Jambalaya
Super Anarchist
You seem to have rapidly descended into insults and mudslinging. Plus ça change
Brexit WTF, WTF
- Thread starter Fiji Bitter
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You seem to have rapidly descended into insults and mudslinging. Plus ça change
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
No Jack, Aka An Idiot started another thread here in SA.
More seriously though, I bet the new owners would gladly put it in PA where it would shrivel up and die as it should. Mind you LeoV spends most of his days there, so maybe not.
LeoV
Super Anarchist
Ponzi in the UK, 500bn probably missing in pension funds assets.
www.theguardian.com
“If you look at just the asset side, based upon the calculations that myself and Con [Keating] have done, we estimate that roughly £500bn is probably missing somewhere. And this isn’t a paper loss. This is a real loss because pension funds were selling assets to meet the collateral calls,” Clacher said.
Pensions experts ‘shocked’ at hidden borrowing across UK schemes
Pensions experts ‘shocked’ at hidden borrowing across UK schemes
MPs hear evidence of risky ‘liability driven investing’ which some blame for recent bond market meltdown
www.theguardian.com
“If you look at just the asset side, based upon the calculations that myself and Con [Keating] have done, we estimate that roughly £500bn is probably missing somewhere. And this isn’t a paper loss. This is a real loss because pension funds were selling assets to meet the collateral calls,” Clacher said.
AnIdiot
Sock
You know both of these things to be lies, yet you post them anyway.
Did you bother to check the first post in this thread before replying, or just assume that you can assert the truth to be what you want it to be? This was how the brexit con was perpetrated, of course, perhaps it's no wonder.
Is this how you conduct yourself in the real world too? Casual lies, brushed off as a joke, perhaps, if you are called out on them?
Given the benefit of the doubt, you defraud it, insulting those who grant it to you.
Sailabout
Super Anarchist
So pension do have funds in the Uk whereas the EU has todays tax incomePonzi in the UK, 500bn probably missing in pension funds assets.
Pensions experts ‘shocked’ at hidden borrowing across UK schemes
Pensions experts ‘shocked’ at hidden borrowing across UK schemes
MPs hear evidence of risky ‘liability driven investing’ which some blame for recent bond market meltdown
“If you look at just the asset side, based upon the calculations that myself and Con [Keating] have done, we estimate that roughly £500bn is probably missing somewhere. And this isn’t a paper loss. This is a real loss because pension funds were selling assets to meet the collateral calls,” Clacher said.
Does anyone in Europe have any money saved for pensions?
They are all Pay As You Go, that worked in the 60's....
Then for prosperity, the UK should break up? You should be consulting for the Conservative party, they say they're desperate to create growth.
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
Not AFAIK. If yourself and others are keen to have a Brexit thread on PA, go ahead and start one. I won't be following you to that particular cesspool which is, in any case, overwhelmingly about US politics in particular.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
Yup Fiji Bitter started this particular thread. As Fiji Bitter/ Jack Sparrow and AnIdiot are all one and the same, I think I may well be the one who actually is correct. The little " tic " when the anger management fails, gives the game away in the writing style.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
We left the EU, I guess thats a start.
Jambalaya
Super Anarchist
Ponzi in the UK, 500bn probably missing in pension funds assets.
Pensions experts ‘shocked’ at hidden borrowing across UK schemes
Pensions experts ‘shocked’ at hidden borrowing across UK schemes
MPs hear evidence of risky ‘liability driven investing’ which some blame for recent bond market meltdown
“If you look at just the asset side, based upon the calculations that myself and Con [Keating] have done, we estimate that roughly £500bn is probably missing somewhere. And this isn’t a paper loss. This is a real loss because pension funds were selling assets to meet the collateral calls,” Clacher said.
Simply bollocks
As an aside what really should concern people is the unaffordability of the state schemes in places like France. Macron knows this and has tried to reform it but he has been blocked again and again. The French state simply cannot afford these very generous schemes
Jambalaya
Super Anarchist
This argument has been floated more than once here for fun. London should be an independent country. Slash taxes and get all the business from Luxembourg and Ireland.
You should also google the campaign for an Independent nation of Yorkshire. Top quality giggles
Whinging Pom
Super Anarchist
'Is that it?' The supposed benefits of Brexit.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...enefits-of-brexit_uk_637f4bfde4b0b7f653040f8a
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...enefits-of-brexit_uk_637f4bfde4b0b7f653040f8a
AnIdiot
Sock
Don't be stupid.
Terry Hollis
Super Anarchist
If you delete the vote for the last 16 years perhaps it would be a good idea to apply it to the people who stand for election of president or prime minister as well, it would get rid of Biden and Trump.
cms
Super Anarchist
Well ... private pension funds, not anything to do with state pension, do of course have funds made up from contributions from pension clients, invested, sensibly or not, in the markets. State pension in UK is funded the same as most countries, from current tax revenue.
The French pension system, like other aspects of tax and benefits, is much debated here. In general the current tax payers accept a higher burden of tax to maintain the benefits, albeit with constant grumbling.
LeoV
Super Anarchist
Including sustainability.
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
Yes please, if Hampshire can join. London was, of course, pro Remain.
Laser1
Super Anarchist
That didn't age well - Ben Wallace has said the British army needs to be properly funded as it is only big enough to “stay at home and do a bit of tootling around”.
NaptimeAgain
Super Anarchist
I bowed out of this thread seems like a few years ago. Looks like I haven't missed much. 
UK seems economically diminished by Brexit. Various parties blaming other parties. See you all again in 2024.
UK seems economically diminished by Brexit. Various parties blaming other parties. See you all again in 2024.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
It is now after having given the Ukraine all of our old goodies. Mind you the armies procurements of late has been pretty abysmal, the new Ajax tank projects are on the usual path of costing 3 Billion, all they do is deafen the drivers and be totally useless in todays battle grounds where the likes of HIMARS can outgun them from the air.
Even a few of the older Sea Kings heading that way, not sure what they will be used for ?
