That looks more like the definition of chlamydia.
Britain replaces a PM - the process unfolds with considerable alacrity
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That looks more like the definition of chlamydia.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
"he has tremendous charisma and stage presence"
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
ShortForBob
Super Anarchist
pierre
Member
Tellingly accurate.......
The Main Man
Super Anarchist
No, he’s actually serious I thinkAre you winding the Americans up?
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
Oh come on, Boris is like the bad good looking kid down the road that every mother told their daughters to stay clear of, only to find every daughter fawned over his very presence and he had already had his pick of the mother’s. Certain people just get born with charisma and charm, doesn’t make them good or evil, just interesting to others.
Berlesconi was in power four times, every leader in France has had back stories that would shock most serial porn voyeurs and yet they held power for years. Yet Boris was stitched up by someone else pinching a bottom when pissed. I would lay a bet of a pint of the local ale that every politician in the present government has done worse. Even Mrs May who has to be the most staid ( apart from Merkel ) admits to trespassing and damaging crops, such a naughty lass.
Nah Boris is like nothing we have ever seen before in British politics and will be around for a while yet. Certainly the two potential PM’s and hindsight Keir are going to be so fricken dull that everybody within a couple of years will be proclaiming how good a job he did and how did we let the media and woke brigade dethrone him. Without a doubt the Conservative Party will already be making approaches for him to rebuild the party when they get turfed out at the next election.
Berlesconi was in power four times, every leader in France has had back stories that would shock most serial porn voyeurs and yet they held power for years. Yet Boris was stitched up by someone else pinching a bottom when pissed. I would lay a bet of a pint of the local ale that every politician in the present government has done worse. Even Mrs May who has to be the most staid ( apart from Merkel ) admits to trespassing and damaging crops, such a naughty lass.
Nah Boris is like nothing we have ever seen before in British politics and will be around for a while yet. Certainly the two potential PM’s and hindsight Keir are going to be so fricken dull that everybody within a couple of years will be proclaiming how good a job he did and how did we let the media and woke brigade dethrone him. Without a doubt the Conservative Party will already be making approaches for him to rebuild the party when they get turfed out at the next election.
Bristol-Cruiser
Super Anarchist
It never occurred to me that charisma and narcissistic buffoon were in any way synonyms. Most of the most effective leaders, take Merkel, Deng, and Eisenhower as very different examples, were basically boring and had little charisma.
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
It may be that "charisma" has changed a bit, in a era with massive video and saturated entertainment market.
Eisenhower probably didn't have much entertainment value and would make a poor video game character. But if you look at his results, getting people to work harder etc etc than they otherwise did, I think "charisma" is part of the equation.
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
FTFY
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
Trudeau the Greater and Bill Clinton were both famous for their charisma.
My wife met Clinton outside her office and said his charisma was so powerful that the very busy street and big crowds just faded away when he shook her hand.
It would be a big help in getting elected but would have little to contribute to effectively administering a government.
Olsonist
Disgusting Liberal Elitist
The President doesn't really administer. They nominate people (SecDef, SecStuff, ...) subject to Senate confirmation who actually administer. Consequently, the Presidency itself is a fairly weak office compared with a Prime Minister. So fake it until you make sales is a useful talent. The exception might be if your party controls the House or the Senate at which point you may be able to issue Executive Orders and dare Congress to override or the Supreme Court to overrule.
Clinton in fact was very effective at getting deals done on Capitol Hill. He was just damned charming up there as well. Carter was a wonderful person but not nearly as charming. Not cold but then not where did my panties go? charming. Clinton was a great salesman. I think Hillary is personally charming and a brilliant administrator; but again, the Presidency is less administration than sales. But the decades of Republican bullshit have worn on her. Absolutely tough as nails, fucked Putin with a dirty strap-on. But hey, she used email.
In earlier eras, work could get done because people didn't hate each other. Reagan and Gingrich changed that. it's not only OK to hate, now it's encouraged. You can't sell someone who hates you and less work gets done. The US stands like a colossus dominating the world and still she is on the brink of a civil war.
Bristol-Cruiser
Super Anarchist
My wife also met Clinton at a charity gig at her work in NYC. Her company was donating a bunch of money to his foundation. She came away extremely impressed. She said he had the ability to make you think that he cared about his brief interaction with you, even though he was meeting dozens of folks that afternoon and did dozens (hundreds?) of appearances a year. The only person she was more impressed by at one of these occasions was Meryl Streep.
Waynemarlow
Super Anarchist
ShortForBob
Super Anarchist
I think he means charisma and charm in a Benny Hill sort of way, or Mr Bean sort of way..A lovable idiot sort of way.
A Rik Mayall sort of way perhaps?
(RIP Rik)
ShortForBob
Super Anarchist
Um..are you drawing attention to his right shoelace?
never mind, If some people wanted to throw their knickers at Mrs Thatcher, I suppose you're allowed to act like a lovestruck pony club member over Mr Johnson
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Bill was apparently a savant when it came to remembering people. The anecdotes are peppered throughout his history - him walking into a room and coming over to someone who he met in a handshake line 8 years earlier and will remember their name, immediate relatives, and something about them and their situation at the time. My guess is that Clinton naturally hyper-focuses on faces. That intensity and ability to make 'you matter' is an incredible talent.
I think you're final statement there is spot on.
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
My favourite story of "young" Clinton involved him meeting Pamela Harriman - fascinating woman - look her up if you don't know about her.
She was more or less the last of the true courtesans as that term was understood in history.
Anyway, she was a major back room power in the Democratic party and after she met Clinton she told one of the top back room boys "Give him to me and I'll make him president" (or words to that effect).
She was more or less the last of the true courtesans as that term was understood in history.
Anyway, she was a major back room power in the Democratic party and after she met Clinton she told one of the top back room boys "Give him to me and I'll make him president" (or words to that effect).
Olsonist
Disgusting Liberal Elitist
That's roughly what Ambassador Newt Gingrich's wife Callista said to him but then it didn't work out. Hey, he got to be Ambassador to the Holy See. That counts for something.
spankoka
Super Anarchist
She's not going to be-PM yet...but it seems Kemi Badenoch is headed to the front bench.
