Black Lives Matter

frenchie

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BLM is based on a lie, there is no evidence of systemic targeting of blacks by police. The well documented effect of BLM's efforts is destructive and mostly to the black community. It compels police to be reactive (and defunded) and has lead to increased loss of black lives. It's destroys of the economic base of the community.  BLM focuses on the tiny fraction of black lives taken by police because their power comes from perceived victimhood. They ignore the elephant in the room because it doesn't serve their purposes. I'm simply pointing to the elephant. If black lives really mattered to BLM they would give some attention to the 93% of black victims that are killed by other blacks.
Your whole argument is premised on a false assumption: that the people who make up the Black Lives Matter are not the same people who make up the Stop the Violence movement.  Which, if you had even the slightest bit of contact with either group, you'd realize is complete bullshit.

You can still pretend to not know there's even such a thing as a Stop the Violence movement (even though there's more of those events than there are BLM events, and even though I've linked to some of the paltry coverage they get) because, well  -  why the fuck would you?  Those marches aren't through your neighbourhood, you're not invited, they're not directed at you in any way, shape, or form.  The gangbangers don't work for you.  You're completely irrelevant to that problem.  

Whereas you do hear about the Black Lives Matter movement, because that one is directed at you, because the cops do work for you.

If you think the cops treat black & brown people the same as white folks  -  all I can say is, I can tell you don't tan as dark as I do.

 

Raz'r

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BLM is based on a lie, there is no evidence of systemic targeting of blacks by police. The well documented effect of BLM's efforts is destructive and mostly to the black community. It compels police to be reactive (and defunded) and has lead to increased loss of black lives. It's destroys of the economic base of the community.  BLM focuses on the tiny fraction of black lives taken by police because their power comes from perceived victimhood. They ignore the elephant in the room because it doesn't serve their purposes. I'm simply pointing to the elephant. If black lives really mattered to BLM they would give some attention to the 93% of black victims that are killed by other blacks.
You lie. 

 

frenchie

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You're a piece of shit.  Just like the garbage lies that you post.

Here's the truth.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/app/race-riot/timeline.html

Seriously.  Here's your source's media check.

Extreme Right, Poor Sourcing, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Failed Fact Checks
I'm not seeing the issue with that particular post.  Unless you mean the "Democrats" bit?  But the Democrats were the bad guys, down there, back then.

Well, mostly.

Ironically, BB managed to find one of the few counter-examples!  That takes some talent.

The newspaper that set off the whole thing, had changed hands 2 years earlier; at which point it changed its name from the Tulsa Democrat to the Tulsa Tribune, and was consistently Republican.  Never endorsed a single Democrat for President, after, and didn't endorse one for Governor until 1958.

Matter of fact, in 1923, it opposed the Democrat Governor's attempts to shut down the KKK via Martial Law...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre#Newspaper_coverage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Tribune#Tulsa_race_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_C._Walton#Governor_of_Oklahoma

 

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I'm not seeing the issue with that particular post.  Unless you mean the "Democrats" bit?  But the Democrats were the bad guys, down there, back then.

Well, mostly.

Ironically, BB managed to find one of the few counter-examples!  That takes some talent.

The newspaper that set off the whole thing, had changed hands 2 years earlier; at which point it changed its name from the Tulsa Democrat to the Tulsa Tribune, and was consistently Republican.  Never endorsed a single Democrat for President, after, and didn't endorse one for Governor until 1958.

Matter of fact, in 1923, it opposed the Democrat Governor's attempts to shut down the KKK via Martial Law...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre#Newspaper_coverage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Tribune#Tulsa_race_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_C._Walton#Governor_of_Oklahoma
It had little or nothing to do with Democrats, and little or nothing to do with the Klan, who came in later in the year.  Basically, his entire title is a lie, and the website he quoted it from is full of shit and conjecture about what happened.  As opposed to facts.

 

frenchie

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BravoBravo said:
Lester Maddox and George Wallace...do those names ring a bell or were the purged from the history book by the time you got your "education" ? 
Which has... what, exactly, to do with the post you quoted?  It was about BLM, not the dems & reps.

If  you'd waited a few minutes, you'd have seen that on that topic, I fully acknowledge that the soutner democrats were way worse than the republicans, back then.  Amazing how you managed to pick the one example where it was the other way round... ya fucking dumbass.

 

frenchie

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It had little or nothing to do with Democrats, and little or nothing to do with the Klan, who came in later in the year.  Basically, his entire title is a lie, and the website he quoted it from is full of shit and conjecture about what happened.  As opposed to facts.
Hilariously enough, he/they made the accusation about the one fucking example I know of where it DID sorta fall along partisan lines... only, the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect.  That's... talent.

Are we sure BB's not a black leftie, trying to make racists and republicans look as bad as possible?

 

Dog

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Your whole argument is premised on a false assumption: that the people who make up the Black Lives Matter are not the same people who make up the Stop the Violence movement.  Which, if you had even the slightest bit of contact with either group, you'd realize is complete bullshit.

You can still pretend to not know there's even such a thing as a Stop the Violence movement (even though there's more of those events than there are BLM events, and even though I've linked to some of the paltry coverage they get) because, well  -  why the fuck would you?  Those marches aren't through your neighbourhood, you're not invited, they're not directed at you in any way, shape, or form.  The gangbangers don't work for you.  You're completely irrelevant to that problem.  

Whereas you do hear about the Black Lives Matter movement, because that one is directed at you, because the cops do work for you.

If you think the cops treat black & brown people the same as white folks  -  all I can say is, I can tell you don't tan as dark as I do.
I'm focusing on BLM's because, well,  it's the topic of this thread and their lie is misleading and destructive. And I understand that the police treat blacks differently. Any demographic that commits crime at a higher rate than others should get more attention from law enforcement.

 

Steam Flyer

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I'm focusing on BLM's because, well,  it's the topic of this thread and their lie is misleading and destructive. And I understand that the police treat blacks differently. Any demographic that commits crime at a higher rate than others should get more attention from law enforcement.
Uh huh.

So, any demographic that you -think- commits more crime should get killed more by law enforcement, you mean?

- DSK

 

Steam Flyer

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BravoBravo said:
Yep, get the facts wrong but the year right.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/civil_rights/cloture_finalpassage.htm

" ... the biggest headaches for Democratic leader Mike Mansfield often came not from Republicans but from the conservative bloc of his own party caucus. The filibuster that threatened to derail the civil rights bill in 1964 was not led by the opposition party, but by an opposing faction within the majority party. "

This was when all the racists that opposed equality began to shift to the Republican Party, and this little bit of political in-fighting accelerated that trend. Want a list of all the segregationist Democrats who turned Republican?

History matters, but what happened a long time ago.... was a long time ago.

- DSK

 

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Decades ago, the Republican Party was the more progressive of the two.  They championed civil rights.

The current iteration of the GOP is busy making sure to close polling locations in majority black areas.  Linky

Idiots like BravoBravo prefer to live in a fantasyland in which they see the world like they want it to be.

 

Steam Flyer

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BravoBravo said:
Nope... Dems have tried to flip history and the narrative, Dems tout solutions via the government’s and Republicans via personal freedom and self determination. 
And massive national debt and fiscal crashes just before the end of every Republican Administration.

No pointless wars this time around, but there's still time

- DSK

 

Dog

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Decades ago, the Republican Party was the more progressive of the two.  They championed civil rights.

The current iteration of the GOP is busy making sure to close polling locations in majority black areas.  Linky

Idiots like BravoBravo prefer to live in a fantasyland in which they see the world like they want it to be.
Today the Democrats champion “progressive” which is not to be confused with progress as any observer of Democratic cities can see.

BTW...congrats on getting that defunded police department you wanted, hope you don't regret it. Decades ago a Democratic president lobbied for 100,000 new police officers not any more.

 
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frenchie

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BravoBravo said:
It seems you need to read your own posts....
You're hallucinating.  There's no mention of Republicans or Democrats anywhere in the post you quoted:

Your whole argument is premised on a false assumption: that the people who make up the Black Lives Matter are not the same people who make up the Stop the Violence movement.  Which, if you had even the slightest bit of contact with either group, you'd realize is complete bullshit.

You can still pretend to not know there's even such a thing as a Stop the Violence movement (even though there's more of those events than there are BLM events, and even though I've linked to some of the paltry coverage they get) because, well  -  why the fuck would you?  Those marches aren't through your neighbourhood, you're not invited, they're not directed at you in any way, shape, or form.  The gangbangers don't work for you.  You're completely irrelevant to that problem.  

Whereas you do hear about the Black Lives Matter movement, because that one is directed at you, because the cops do work for you.

If you think the cops treat black & brown people the same as white folks  -  all I can say is, I can tell you don't tan as dark as I do.

 


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