Brexit WTF, WTF
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Sea warrior
Super Anarchist
The idiot couldn’t be Jack because I’m Jack .
I thought everyone knew that ….
oh, and the Walrus is Paul…
lol
Jambalaya
Super Anarchist
LeoV you are obsessed and in a very negative way. Without a shadow of doubt the EU and France in particular are going to get their arses handed to them by UK growth and innovation. UK has more Tech Unicorns (companies valued at $1bn or more) than France and Germany combined. Leaders in tech innovation are US, UK and Isreal. In FinTech (Financial Tech innovation) after the UK Europe's next most important hub is Switzerland.
As a result of EU's 90 per 180 day visitor rules we are now looking at 4-5 weeks skiing in Switzerland as I won't have the days to do that in France as we'd typically have done. That's a chunk of change lost to EU.
Finally those around Boris have certainly made a dogs breakfast of last few weeks. Far too much Carrie (woke dope / his wife) and who it now seems held a party in the flat when he was away to celebrate Dominic Cummins departure. If Boris goes he'll be replaced by someone much more focused on Brexit and closing off outstanding issues like NIP and triggering A16. Boris has been far too distracted by COP26 virtue signalling and Net Zero.
As a result of EU's 90 per 180 day visitor rules we are now looking at 4-5 weeks skiing in Switzerland as I won't have the days to do that in France as we'd typically have done. That's a chunk of change lost to EU.
Finally those around Boris have certainly made a dogs breakfast of last few weeks. Far too much Carrie (woke dope / his wife) and who it now seems held a party in the flat when he was away to celebrate Dominic Cummins departure. If Boris goes he'll be replaced by someone much more focused on Brexit and closing off outstanding issues like NIP and triggering A16. Boris has been far too distracted by COP26 virtue signalling and Net Zero.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
Shows just how good a crop of politicians we have on both sides of the house that virtue signaling and Net Zero is the whole reason for going into work.
The only saving grace for the Conservatives is that Captain Hindsight has stacked his cabinet with Remainers and he himself is a known ardent Remainer plus he can't get rid of Angela Raynor. With that Labour is unelectable no matter how much the country wants a change of scenery after 11 years.
LeoV
Super Anarchist
Starting trade wars simultaneously with the EU and US would be pretty badass. Also suicidally insane.
Jambalaya
Super Anarchist
Leo the US just signed a major new security alliance with the UK (&Australia) and just lofted a decades long ban on British Lamb. They haven’t lifted the steel tariffs as the only UK steel company is now owned by the Chinese.
The US isn’t going to do anything but make noises about “respecting the GFA” in event of A16 and the UK will quite rightly respond that A16 protects peace on the island of Ireland. The US has been very clear to reference only the GFA and never the NIP/TCA. The UK isn’t going to trigger a trade war with EU with A16 trigger …. as soon as EU realises that any trade war will end with the whole TCA being cancelled they will back down and there will be a fudge. What you will likely see in Macron trying to score election points via things like slow customs checks at Calais and blocking UK fish exports/landings.
The EU has far bigger problems than UK/NIP. It looks highly likely Russia will invade Ukraine not least as US has made clear it will not intervene militarily. Quite how bad EU member states finances will be come the Spring I can only guess, even France cannot afford any more lockdowns
The US isn’t going to do anything but make noises about “respecting the GFA” in event of A16 and the UK will quite rightly respond that A16 protects peace on the island of Ireland. The US has been very clear to reference only the GFA and never the NIP/TCA. The UK isn’t going to trigger a trade war with EU with A16 trigger …. as soon as EU realises that any trade war will end with the whole TCA being cancelled they will back down and there will be a fudge. What you will likely see in Macron trying to score election points via things like slow customs checks at Calais and blocking UK fish exports/landings.
The EU has far bigger problems than UK/NIP. It looks highly likely Russia will invade Ukraine not least as US has made clear it will not intervene militarily. Quite how bad EU member states finances will be come the Spring I can only guess, even France cannot afford any more lockdowns
LeoV
Super Anarchist
US treasury will dump Sterling and stop buying UK gilds. UK will cry and return to table.
LeoV
Super Anarchist
UK trade has shrunk since Brexit while EU thrives - data
BREXIT, according to its backers, was meant to create endless opportunities. So far, however, the UK has failed to make the vote profitable, with the prospect of "global Britain" quickly fading according to recent data.
Arsewipe rag which campaigned for Brexit complains about the effects of Brexit. Struggling to explain position to its brain dead readers….. comments are really brain dead.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1534017/UK-trade-data-post-Brexit-GDP-EU-evg
BREXIT, according to its backers, was meant to create endless opportunities. So far, however, the UK has failed to make the vote profitable, with the prospect of "global Britain" quickly fading according to recent data.
Arsewipe rag which campaigned for Brexit complains about the effects of Brexit. Struggling to explain position to its brain dead readers….. comments are really brain dead.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1534017/UK-trade-data-post-Brexit-GDP-EU-evg
cms
Super Anarchist
Don't worry Leo. Jambo says it is all going great and the future for the UK is far better than for the EU. He knows his shit ....
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
To be fair CuMS he does seem to be a bit more plausible than yourself, he after all lives both in the UK and France, seems to be a lot more worldly when it comes to finance and seems to be looking at the long term picture, rather than yourself and LeoV who constantly regurgitates anything that happened yesterday, that may just have the slightest connection at dissing the UK, without taking any account of things like Covid 19. You guys fail to report things like the UK service sector was reported yesterday as now surpassing pre Covid 19 figures.
The big crunch for both Germany and France will be can you guys swallow the loss of the Nord 2 gas line. Putin is not going to invade the Ukraine, he'll simply hold military excercises over a long term period, with enough leverage that the Ukraine won't join Nato. At that point Biden will call in his agreement he made with Germany last week, to close Nord2. Will Germany and France go through the winter without gas, that's not likely either so I'm looking forward to the German delay fudge that will allow gas to run through but with the threat of closing it. Win Win for Germany and Putin
LeoV
Super Anarchist
That damage isn’t just economic. Those who believed promises of a boost for Britain’s global stature have been rewarded with at best international bemusement and at worst a country deemed untrustworthy and liable to break international law and treaty obligations. Those expecting a revivified national democracy have instead seen an illegal prorogation of parliament and a spectacular and ongoing power grab by the Executive.
https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2021/12/not-my-brexit.html
It is all dandy in the UK.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
Wasn't that the only route left because of a certain Remainer biased parliament not abiding by their own rules of democracy ?
How different things could have been if those muppets had gotten behind the UK and pushed the referendum result through in a short space of time and left the EU as they had been instructed to do by their electorate and which they had agreed to do. Instead their dithering has led to 6 years later the likes of LeoV complaining about power grabs by the Executive and Boris in power. Don't blame the Leave voters for the outcome, that was self inflicted by our political elite.
Laser1
Super Anarchist
Not quite.
Never have there been so many people living on or below the bread line.
Never have there been so many people that need food banks to feed themselves or their children.
Never have there been so many children that have to go to school on an empty stomach.
Never have there been so many people that had to make the choice to throw money in the electricity meter and warm their houses or buy food to feed their children.
Never have there been so many people in debt & trouble with loan sharks (high street lenders already beyond their means) to buy presents for their children and have a semblence of a happy Christmas.
Never have there been so many people that are homeless, are threatened with homelessness, are or will get kicked out of their rented houses by landlords or are in temporary accomodation.
Prices on the up daily, shortages remain, taxes up, fuel prices go through the roof, rents go through the roof, care in general is a complete shambles, the NHS is on its knees.
There is a lot of human suffering here beyond the sunlit uplands that you do not hear too much about.
Not that Jambo gives a shit because he goes skiing in Switzerland for 4 to 5 weeks and from his perspective everything is just fine ..... (and Dandy) in brexshit Britain.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
Ask yourself the question why that has come about. It hasn't happened in just a few years, its taken at least two to three decades to get to the low wages for the masses society we have ended up in.
Interestingly we are seeing wages rise again for the low paid for probably the first time in decades and all because of the basic business model, supply and demand. At the moment we have almost more job vacancies than potential candidates and yet Laser1 would be the first to complain that we no longer are allowing Freedom of Movement from the EU.
He can't have it both ways, complain there are masses on the poverty line and yet condone freedom of movement which will keep wages down, which is it going to be ?
Laser1
Super Anarchist
Cut the bullshit Wayne.
It's been 5 1/2 years since you won your vote.
Am I right or wrong with the above? Simple answer, yes or no will do
It's been 5 1/2 years since you won your vote.
Am I right or wrong with the above? Simple answer, yes or no will do
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
Yes
So you are suggesting everything now occuring in the UK has no longer anything to do with Brexit, Yes or No ?
If Yes, why are you still whinging and knocking on about it like a spoilt child wanting its " comfort blanket " ?
Laser1
Super Anarchist
Yeah, yeah, keep on spouting half truths and lies mate. You may impress yer mates in the pub but this sandpit is a bit bigger..
The MAC found there was some evidence that immigration depressed the wages of lower-skilled workers while inflating those of higher-skilled workers, but added that the impact was generally small.
When it talks about a small impact, it looked at the period from 1993 to 2017, over which time average earnings for the lowest-paid rose by 55%. Using economic modelling, they estimated that - if there hadn't been European migration into the UK - that rise would have been around 5% higher.
LeoV
Super Anarchist
Sea warrior
Super Anarchist
Behind a paywall and I’ve used up my mulligans so no c&p but it looks like the UK has dropped its objections to ECJ role in NIP
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/britain-drops-demand-for-removal-of-ecj-role-from-ni-protocol-1.4752375
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/britain-drops-demand-for-removal-of-ecj-role-from-ni-protocol-1.4752375
