Brexit WTF, WTF

[Albatros]

brexshit... you gotta love it !
a hatch on my yacht is leaking, rubber seal is gone, according to manufacturer (Lewmar) it's a non-standard size (although I can show them there's dozens of same hatches overhere, was standard on Etap yachts) so they can not supply.
a bit of a search and some help of my british friends got me to a company close to Ipswich specialised in refurbishing hatches like mine, so all good, they are eager and helpful but then they gave me a link to a webpage where they have their "20 points program to get anything in and out of the UK for repair " .... it's bloody horrendous, a real showstopper, maybe for companies it's feasible but for a one off repair for an individual it's completely ridiculous so looking for other options, anybody a good idea ?

also funni, in a couple weeks time will go for a little sailing bout on little britain's east coast (Burnham, Maldon, Tollesbury and the likes) and I was informed that apart from a valid passport I must be able to show that I have an adress to stay, and no, a sailing yacht is not a valid adress, so a sailor's thanks and fuck you to Brexshit

 

[dogwatch]

also funni, in a couple weeks time will go for a little sailing bout on little britain's east coast (Burnham, Maldon, Tollesbury and the likes) and I was informed that apart from a valid passport I must be able to show that I have an adress to stay, and no, a sailing yacht is not a valid adress, so a sailor's thanks and fuck you to Brexshit

Informed by who? Process is here. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/sailing-a-leisure-craft-to-and-from-the-uk and there's nothing about having to supply an address. Tons of EU citizens tour the UK by motorhome, caravan etc, they don't have a fixed address.

 

[LeoV]

A question for LeoV, do you think that the UK who wasn't part of the Schengen Agreement, would have still had to apply for an ETIAS permit even if we had not left the EU ?

You got it, but yes that could be possible. Will be interesting to watch how Ireland will handle it.

 

[dogwatch]

brexshit... you gotta love it !
a hatch on my yacht is leaking, rubber seal is gone, according to manufacturer (Lewmar) it's a non-standard size (although I can show them there's dozens of same hatches overhere, was standard on Etap yachts) so they can not supply.
a bit of a search and some help of my british friends got me to a company close to Ipswich specialised in refurbishing hatches like mine, so all good, they are eager and helpful but then they gave me a link to a webpage where they have their "20 points program to get anything in and out of the UK for repair " .... it's bloody horrendous, a real showstopper, maybe for companies it's feasible but for a one off repair for an individual it's completely ridiculous so looking for other options, anybody a good idea ?

http://www.fedex.com/gb/onlinetoolkit/shipment.html ?

 

[Albatros]

Informed by who? Process is here. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/sailing-a-leisure-craft-to-and-from-the-uk and there's nothing about having to supply an address. Tons of EU citizens tour the UK by motorhome, caravan etc, they don't have a fixed address.

the man I'm sailing with, a compatriot of yours, after previous questions of your very own HMS Customs & Excise to another visitor.

reminds me of the days (80's) when I was in merchant shipping handling customs etc... amd worst of all were the Teeside guys. so no reason to be snottynosed about it, the old days are back and your snotnosed bullies are back on the game, have at it, you voted for that.

 

[dogwatch]

you voted for that.

Not me. I was and still am pro-remain.

I don't think the advise you have received can be correct. Try https://www.gov.uk/browse/visas-immigration/eu-eea-swiss

 

[Waynemarlow]

) and I was informed that apart from a valid passport I must be able to show that I have an adress to stay, and no, a sailing yacht is not a valid adress,

You do realise that’s it’s not immigration asking for a contactable forward address, it’s more likely the department of health for your benefit if you have been exposed to a poison or cantageous disease whilst travelling. Take it, it’s a benefit to you and similar to virtually every other country outside the EU.

As you already exhibit a poisonous hatred of Brexit and showing signs of mental stress with your record of still mouthing anti Brexit sympathies at even the slightest of customs problems ( we are after all outside the EU ) then my guess is the Immigration Office wanting a fixed address is doing your friends a favour. Perhaps one of your friends who is giving you the advice is simply saying in a polite way, Ferk Off we can’t be bothered with you whinging and moaning at every thing that life throws your way whilst you are here.

PS you could simply give your friends address, that works well. State that the hatch part is worth less than £135.00 and post it to the U.K. Two days later your repairer will have your hatch. They can do your refurbishment, charge you an invoice including VAT which in my view is fair, the work is being done in the U.K. and then post it back stating it’s second hand and worth less than £ 135.00 which in all truth is probably the case. No customs forms needed.

 

[Black Sox]

 

[The Main Man]

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Ohhhhh. Some beans.

 

[LeoV]

So EU FOM ended, now 90 to 80% less immigration, down to 43000 a year. Ongoing downward trend for years now.
And this number is the inward travel only, no figure of EU citizens leaving available.
All the problems they caused must have been solved by now ? Really ?

Number of EU citizens moving to UK plunges post-Brexit – report

Data shows just 43,000 EU citizens received visas for work, family, study or other purposes in 2021

www.theguardian.com

 

[Whinging Pom]

Very few Brit boats in Cherbourg. Put off by having to deal with the beurocracy?

 

[dogwatch]

If Cowes Week and Round the Island numbers are an indication, British yachties are just sailing less. Dinghy regatta numbers seem to be holding up though.

 

[Flaming]

If Cowes Week and Round the Island numbers are an indication, British yachties are just sailing less. Dinghy regatta numbers seem to be holding up though.

Racers maybe... But have you tried to get a berth in Yarmouth at a weekend this season.....?

 

[Waynemarlow]

So EU FOM ended, now 90 to 80% less immigration, down to 43000 a year. Ongoing downward trend for years now.
And this number is the inward travel only, no figure of EU citizens leaving available.
All the problems they caused must have been solved by now ? Really ?

Number of EU citizens moving to UK plunges post-Brexit – report

Data shows just 43,000 EU citizens received visas for work, family, study or other purposes in 2021

www.theguardian.com

Just replaced with workers that we actually need, from other countries apparently.

From the same report.
Home Office statistics show there has been a sharp increase in migration amid the easing of pandemic restrictions. The data shows 277,069 work-related visas were granted in the year ending March 2022 (including dependants), a 129% increase on the year ending March 2021 and a 50% increase on the year ending March 2020.

Number of EU citizens moving to UK plunges post-Brexit – report

Data shows just 43,000 EU citizens received visas for work, family, study or other purposes in 2021

www.theguardian.com

 

[Waynemarlow]

If Cowes Week and Round the Island numbers are an indication, British yachties are just sailing less.

Sitting on the side of the Solent all weekend getting a suntan and not so many yachts in the Solent as I expected. Summer hols and the planes are working over time going to less sunnier shores, what a waste of money and load of hassle for those happy bunnies when you could bask in 34 degrees at home.

 

[Grande Mastere Dreade]

UK had 24 clean beaches before joining the EU.
UK had 600+ clean beaches after joining the EU.
UK has about 70 clean beaches left after leaving the EU.

https://news.sky.com/story/huge-inc...to-uk-waterways-and-sea-data-reveals-12677730

 

[Panoramix]

That’s so funny LeoV, you really cannot equate anything unless it has a strict monetary value. Even though you are a second user it’s irrelevant to the panels reduction in the worlds global warming scheme of things. But good luck to you making a few quick bucks as you are not unique in not understanding that the west is simply moving its carbon emissions onto the developing world, which in their inefficient industries are just in effect multiplying our emissions.

Even funnier is your repeated highlighting of your highly insulated house, have you considered just how much energy was used to produce and fit that insulation which almost certainly contains foam made from refined petroleum products backed by Aluminium which takes serious amounts of electricity to produce, bet you have never considered that plus you almost certainly now have to cool that house using energy in the summer.

Oh well I guess global warming is going to be totally kicked into touch in Europe over the next few years. Just reading in the press the PIGS totally rebelled against Germany’s request for some of their EU allocation of the 15% reduction of gas usage and the EU has rewritten the rules. apparently the Netherlands coal burning electricity producers have been given the nod and wink to begin ramping up production In lieu.

That is just silly, you just need to learn to do sums and try to find somewhere some common sense...

For a start it takes a lot of energy to heat a badly insulated building for decades much more than to produce an energy intensive insulant which is a one off event.

Secondly you don't even need to spend lot of energy to manufacture insulant, amongst others, straw works very well and is a carbon sink...

Thirdly only the UK insists on using "celotex" (a highly flammable and energy intensive type of insulant backed by aluminium), most of us on the continent use "rock wool", recycled cotton or wood fiber based insulation.

Finally a well insulated house is easier to cool down as long as you've shutters which many buildings in continental Europe feature...

 

[Waynemarlow]

That is just silly, you just need to learn to do sums and try to find somewhere some common sense...

For a start it takes a lot of energy to heat a badly insulated building for decades much more than to produce an energy intensive insulant which is a one off event.

Secondly you don't even need to spend lot of energy to manufacture insulant, amongst others, straw works very well and is a carbon sink...

Thirdly only the UK insists on using "celotex" (a highly flammable and energy intensive type of insulant backed by aluminium), most of us on the continent use "rock wool", recycled cotton or wood fiber based insulation.

Finally a well insulated house is easier to cool down as long as you've shutters which many buildings in continental Europe feature...

For ferk sake, now that LeoV is fully internet briefed and chief internet captain on all Ukrainian SA issues and has moved his armchair addictions to that thread, why can’t we let this thread die or move it to PA where it deservedly should reside ? And then up pops Panoramix to talk about green issues. Doh

 

[Panoramix]

For ferk sake, now that LeoV is fully internet briefed and chief internet captain on all Ukrainian SA issues and has moved his armchair addictions to that thread, why can’t we let this thread die or move it to PA where it deservedly should reside ? And then up pops Panoramix to talk about green issues. Doh

Do I need to apologise for exposing your ignorance ?

 

[dogwatch]

why can’t we let this thread die

I hereby grant you permission to stop reading and posting on it. No need to thank me.