Biden Gun Control

[Pertinacious Tom]

California already has all the gun control laws that Biden put forward, and yet it has a higher per capita rate of mass public shootings than the rest of the country.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Good video. It just means the National Guard. The Constitution is just referring to cannons and shit like and the organizing of Minutemen. Read any Revolutionary War history and you can get a sense of what was important and why the second amendment was written. Also look at how the Ukraine government handed out small arms after the Russian invasion. Small arms in the hands of private citizens that Trumptards masturbate to aren't part of the second amendment and can be regulated or banned. I'm not sure how we got to where we are at, but we see how politicized the Supreme Court is now and I'm guessing its always been the same. @Pertinacious Tom Is that right Tom?

... to keep and carry arms wherever they went...

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

... to keep and carry arms wherever they went...

Could you please explain @Pertinacious Tom

Sure. At the risk of repeating my prior explanation word for word,

That's what it meant in 1860 before the silly ideas of indoor militias allowed to own only antique guns came into vogue.

You're not one of those who believes in indoor militias, are you?

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

go ahead and make YOUR point here.

No. Just because yet another attention whore started yet another gun thread doesn't mean I'm interested in making the same points over again in that new thread.

 

[veni vidi vici]

No. Just because yet another attention whore started yet another gun thread doesn't mean I'm interested in making the same points over again in that new thread.

Lol … well look at you !
Hook line and sinker

 

[jocal505]

Pertinacious Tom 43 minutes ago​

(to pusslicker, Tom has me on ignore) go ahead and make YOUR point here.

(Dogballs speaketh in reply) No.

First off, you are not ignoring me very well.

Secondly, yes, the points you try to make are tired, and weak, and so they make for poor blogging.

Thirdly, I am asking @pusslicker , not you, what he thinks of this 1860 cracker's thinking, which the cracker put in writing: a Justice Taney statement which you stand upon as gospel...scores of times every year.*
*Research by Tom "Dogballs" Ray:



And why do I ask for fresh air from @pusslicker? Because, Dogballs, this Taney character's thinking sparked the civil war. It is suspect, sir. Furthermore, these words are not directly or indirectly related to the Second by Taney, as far as I know: unfortunately, you have spammed Taney's pre-bellum misinterpretation of gun rights, widely... on OCD.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Just for the record, I ESTABLISHED my target shooting range yesterday.

I had to get everything out of the way of the loader so the oak tree could be righted, so I put it back yesterday a bit better than before.

It's important to note that it's established because the ban on battlefield .22's that the President supports also requires a background check if I want to let another person shoot my battlefield .22. This requirement doesn't apply at an established range.

(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to a temporary transfer of possession for the purpose of participating in target shooting in a licensed target facility or established range if—
“(A) the grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon is, at all times, kept within the premises of the target facility or range; and

“(B) the transferee is not known to be prohibited from possessing or receiving a grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon.

So we can let non-naughty people (this absolutely does NOT mean cannabis consumers) shoot battlefield .22's in our yard only if it's a licensed target facility or established range.

I don't have a license, but I definitely established a range.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Lol … well look at you !
Hook line and sinker

It's the weekend!

 

[pusslicker]

Just for the record, I ESTABLISHED my target shooting range yesterday.

I had to get everything out of the way of the loader so the oak tree could be righted, so I put it back yesterday a bit better than before.

It's important to note that it's established because the ban on battlefield .22's that the President supports also requires a background check if I want to let another person shoot my battlefield .22. This requirement doesn't apply at an established range.



So we can let non-naughty people (this absolutely does NOT mean cannabis consumers) shoot battlefield .22's in our yard only if it's a licensed target facility or established range.

I don't have a license, but I definitely established a range.

A berm behind it would be nice. I feel I'm missing something not knowing what a battlefield 22 is. Google isn't giving me much.

 

[d'ranger]

A berm behind it would be nice. I feel I'm missing something not knowing what a battlefield 22 is. Google isn't giving me much.

They are a regular feature in Dogballs, Florida. Pretty specific so a general search doesn't help much.

 

[jocal505]

(...) I feel I'm missing something not knowing what a battlefield 22 is. Google isn't giving me much.

To flood the zone, bullshit is needed. The battlefield .22 term, and issue, are the fabric of that (quite voluminous) bullshit.

Any moment occupied by this nonsense is a moment not considering, not facing, and not agreeing to the obvious solutions.

 

[Keith]

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

A berm behind it would be nice. I feel I'm missing something not knowing what a battlefield 22 is. Google isn't giving me much.

There's about a mile of swamp behind it. We shoot from uphill down into it.

A battlefield .22 is just any .22 that is covered by an "assault" weapon ban. Or, another way of saying the same thing, any .22 that is suitable for militia service.

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but maybe not yet in this thread.

We firmly believe that weapons designed for war have no place on the streets of a civilized society.

Senator Feinstein, on the web page where she proposes banning battlefield .22's.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

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My ten round battlefield .22 magazines are recreational. Except in Florida, where they're battle ready.

The ELEVEN round ones are battle-ready nationwide. I mean, as soon as I finish modifying them so they work. The justification has nothing to do with recreation. They're part of the purpose of the second amendment.

 

[veni vidi vici]

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Nothing recreational about the 2A

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

How about limiting ammo? You can have as many guns as you want, but only 100 rounds of ammo of one specific size. (Or let's say 2 50 round alottments, one 50 rounds of 12 ga for your duck hunting, and one 50 round allotment of something else for targets, or deer, or neighborhood children....

I know! We can allow printing presses but just make a law that only the government can own ink. No freedom of the press problem at all!

Your genius solution was already old news at the time of the American Revolution.

Requiring ammo would be more historically accurate.

By an Act passed April 4, 1786 (Laws 1786, c. 25), the New York Legislature directed: 'That every able-bodied Male Person, being a Citizen of this State, or of any of the United States, and residing in this State, (except such Persons as are herein after excepted) and who are of the Age of Sixteen, and under the Age of Forty-five Years, shall, by the Captain or commanding Officer of the Beat in which such Citizens shall reside, within four Months after the passing of this Act, be enrolled in the Company of such Beat. * * * That every Citizen so enrolled and notified, shall, within three Months thereafter, provide himself, at his own Expense, with a good Musket or Firelock, a sufficient Bayonet and Belt, a Pouch with a Box therein to contain not less than Twenty-four Cartridges suited to the Bore of his Musket or Firelock, each Cartridge containing a proper Quantity of Powder and Ball, two spare Flints, a Blanket and Knapsack; * * *.'
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The General Assembly of Virginia, October, 1785 (12 Hening's Statutes c. 1, p. 9 et seq.), declared: 'The defense and safety of the commonwealth depend upon having its citizens properly armed and taught the knowledge of military duty.'
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It further provided for organization and control of the Militia and directed that 'All free male persons between the ages of eighteen and fifty years,' with certain exceptions, 'shall be inrolled or formed into companies.' 'There shall be a private muster of every company once in two months.'
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Also that 'Every officer and soldier shall appear at his respective muster-field on the day appointed, by eleven o'clock in the forenoon, armed, equipped, and accoutred, as follows: * * * every non-commissioned officer and private with a good, clean musket carrying an ounce ball, and three feet eight inches long in the barrel, with a good bayonet and iron ramrod well fitted thereto, a cartridge box properly made, to contain and secure twenty cartridges fitted to his musket, a good knapsack and canteen, and moreover, each non-commissioned officer and private shall have at every muster one pound of good powder, and four pounds of lead, including twenty blind cartridges; and each serjeant shall have a pair of moulds fit to cast balls for their respective companies, to be purchased by the commanding officer out of the monies arising on delinquencies. Provided, That the militia of the counties westward of the Blue Ridge, and the counties below adjoining thereto, shall not be obliged to be armed with muskets, but may have good rifles with proper accoutrements, in lieu thereof. And every of the said officers, non-commissioned officers, and privates, shall constantly keep the aforesaid arms, accoutrements, and ammunition, ready to be produced whenever called for by his commanding officer. If any private shall make it appear to the satisfaction of the court hereafter to be appointed for trying delinquencies under this act that he is so poor that he cannot purchase the arms herein required, such court shall cause them to be purchased out of the money arising from delinquents.'

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

I feel I'm missing something not knowing what a battlefield 22 is. Google isn't giving me much.

You don't click links, or just take some initiative and do what I did and go find an "assault" weapon ban for yourself and read it?

Seems like I spend a lot of time around here informing non-readers of what is in those bans.

Tell me: did you know that battlefield .22's are "assault" weapons before encountering me?

I suspect the answer is no, but I've suspected that in a lot of cases and never gotten an answer to that question. I suspect because the answer is always no.

Let me try again:

the ban on battlefield .22's that the President supports

The link in there should have been a clue the first time. Have you realized yet that the "weapons of war" that Senator Feinstein is talking about include these battlefield .22's?

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Elsewhere, a non-reader said:

your dogballs are included which while I don't agree with since only professional hitmen tend to use them and not in the wifey rifle version it's what is on the table. Neither of my dogballs are affected so go pound sand.

It's not often that grabbers admit they support something they previously opposed just to punish people they don't like for owning guns. I sometimes say that gun control is about punishing gun owners for defying TeamD. Some don't believe it.

Well, there you have it, straight from a TeamD Ranger. Battlefield .22 bans are reasonable if they affect someone you don't like.

That's common sense gun control in a nutshell.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Nothing recreational about the 2A

Perhaps not, but educating grabbers about what they actually support is pretty entertaining, even if none of them can admit to being educated by me.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Perhaps not, but educating grabbers about what they actually support is pretty entertaining, even if none of them can admit to being educated by me.

Lol …” common sense gun laws “



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