Black Lives Matter

[Sol Rosenberg]

Y’all’r donating your time to someone whose goal is to waste it because you are his enemy. 

 

[Bus Driver]

Today the Democrats champion “progressive” which is not to be confused with progress as any observer of Democratic cities can see.

BTW...congrats on getting that defunded police department you wanted, hope you don't regret it. Decades ago a Democratic president lobbied for 100,000 new police officers not any more.

So, you cannot refute the fact that using the Republican's ideology of decades ago as indicative of what they support, today.  Instead, you just poke at Democrats.

And, with your last statement, you demonstrate your position regarding "personal" is a steaming pile of Malarkey.  Bravo!

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Dems tout solutions via the government’s and Republicans via personal freedom and self determination. 

Ahhh, but personal freedom for whom?

 

[Burning Man]

2 hours ago, MR.CLEAN said:

I don't follow NASCAR.  What was the point of that?  Did he run out of gas?  And who's bubba wallace?

 

[Dog]

So, you cannot refute the fact that using the Republican's ideology of decades ago as indicative of what they support, today.  Instead, you just poke at Democrats.

And, with your last statement, you demonstrate your position regarding "personal" is a steaming pile of Malarkey.  Bravo!

I think Republicans today have their issues but they still oppose slavery and support civil rights. Democrats used to support protecting their communities but now they cower when leftist radicals declare a section of a major city to be autonomous. Now they give rioters space to burn and loot and trash their communities. Democrats have sold out to the radical left including BLM and are now owned by them.

 

[Burning Man]

Now they give rioters space to burn and loot and trash their communities. Democrats have sold out to the radical left including BLM and are now owned by them.

Democrat leaders would never do that, would they??  Oh wait.....

“I made it very clear that I work with the police and instructed them to do everything that they could to make sure that the protesters were able to exercise their right to free speech,” Rawlings-Blake said. “It’s a very delicate balancing act. Because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well. And we worked very hard to keep that balance and to put ourselves in the best position to de-escalate.”

--  A likely big city mayor (D) quote.

 

[Raz'r]

Democrat leaders would never do that, would they??  Oh wait.....

--  A likely big city mayor (D) quote.

Kinda like letting a bunch of goobers take over a state capital, or occupy a federal facility, and not shooting right away, but giving the goobers time to engage in a bit of puffery and then go home.

"But it's ok, those protestors were white." Likely @Burning Manquote

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/24/oregon-wildlife-refuge-damage-photos-militia-standoff

 

[Burning Man]

Kinda like letting a bunch of goobers take over a state capital, or occupy a federal facility, and not shooting right away, but giving the goobers time to engage in a bit of puffery and then go home.

Except the goobers didn't burn down the state capital or federal facility, burn all the cars in the street and loot all the businesses on the block.  It doesn't make them any less goobers, and I strongly disagree with their tactics.  But if you can't see the difference between a peaceful protest and a riot, then I can't help you.  

 

[Raz'r]

Except the goobers didn't burn down the state capital or federal facility, burn all the cars in the street and loot all the businesses on the block.  It doesn't make them any less goobers, and I strongly disagree with their tactics.  But if you can't see the difference between a peaceful protest and a riot, then I can't help you.  

imagine!

 

[Burning Man]

All... no one is denied opportunity , it is the key to success witness the multitude of ethnicities in your lifetime coming to this country, many without speaking English and building successful lives for themselves through hard work and determination 

The fact that they can become successful and build a life here and STILL not speak English after living here for decades speaks volumes about the opportunities here and the amazing tolerance of this country and its people.  

 

[Bus Driver]

I think Republicans today have their issues but they still oppose slavery and support civil rights. Democrats used to support protecting their communities but now they cower when leftist radicals declare a section of a major city to be autonomous. Now they give rioters space to burn and loot and trash their communities. Democrats have sold out to the radical left including BLM and are now owned by them.

Except, when they don't.

This is just the shit pulled by the President, since he took office -

Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks

Of course, we could talk about the GOP at the national level -

Republicans devote $20m and 50,000 people to efforts to restrict voting

Or, we could talk about state level efforts -

Polling Places in Black Communities Continue to Close Ahead of November Elections

or -

Report: More than 1600 Polling Places Have Closed Since the Supreme Court Gutted the Voting Rights Act (Most of them are in minority communities.)

 

[Sean]

BLM is based on a lie, there is no evidence of systemic targeting of blacks by police. The well documented effect of BLM's efforts is destructive and mostly to the black community. It compels police to be reactive (and defunded) and has lead to increased loss of black lives. It's destroys of the economic base of the community.  BLM focuses on the tiny fraction of black lives taken by police because their power comes from perceived victimhood. They ignore the elephant in the room because it doesn't serve their purposes. I'm simply pointing to the elephant. If black lives really mattered to BLM they would give some attention to the 93% of black victims that are killed by other blacks.

Ffs Dog, you really got the bellyfeel going on. 

 

[Burning Man]

imagine!

I don't have to imagine.  It's all right here in living color:

 

[Raz'r]

I don't have to imagine.  It's all right here in living color:

meh. A little steam getting blown off. Better than a buncha dead folks in the streets.

 

[FinnFish]

I don't have to imagine.  It's all right here in living color

I thought you guys had already sorted out Rwanda?

 

[Grrr...]

I think Republicans today have their issues but they still oppose slavery and support civil rights. Democrats used to support protecting their communities but now they cower when leftist radicals declare a section of a major city to be autonomous. Now they give rioters space to burn and loot and trash their communities. Democrats have sold out to the radical left including BLM and are now owned by them.

Huh.  Dog showing his true colors.  Guess he's getting desperate for Trump.  His posts are becoming an almost parroting of talking points.  Radical Left! BLM lies!  Oh.... And the Boston Tea Party was only about the Tea.  Right doggo?

 

[Grrr...]

Ffs Dog, you really got the bellyfeel going on. 

Yeah.  He's sick of trying to pretend to be reasonable and finally gone full retard.

 

[frenchie]

...two can play that game, Jeff...

 

[Burning Man]

meh. A little steam getting blown off. Better than a buncha dead folks in the streets.

True.  Because nothing says "Happy Father's Day" like these headlines.


104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/20/21297470/chicago-fathers-day-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-june-19-22-104-shot

 

[Burning Man]

I thought you guys had already sorted out Rwanda?

Speaking of Rwanda, I was having a discussion with SWMBO the other day about my focus on removing the labels and the hyphens in our society and trying to get everyone to just feel and believe they are American without having to differentiate and segregate themselves into African-'Murican, Asian-'Murican, Mexican-'Murican, etc.  She had just been to Rwanda back in early Feb for a Gorilla trek and while in Kigali, she spent at day at the Genocide museum.  She said it was an extremely powerful experience but the story of the reconciliation was also just as powerful and they emphasize that there as much as they do the atrocities that occured.  

One of her big takeaways on how they achieved decent progress in their reconciliation in such a short time was the drive to attempt to remove all references of tribe from society as a discriminator.  Obviously, tribal animus is what kicked off the genocide in the first place with the majority Hutus kicking the shit out of the Tutsis.  She was told by several there that tribal affiliations are being deemphasized and instead they attempt to get people to think of themselves as Rwandans first and "tribe" or other classifications pushed further down the pecking order of identity.  Obviously, they still have a long way to go - but given that it was only a few years ago that nearly a million people were slaughtered at the hands of their neighbors - they are making amazing progress.  In the US, it's only been what 150 years since slavery ended and 40 years since the Civil Rights Movement and people cannot let go of it.  There is an entire industry in the US devoted to promoting identity politics and the politics of victimhood.  And it will not end until we stop thinking of everyone not in your "tribe" as the enemy.  Yet that is exactly what is being promoted and stuffed down our throats.  If a next door neighbor in Rwanda can "get over" their father being hacked to death and their mother raped back in the mid 90s - I'm betting we can figure out a way to get past something that happened 150 years ago to our Great, Great Great Great Grandparents.