s no small risk that Mr. Biden could decline noticeably in the 19 months until Election Day in 2024. In that event, voters on the fence could swing toward a Republican nominee who can at least meet the rigors of the office. Yes, even Donald Trump.

More at the link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-second-term-mistake-23dd7cbe?reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
 

badlatitude

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I posted this thread to encourage Democrats to think about the best way to continue with the presidency. Let's face it, both Trump and Biden are, at best lukewarm candidates; neither one should be running. Out of 331.9 million people, we should be able to do better.

As it stands, if Biden is the nominee and Trump is the opposing candidate, all we will prove is that we could have done America better
 

billy backstay

Backstay, never bought a suit, never went to Vegas

Don't Look Now, But...​

(Biden is having a pretty effective presidency)​

DAN RATHER
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ELLIOT KIRSCHNER
MAY 31, 2023




Credit: Samuel Corum

Am I getting this right? The same Republicans who spent years castigating President Biden as barely mentally competent now are complaining that he ate Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s lunch in this week’s debt ceiling negotiations? Might one even go so far as to say that “Dark Brandon” understands the “art of the deal” a lot more than the man who preceded him?

Of course Democrats found much to dislike in the compromise bill despite voting aye on it to overcome Republican intransigence and avoid a default on the national debt. It will cut funding for some substantial progressive programs and it certainly is a world away from the budget Democrats would pass if they still held the House majority.

There are also those who argue that Biden, on principle, never should have negotiated in the first place. Instead, the thinking goes, he should have used dramatic unilateral actions like the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional.

But once the Democrats lost the House in the 2022 midterms, some sort of showdown was inevitable. And now Biden has used the brinkmanship to outmaneuver his adversaries and largely clear the next two years of his presidency of budgetary and debt fights. He’s come out stronger and the Republican caucus is turning on itself. That’s a win for him, both substantively and politically — a pretty big win at that.

Meanwhile, one can hope that if (and when) Democrats resume control of Congress and the presidency, changing the current debt limit foolishness will be a top priority (along with things such as the filibuster).

But let’s try to step back from this particular moment and see a broader picture. We are now almost two and a half years into the Biden administration and the conventional wisdom is that he is a weakened president. He is portrayed as old, tired, uninspirational, and only moderately effective. Many speculate that he still might be favored to beat Trump or DeSantis, but that’s mainly because, as the guessing goes, people will vote against them rather than for him.

According to poll numbers, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of enthusiasm for Biden even among Democrats, let alone Republicans or independents. But one wonders what exactly is going on. Inflation is decreasing while the job market remains hot. At the same time Biden has achieved a remarkable number of legislative wins during the course of his term in office. And many of those are monumental accomplishments. For example, his climate measures are outperforming even the most optimistic predictions notwithstanding the concessions on a major pipeline. Oh, and he has also strengthened NATO and stood by Ukraine in the war against Russia.

One thing you learn covering Washington is that the place is incredibly insular and tends to tally success by who dominates each daily, or even the nanosecond, news cycle. But that is not how administrations are judged by history. Daily ephemera are quickly forgotten. Even weeks-long dramas over horse trading and sausage making fade soon after the votes are taken.

Presidents tend to be measured by the sweep of their accomplishments. And by that metric, the early verdict sure looks like Biden is in the midst of a very substantial, if not, indeed, consequential presidency. It’s only more notable when you consider the margins he has had to contend with in Congress.

For all the talk of Democrats being in disarray, it is the Republicans who are now in revolt. When it comes to measuring results — including in the 2022 midterms — MAGA nihilism has repeatedly crashed against the rocky shoals of Biden’s pragmatism.

A lot can still go wrong before the next election. The duration between now and November 2024 represents several eternities in politics. If Biden were to lose, his entire legacy would be rewritten. But as of right now, he has shown an ability to regularly play the hands he’s dealt with cunning and skill.

Don’t take his word for it. Just listen to how much the Republicans are complaining.

 

Steam Flyer

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This is true, and cuts right to the point- why are Republicans getting further and further out on a limb, whining about stupid bullshit and complaining that corporate America is gay, and similar whackoe delusions?

"... he (Biden) has shown an ability to regularly play the hands he’s dealt with cunning and skill.

Don’t take his word for it. Just listen to how much the Republicans are complaining."


The harder they complain, the more it looks like Biden is winning.
Hopefully more USAnians are seeing that, as the media ever more frantically tries to distract them with culture-war and hatred.
 

Gone Drinking

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America started to die the minute we willingly accepted a president who:
Never did anything for 50 years.
Ran twice before and lost both times.
Once got kicked out of a presidential race for plagiarism.
Has an unapologetic and active crackhead for a son.
Had a KKK member for a best friend.
Never ran a real campaign, and what he did run he ran it from his basement.
Can’t give coherent speeches.
Wouldn’t tell 2020 voters his policy platform.
Only promised not to be the other guy.
When he “won,” immediately started treating half our country like unwanted criminals.
When he opened our most dangerous border, we didn’t immediately impeach him as a traitor.
If you voted for this president, you’re the problem.
 

badlatitude

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America started to die the minute we willingly accepted a president who:
Never did anything for 50 years.
Ran twice before and lost both times.
Once got kicked out of a presidential race for plagiarism.
Has an unapologetic and active crackhead for a son.
Had a KKK member for a best friend.
Never ran a real campaign, and what he did run he ran it from his basement.
Can’t give coherent speeches.
Wouldn’t tell 2020 voters his policy platform.
Only promised not to be the other guy.
When he “won,” immediately started treating half our country like unwanted criminals.
When he opened our most dangerous border, we didn’t immediately impeach him as a traitor.
If you voted for this president, you’re the problem.
LOL, America was stabbed so many times in the heart while Trump was president. It's a surprise we are still around. The following is a very short list. Unfortunately, there is much, much more.

  • Tried to buy Greenland.
  • Wanted to nuke hurricanes.
  • Doctored a hurricane forecast map with a Sharpie.
  • Attempted a coup to stay in power.
  • Absconded with hundreds of classified documents, lied about it and refused to give them back when the feds asked nicely.
  • Sent unidentified federal officers to Portland, Oregon, to abduct protesters and spark a conflagration that could be used as a pretense for implementing martial law.
  • Ordered peaceful protesters tear-gassed so he could pose for a photo-op with a Bible outside a church.
  • Tried to blackmail Ukraine into manufacturing dirt for his 2020 campaign.
  • Asked Russia for help in his 2016 campaign — and got it.
  • Had a weird affinity for Russian President Vladimir Putin. (Remember the Helsinki summit?)
  • Invited Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov to an in-person meeting in the Oval Office, where he accidentally revealed top-secret intelligence.
  • Wanted to withdraw the U.S. from NATO.
  • Separated migrant parents from their children, locked the kids in cages and then failed to reunite them.
  • Insisted that “raking” would prevent forest fires because “you’ve got to take care of the floors. You know the floors of the forest, very important.”
  • Covered for Saudi Arabia after Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the gruesome murder and dismemberment of a U.S. journalist with a bone saw. (Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, owes Saudi Arabia $2 billion, and the crown prince has reportedly bragged about having Kushner “in his pocket.”)
  • Intervened to get Kushner top-secret clearance after he was denied over concerns about foreign influence.
  • Put Kushner in charge of Middle East peace.
  • Embraced rampant nepotism.
  • Touted injecting disinfectant as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Touted ultraviolet light as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Touted hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Touted ivermectin as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Told people not to wear face masks to cut down the spread of COVID-19, even though they work.
  • Actively discouraged COVID-19 testing.
  • Refused to send federal aid to New York City amid the first COVID-19 wave because the virus was hitting Democratic-voting states hardest.
  • “Jokingly” said on multiple occasions that he deserved to be president for more than two terms.
  • Thought climate change was a Chinese hoax.
  • Built an incomplete border wall that doesn’t work, wasn’t needed and wasn’t paid for by Mexico.
  • Started a trade war with China that mainly hurt U.S. consumers.
  • Threw food when angry.
  • Saw no problem with his vice president potentially being hanged by a violent mob he’d summoned and sent to the U.S. Capitol to disrupt the peaceful transition of power.
  • Stared directly at the sun.
    • Started his presidency with an easily disproved lie about the crowd size at his inauguration.
    • Thought people needed an ID to buy cereal.
    • Fired James Comey as FBI director because he didn’t like the bureau investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election. (Later, it was revealed that Trump’s campaign manager gave detailed internal polling data to a Russian intelligence agent.)
    • Was a “fucking moron,” according to Rex Tillerson, his secretary of state.
    • Fired the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s China-based pandemic response team — and then when a pandemic happened years later, said, “I don’t take responsibility at all” for COVID-19.
    • Repeatedly embraced racism.
    • Thought repeating “person, woman, man, camera, TV” would assure Americans of his mental stability.
    • Tweeted literal gibberish — a lot.
    • Lied all the time. (And still does.)
    • Openly embraced and amplified QAnon conspiracy theories.
    • Got impeached twice.
    • Passed huge tax cuts for wealthy corporations ― and massively grew the national debt.
    • Flip-flopped on whether the White House had ordered the USS John McCain be hidden so he wouldn’t get mad. (It did.)
    • Called American military members who died in the line of duty “losers” and “suckers.”
    • Claimed to have bone spurs to get out of military service.
    • Binge-watched Fox News when he should have been working.
    • Played so, so much golf.
    • Raked in cash from foreign interests at his Washington hotel in an operation sometimes described as the “epicenter” of a corrupt presidency.
    • Held a rally that may have led to the death of Herman Cain.
    • Allegedly directed his lawyer to commit campaign fraud to cover up that Trump cheated on his wife after she had recently given birth.
    • Was accused of sexual misconduct by more than two dozen women.
    • Dismissed any bad news about himself as “fake.”
    • Lied about voluntarily turning over his tax returns.
    • Ate well-done steak — with ketchup.
    • Described white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, as “very fine people.”
    • Grossly abused the presidential pardon on his way out the door.
    • Used private communication services extensively after arguing that Hillary Clinton should be jailed for having a private email server.
    • Refused to release White House visitor logs.
    • Went to Puerto Rico and threw paper towels at people desperate for actual hurricane aid.
    • Discouraged exercise because he believes bodies are like batteries, with a finite amount of energy.
 

Meat Wad

Super Anarchist
America started to die the minute we willingly accepted a president who:
Never did anything for 50 years.
Ran twice before and lost both times.
Once got kicked out of a presidential race for plagiarism.
Has an unapologetic and active crackhead for a son.
Had a KKK member for a best friend.
Never ran a real campaign, and what he did run he ran it from his basement.
Can’t give coherent speeches.
Wouldn’t tell 2020 voters his policy platform.
Only promised not to be the other guy.
When he “won,” immediately started treating half our country like unwanted criminals.
When he opened our most dangerous border, we didn’t immediately impeach him as a traitor.
If you voted for this president, you’re the problem.
What bothers me is the people behind the scenes (that we did not elect) making the policy decisions. It is painfully obvious that Biden makes very few decisions. I bet his Wife makes more decisions than Joe does.

I loved the video of him wandering aimlessly as everyone fawned over Obama on stage. Yea it is obvious Joe is in charge of NOTHING.

Here is a prediction, Biden runs with Knucklehead Newsom as VP. Then bows out leaving Newsom as POTUS. Then does the House Speaker move to VP or does the Pres get to appoint one?
 

Meat Wad

Super Anarchist
LOL, America was stabbed so many times in the heart while Trump was president. It's a surprise we are still around. The following is a very short list. Unfortunately, there is much, much more.

  • Tried to buy Greenland.
  • Wanted to nuke hurricanes.
  • Doctored a hurricane forecast map with a Sharpie.
  • Attempted a coup to stay in power.
  • Absconded with hundreds of classified documents, lied about it and refused to give them back when the feds asked nicely.
  • Sent unidentified federal officers to Portland, Oregon, to abduct protesters and spark a conflagration that could be used as a pretense for implementing martial law.
  • Ordered peaceful protesters tear-gassed so he could pose for a photo-op with a Bible outside a church.
  • Tried to blackmail Ukraine into manufacturing dirt for his 2020 campaign.
  • Asked Russia for help in his 2016 campaign — and got it.
  • Had a weird affinity for Russian President Vladimir Putin. (Remember the Helsinki summit?)
  • Invited Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov to an in-person meeting in the Oval Office, where he accidentally revealed top-secret intelligence.
  • Wanted to withdraw the U.S. from NATO.
  • Separated migrant parents from their children, locked the kids in cages and then failed to reunite them.
  • Insisted that “raking” would prevent forest fires because “you’ve got to take care of the floors. You know the floors of the forest, very important.”
  • Covered for Saudi Arabia after Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the gruesome murder and dismemberment of a U.S. journalist with a bone saw. (Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, owes Saudi Arabia $2 billion, and the crown prince has reportedly bragged about having Kushner “in his pocket.”)
  • Intervened to get Kushner top-secret clearance after he was denied over concerns about foreign influence.
  • Put Kushner in charge of Middle East peace.
  • Embraced rampant nepotism.
  • Touted injecting disinfectant as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Touted ultraviolet light as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Touted hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Touted ivermectin as a COVID-19 cure.
  • Told people not to wear face masks to cut down the spread of COVID-19, even though they work.
  • Actively discouraged COVID-19 testing.
  • Refused to send federal aid to New York City amid the first COVID-19 wave because the virus was hitting Democratic-voting states hardest.
  • “Jokingly” said on multiple occasions that he deserved to be president for more than two terms.
  • Thought climate change was a Chinese hoax.
  • Built an incomplete border wall that doesn’t work, wasn’t needed and wasn’t paid for by Mexico.
  • Started a trade war with China that mainly hurt U.S. consumers.
  • Threw food when angry.
  • Saw no problem with his vice president potentially being hanged by a violent mob he’d summoned and sent to the U.S. Capitol to disrupt the peaceful transition of power.
  • Stared directly at the sun.
    • Started his presidency with an easily disproved lie about the crowd size at his inauguration.
    • Thought people needed an ID to buy cereal.
    • Fired James Comey as FBI director because he didn’t like the bureau investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election. (Later, it was revealed that Trump’s campaign manager gave detailed internal polling data to a Russian intelligence agent.)
    • Was a “fucking moron,” according to Rex Tillerson, his secretary of state.
    • Fired the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s China-based pandemic response team — and then when a pandemic happened years later, said, “I don’t take responsibility at all” for COVID-19.
    • Repeatedly embraced racism.
    • Thought repeating “person, woman, man, camera, TV” would assure Americans of his mental stability.
    • Tweeted literal gibberish — a lot.
    • Lied all the time. (And still does.)
    • Openly embraced and amplified QAnon conspiracy theories.
    • Got impeached twice.
    • Passed huge tax cuts for wealthy corporations ― and massively grew the national debt.
    • Flip-flopped on whether the White House had ordered the USS John McCain be hidden so he wouldn’t get mad. (It did.)
    • Called American military members who died in the line of duty “losers” and “suckers.”
    • Claimed to have bone spurs to get out of military service.
    • Binge-watched Fox News when he should have been working.
    • Played so, so much golf.
    • Raked in cash from foreign interests at his Washington hotel in an operation sometimes described as the “epicenter” of a corrupt presidency.
    • Held a rally that may have led to the death of Herman Cain.
    • Allegedly directed his lawyer to commit campaign fraud to cover up that Trump cheated on his wife after she had recently given birth.
    • Was accused of sexual misconduct by more than two dozen women.
    • Dismissed any bad news about himself as “fake.”
    • Lied about voluntarily turning over his tax returns.
    • Ate well-done steak — with ketchup.
    • Described white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia, as “very fine people.”
    • Grossly abused the presidential pardon on his way out the door.
    • Used private communication services extensively after arguing that Hillary Clinton should be jailed for having a private email server.
    • Refused to release White House visitor logs.
    • Went to Puerto Rico and threw paper towels at people desperate for actual hurricane aid.
    • Discouraged exercise because he believes bodies are like batteries, with a finite amount of energy.
How long did it take you to find this list to copy and paste it?
Or have you been compiling this as hypno Therapy
 

Olsonist

Disgusting Liberal Elitist
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New Oak City
What bothers me is the people behind the scenes (that we did not elect) making the policy decisions. It is painfully obvious that Biden makes very few decisions. I bet his Wife makes more decisions than Joe does.

I loved the video of him wandering aimlessly as everyone fawned over Obama on stage. Yea it is obvious Joe is in charge of NOTHING.

Here is a prediction, Biden runs with Knucklehead Newsom as VP. Then bows out leaving Newsom as POTUS. Then does the House Speaker move to VP or does the Pres get to appoint one?
Biden has already chosen to run it back with Harris as VP.
They announced this on April 25. You can check that here:


You probably want to stay out of the prediction business.
 

badlatitude

Super Anarchist
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How long did it take you to find this list to copy and paste it?
Or have you been compiling this as hypno Therapy
It was easy to find. There are thousands of documents available demonstrating just how wrong Trump was as president.

Of course, you will understand all of this as soon as someone finds a way to give you the missing chromosomes that make you a whole human.
 

Sisyphus

Super Anarchist
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What bothers me is the people behind the scenes (that we did not elect) making the policy decisions. It is painfully obvious that Biden makes very few decisions. I bet his Wife makes more decisions than Joe does.

I loved the video of him wandering aimlessly as everyone fawned over Obama on stage. Yea it is obvious Joe is in charge of NOTHING.

Here is a prediction, Biden runs with Knucklehead Newsom as VP. Then bows out leaving Newsom as POTUS. Then does the House Speaker move to VP or does the Pres get to appoint one?
Bob, these people do not know how to read or understand what the Constitution is.
The Supreme Court does not grant Rights, They rule on Constitutional Law.
You could try reading and understanding the Constitution.

Why is it the people who go on about what is and isn’t in the Constitution, don’t seem to know much about what is and isn’t in the Constitution.
 

Voyageur

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SloopJonB

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America started to die the minute we willingly accepted a president who:
Never did anything for 50 years.
Ran twice before and lost both times.
Once got kicked out of a presidential race for plagiarism.
Has an unapologetic and active crackhead for a son.
Had a KKK member for a best friend.
Never ran a real campaign, and what he did run he ran it from his basement.
Can’t give coherent speeches.
Wouldn’t tell 2020 voters his policy platform.
Only promised not to be the other guy.
When he “won,” immediately started treating half our country like unwanted criminals.
When he opened our most dangerous border, we didn’t immediately impeach him as a traitor.
If you voted for this president, you’re the problem.
That's a poor description of Trump.
 



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