Bidens Laptop

Steam Flyer

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Even the liberal arts college named for him dosn't go along with your 'true history almost certain fact' But you know thyself and keep being you and get your revisionst history from watching Rachel Maddow

Well, let's see... I've watched Rachel Maddow less than a dozen times in my life, and even if I did, she is not a liar such as Cucker Tarlson or even Lou Dobbs, or literally hundreds of RWNJ "news" bullshitters.

And of course, a "Liberal" Arts College would be almost duty bound to proclaim Hamilton's mixed race, huh?

So much fail.
 

Peter Andersen

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Well, let's see... I've watched Rachel Maddow less than a dozen times in my life, and even if I did, she is not a liar such as Cucker Tarlson or even Lou Dobbs, or literally hundreds of RWNJ "news" bullshitters.

And of course, a "Liberal" Arts College would be almost duty bound to proclaim Hamilton's mixed race, huh?

So much fail.
You made an assertion. You've done zero to support it, because you cannot.
 

Mike G

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Much like the Trump Tower meeting was only about adoption, I totally believe the tampering with the laptop was just innocent fun. Probably just memes and hippo-farting .gif's.
 

Bus Driver

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Well, let's see... I've watched Rachel Maddow less than a dozen times in my life, and even if I did, she is not a liar such as Cucker Tarlson or even Lou Dobbs, or literally hundreds of RWNJ "news" bullshitters.

And of course, a "Liberal" Arts College would be almost duty bound to proclaim Hamilton's mixed race, huh?

So much fail.
I don't think JT, I mean Peter Anderson, is aware "liberal arts college" is not the dig at liberals he wants it to be.
 

Peter Andersen

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Back in the real world, its possibly one of the dumbest things you have ever said. But there are so many of your thoughts competing for that title, its impossible to declare just one. Had you or anyone in your family gone to college you would know that.

The word "liberal" in "liberal arts" comes from the Latin term "liberalis", as in "free". Such institutes promote free thinking. It is not surprising that one would find Republicans shying away from such things. They seem to prefer "groupthink", and proudly proclaim it.

From the "dittoheads" of Rushbo (demonstrating they were like mimeograph machines, copying and churning out his talking points) to MAGAts (screaming that phrase as if they really know what they are promoting), the evidence is clear. Staying "on message" is the hallmark of absence of free thought. Now, which side of the political aisle shows time and time again how monolithic it is and how it's adherents are able to spread the approved word?

I truly don't expect you to come up with the right answer, as you are one of them.
 

hobie1616

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Tucker Carlson knows exactly what he’s doing

Fox News host Tucker Carlson last month made false insinuations about Hunter Biden. Others who trafficked in the same bucket of slime later corrected themselves. And even though Carlson’s remarks triggered a legal letter from Hunter Biden’s lawyer, he hasn’t budged.

Chalk it up to experience: Over his six years helming “Tucker Carlson Tonight” — and decades of commentary on cable news — the host has learned just what he can get away with on his highly rated program. He is a serial First Amendment leeway opportunist.

Biden is an ideal for Carlson’s calibrated attacks. Oversight initiatives by the new House Republican majority are focusing on Biden’s business dealings and his famous laptop — which surfaced in the late stages of his father’s 2020 presidential campaign — can always be relied upon to stoke fresh outrage. Especially when you specialize in twisting facts.

That’s what Carlson did on Jan. 16, when he amplified a claim on social media relating to a document on the laptop — specifically, a background-check form that was filled out when Hunter Biden in 2018 was looking to rent real estate in Los Angeles. The form listed Joe Biden’s Wilmington home under Hunter Biden’s “current address.” Under the separate heading of “Current Residence,” the form cites a company named “Owasco P.C.” with a monthly rent of nearly $50,000. The box for “own” is checked.

On Jan. 12, a Twitter user (@jj_talking) flagged the form, prompting Miranda Devine, the New York Post reporter who wrote a book about the Hunter Biden laptop, to post her own commentary: "In 2018 Hunter Biden claimed he owned the house where Joe Biden kept classified documents alongside his Corvette in the garage.”

Cue the Carlson riffs: “On the form, Hunter Biden claims he is paying nearly $50,000 a month in housing costs. $50,000 a month. Where’d that money come from?” said the host on his Jan. 16 show. After detailing Biden’s slide into hard times, Carlson said, “So how did a disgraced drug addict with no job skills make enough money to make a $50,000 a month payment? Who was paying him and how much are they paying him? And why were they paying him?”

And then the speculation with a topping of innuendo:
So is it possible that Joe Biden’s lifestyle was financed by his son and his son’s dealings with foreign governments? Apparently, he shared a bank account with his son. Keep in mind that when Hunter Biden left his wife and three children, they were effectively broke. Could it be that the money was going to Joe Biden, whose home Hunter Biden “owned”? Hmm. We don’t know. But these are interesting, interesting questions.
They’re interesting questions, sure, except for the lack of evidence. As The Post’s Glenn Kessler pointed out, the $50,000 represents Hunter Biden’s quarterly payment for Georgetown waterfront office space that he leased from the House of Sweden between March 2017 and February 2018. Biden used this office space when he and his uncle held a $4.8 million contract with a Chinese energy outfit.

In a Feb. 1 letter, Bryan M. Sullivan, a lawyer representing Biden, demands that Fox News retract Carlson’s reporting by devoting a “significant of amount of air‐time” to the actual facts. What Carlson did in his segment, alleges Sullivan, is to imply “essentially a money laundering scheme to finance President Biden’s lifestyle prior to his election as President after legitimately defeating Donald Trump.”

The letter, which warns of “potential litigation,” makes much of the public reporting that preceded Carlson’s rant against Hunter Biden. As Carlson noted in his show, @jj_talking and Devine commented on the background-check form on Twitter — and Carlson even credited the latter with “extensive reporting” on the matter. What he failed to point out, however, was that Devine walked back the original notion with two tweets, both of which came before Carlson’s show on the night of Jan. 16. Here’s what Devine tweeted on the afternoon of Jan. 16:

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n a flagrant violation of all journalistic professionalism, Mr. Carlson intentionally ignored Ms. Devine’s cautionary tweets about the $50,000 per month rent being ‘wild speculation,'" reads the Sullivan letter. "He said nothing about those tweets although he implied he reviewed all of her tweets by describing her as having ‘done extensive reporting on it.’” Those considerations, argues Sullivan, mean that Carlson and Fox News “certainly acted with reckless disregard” in reporting the “rent” allegation or “more likely, knew that it was false and unreliable, but engaged in such conduct anyway.”

Carlson’s state of mind would be critical to any defamation lawsuit filed by Hunter Biden’s attorneys, because public figures must prove that offending news outlets acted with knowledge of the falsity of their claims or with “reckless disregard” of their truth or falsity. That’s a tough bar to clear, and there are other complicating considerations: The background-check form is complex to the point of nonsensical, a problem that could validate Carlson’s claim that he was just asking “questions.” And just how defamatory was this segment, in light of Hunter Biden’s already tarnished reputation?

Toward the end of the discussion, Carlson noted that there was much “speculation online about what this $50,000 month payment was for. Was it for his office? Did he lie on the form?” Boldface inserted to highlight a comment that could swing both ways: Carlson might argue that it shows that he was merely posing a question, not claiming to have the answer; Hunter Biden’s attorneys might argue that it proves Carlson knew that the “money laundering” narrative was off-base.

Recall that in December 2018 Carlson said on air that Karen McDougal, who had claimed to have had an affair with Donald Trump, "threaten[ed] to ruin his career and humiliate his family if he doesn’t give them money.”

No such scenario ever took place, and McDougal sued for defamation. Her complaint was dismissed, though lawyers for Fox News conceded that Carlson engages in “exaggeration” and “non-literal commentary,” taking advantage of case law that protects rhetorical hyperbole. That argument stands as a cringey brand embarrassment for Fox News — and any litigation that forces the network to again unsheathe this defense performs a public service.
 

d'ranger

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Did anyone notice that Hunter now states the laptop is his? hmmmm, maybe because now he can go on the offensive?

Biden’s attorney, Abbe Lowell, insists the letters are not an acknowledgment that the laptop belongs to their client.

“These letters do not confirm (the computer shop owner, John Paul Mac Isaac) or others’ versions of a so-called laptop,” Lowell said in a statement to NewsNation. “They address their conduct of seeking, manipulating and disseminating what they allege to be Mr. Biden’s personal data, wherever they claim to have gotten it.”
 

d'ranger

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https://www.foxnews.com/media/hunte...cism-media-initially-dismissed-corrupt-allies
So the FOX ones has a different spin on it...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64495401
Slightly different take on it...
https://www.newsnationnow.com/danab...ptop-repairman-on-hunter-biden-lawyer-claims/ I think this is the one from my earlier post - I read about this on Quora but finding what I read on a tablet from yesterday just not that easy. Anyway, should be interesting as this develops. Somewhere it mentions there were 3 laptops all water damaged so thrice the fun.
 

phillysailor

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https://www.foxnews.com/media/hunte...cism-media-initially-dismissed-corrupt-allies
So the FOX ones has a different spin on it...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64495401
Slightly different take on it...
https://www.newsnationnow.com/danab...ptop-repairman-on-hunter-biden-lawyer-claims/ I think this is the one from my earlier post - I read about this on Quora but finding what I read on a tablet from yesterday just not that easy. Anyway, should be interesting as this develops. Somewhere it mentions there were 3 laptops all water damaged so thrice the fun.
Yeah, so I know that these organizations say that Biden admits the laptop was his, but that falls apart when you read the source material.

Here’s a link to the letter to the Delaware State AG

First, Hunter Biden said nothing. His lawyers filed papers and sent letters. So be careful when you write “Hunter admits…”

Second, the letter refers to “personal computer data”. They talk about the data when discussing how many times it was accessed prior to, and after the repair dude talked with Giuliani’s team. They then talk about the hard drive copy of the data, how it was an incomplete image, and the how it was repeatedly altered. And they go into a lot of detail about who received the data.

You are aware that having your data on a computer doesn’t mean you necessarily OWN that computer, right?

Finally, Whenever they refer to the laptop at the NJ shop, they say “claimed Hunter Biden dropped it off” or “purported to be Hunter Biden’s laptop.

So, your “sources” are making assumptions and you are repeating them. Try harder
 

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“These letters do not confirm (the computer shop owner, John Paul Mac Isaac) or others’ versions of a so-called laptop,” Lowell said in a statement to NewsNation. “They address their conduct of seeking, manipulating and disseminating what they allege to be Mr. Biden’s personal data, wherever they claim to have gotten it.”

Heh. Lawyers are funny sometimes.

Well, he was in Delaware. That sure looks like his signature on a repair order. The customer reeked of booze and entitlement. There's an awful lot of Hunter Biden information on the machines the mystery customer dropped off. So it's just possible that the mystery customer was, in fact, Hunter Biden.
 

El Borracho

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Heh. Lawyers are funny sometimes.

Well, he was in Delaware. ….
You, of all people, to convict someone on circumstantial evidence. Prosecution will need to connect all the dots. Might be Hunter’s repair order but not the device. Might be Hunter’s device but not his data. Etc etc.

Plus the problem remains that the all the data doesn’t appear to incriminate anyone.

The stakes are high enough that sophisticated actors could be involved. A skill level that certainly rules out Team Trump, however.

There are certainly some parties that mishandled private information. Gonna be fun 🍿
 

jocal505

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Pertinacious Tom 19 minutes ago
Heh. Lawyers are funny sometimes.

Yes. Alan Gura was a big joke at the SC, for example. The (purpose-framed) Libertarian hired gun was so funny that Scalia had to school him, to accomplish Heller.

(Tom) So it's just possible that the mystery customer was, in fact, Hunter Biden.* *Research by Tom "Dogballs" Ray

INNUENDO INC. Once again, we find your thinking, and preaching, to be un-American.

Hi, Tom.
 
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