Brand new multi 23 - but the beams are cut

Multihauler

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Yep, it's true.......

foldingmulti23.jpg


Last time I saw the boat, it appeared to have been sitting for awhile.

Cheers!!!

-MH

 

eric e

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i can only think

it was a failed folding project.....

whatever

building new beams would solve the 23's

excessive dihedral angle

even nicely shaped ply box beams would do

ah bugger it

someone do a full seacart 'farrier top, water-stay bottom' job on it

 

Raz'r

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i can only think

it was a failed folding project.....

whatever

building new beams would solve the 23's

excessive dihedral angle

even nicely shaped ply box beams would do

ah bugger it

someone do a full seacart 'farrier top, water-stay bottom' job on it
either way, I'd want an engineer to figure it out. The cut looks to be in an odd spot for strength, although perfect for trailering...
 

floater

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i can only think

it was a failed folding project.....

whatever

building new beams would solve the 23's

excessive dihedral angle

even nicely shaped ply box beams would do

ah bugger it

someone do a full seacart 'farrier top, water-stay bottom' job on it
either way, I'd want an engineer to figure it out. The cut looks to be in an odd spot for strength, although perfect for trailering...
both foldable and demountable beams - are full beams. At least all those I have seen.
The folding beam fastens to the deck.

The demountable beam is even longer, as it typically penetrates the hull into a female fitting.

So what was the vision of the man wielding the chain saw here? A sleeve can be built for a mast, so perhaps a plug and sleeve fitting was the notion...

 

sail(plane)

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i can only think

it was a failed folding project.....

whatever

building new beams would solve the 23's

excessive dihedral angle

even nicely shaped ply box beams would do

ah bugger it

someone do a full seacart 'farrier top, water-stay bottom' job on it
from the ad: " It includes design and plans for sliding floats."

seems like a failed sliding project? a sliding Multi23 doesn´t sound too attractive

you have to be really confident or crazy or both to cut THAT in a brand new multi...

 

eric e

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sliding makes a lot of sense in that it would keep the float to beam connection intact

and possible would have changed this m23

from a 2-man assemble to a solo assemble

a worthy goal

 

sail(plane)

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sliding makes a lot of sense in that it would keep the float to beam connection intact

and possible would have changed this m23

from a 2-man assemble to a solo assemble

a worthy goal
I have the pre conceived idea that any sliding system will have some play and movement over the long run. Folding seems a more positive locking system in the sense of keeping rigidity and dimensions. For a boat like this, am I wrong? Are there proven sliding systems for this application?

 

eric e

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^

i'd say you're right

that the current folding systems

are better than the current sliding systems

and the carved up beams

tend to support it was a brave experiment, for solo- setup?

that was ahead of its time design wise

i'm no expert but i would be surprised if there was sufficient hull and space

for a full farrier folding system that could be done solo

 
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mad

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sliding makes a lot of sense in that it would keep the float to beam connection intact

and possible would have changed this m23

from a 2-man assemble to a solo assemble

a worthy goal
Only makes sense if the beams have been engineered and built with this in mind.
Otherwise, it just an idiot yet again cutting into highly loaded composites hoping/wishing it'll be alright.

FFS, people need to stop cutting shit apart when they have no idea about the loads and the materials they're built with.

 
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sail(plane)

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^

i'd say you're right

that the current folding systems

are better than the current sliding systems

and the carved up beams

tend to support it was a brave experiment, for solo- setup?

that was ahead of its time design wise

i'm no expert but i would be surprised if there was sufficient hull and space

for a full farrier folding system that could be done solo
would be interesting if the brave owner gave some info on its thoughts when doing it. He does say there is a design and drawings. It might even help him sell it!

 

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