Brazil scuttled aircraft carrier, 9 tons of asbestos and whatnot

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Greenland, hell, there's a nuke that dropped into the swamp about an hour's drive from my house.

Nuclear Mishap: The night two atomic bombs dropped on North Carolina

On this very day 62 years ago, history in North Carolina was almost irreparably changed when two nuclear bombs fell from a crashing military airplane, landing in a field near Goldsboro.

www.wral.com

For years, I'd read that one is still down there, as safe there as anyplace else but apparently the uranium "bullet & block" have been found and taken away.

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'seems perfectly legit'

 

[tybee]

we still have a thermonuclear device somewhere around here. no one knows where....but there is this spot in the sound where the blue crabs are 4 feet across....

the tybee bomb - Google Search

 

[Mark_K]

Got a hunch everybody knows there's a few million worth of scrap steel in the thing, but those old navy ships sometimes coated everything with asbestos. Wouldn't be shocked to find out a great many walls and overheads were coated with a "popcorn" spray applied coating. Might not be a case of just boilers and pipes, might be a massive project to cut that baby apart in any responsible way.

 

[Bagheera]

Greenland, hell, there's a nuke that dropped into the swamp about an hour's drive from my house.

That is not in a foreign country. The pictures I showed is an abandoned air force base in Greenland, abandoned after the cold war. There are many sites like these; early warning systems, abandoned radio stations, abandoned decca stations, abandoned early warning systems, airforce bases, army bases etc. All on foreign soil. That is not how you behave as a guest in a foreign country.
Imagine some country coming to the USA because they are at war with some other country and demand that they build bases everywhere, drop some radioactive shit left and right and abandon anything when they are done. How would the USA respond to any of these things?

 

[Virgulino Ferreira]

The US army, navy and air force are nothing better than this. Where is the outrage over that?
All over the Arctic do you find US bases that have been abandoned either at the end of the second world war or the end of the cold war. Barrels with oil and chemicals are rusting through and leaking into the soil, asbestos everywhere, rusting away equipment, undetonated explosives. Heck there is even a nuclear warhead missing somewhere in North Western Greenland.

Stunning and deeply meaningful photos. Yours?

From what I understand, the Soviet military was by far the worst polluter of the Arctic. Many sites like in these photos, plus several thousand nuclear objects dumped into the sea - in the same region of the Tsar Bomba detonation.

Russia has in recent years begun a massive cleanup effort. They expect to spend tens of billions of dollars in the next few years. But from what I remember, they expect to clean up not even 10% of the garbage. Such is the amount of trash.

Tackling dumped nuclear waste gets priority in Russia’s Arctic Council leadership

The reactors from the submarines K-11, K-19, and K-140, plus the entire submarine K-27 and spent uranium fuel from one of the old reactors of the Lenin-icebreaker have to be lifted from the seafloor and secured.

thebarentsobserver.com

Russia explores old nuclear waste dumps in Arctic

Russia's drive for Arctic oil and gas is complicated by the presence of old nuclear waste dumps in the Kara Sea.

www.bbc.com

Russia’s Nuclear Submarine Graveyard Has a Terrifying History

The equivalent of six-and-a-half Hiroshimas lies just beneath the ocean's surface.

www.popularmechanics.com

https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tech/333504-polar-arctic-clean-ups-pollution

https://www.rgo.ru/en/projects/completed-projects/arctic-cleanup-program

 

[Monkey]

boo fucking hoo. I can’t help but reference a certain situation in Ukraine. Could Greenland defend itself if the U.S. wasn’t involved? Sure, we weren’t all that environmentally friendly back in the day. We’re learning.

 

[Bagheera]

boo fucking hoo. I can’t help but reference a certain situation in Ukraine. Could Greenland defend itself if the U.S. wasn’t involved? Sure, we weren’t all that environmentally friendly back in the day. We’re learning.

Greenland has no need to defend themselves, except for polar bears maybe. They also had nothing to do with the cold war.

 

[veni vidi vici]

I’m actually asking this question out of honest ignorance. I always thought that the biggest harm from asbestos was inhaling it in aerosol form. Is it actually dangerous, diluted in an ocean?

Thank you!

 

[Lark]

boo fucking hoo. I can’t help but reference a certain situation in Ukraine. Could Greenland defend itself if the U.S. wasn’t involved? Sure, we weren’t all that environmentally friendly back in the day. We’re learning.

based on the attempts to leave the Paris agreement and our current inaction, I challenge your statement. We’re repeating.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Got a hunch everybody knows there's a few million worth of scrap steel in the thing, but those old navy ships sometimes coated everything with asbestos. Wouldn't be shocked to find out a great many walls and overheads were coated with a "popcorn" spray applied coating. Might not be a case of just boilers and pipes, might be a massive project to cut that baby apart in any responsible way.

I'd bet most of the wire insulation is asbestos based.
I'd also bet that the copper is going to be thoroughly harvested.

 

[Steam Flyer]

That is not in a foreign country. The pictures I showed is an abandoned air force base in Greenland, abandoned after the cold war. There are many sites like these; early warning systems, abandoned radio stations, abandoned decca stations, abandoned early warning systems, airforce bases, army bases etc. All on foreign soil. That is not how you behave as a guest in a foreign country.
Imagine some country coming to the USA because they are at war with some other country and demand that they build bases everywhere, drop some radioactive shit left and right and abandon anything when they are done. How would the USA respond to any of these things?

My point was, looking at what the USA has done right here, what you expect in other places we care even less about?

Agreed we should behave much better... sometimes we do, not reliable enough though.

 

[Gouvernail]

I’m actually asking this question out of honest ignorance. I always thought that the biggest harm from asbestos was inhaling it in aerosol form. Is it actually dangerous, diluted in an ocean?

No
Fuel and engine oils… yes
Generally … the sunken ship will pretty much hsrm
Nothing except that which it land on and kills