Buying votes with taxpayer money.

Peter Andersen

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Sad little man hates facts. We all
Know they have a liberal bias?
This is why you have no standing and embarass yourself and your comrades
The fellow posted stats from the CBO. Universally accepted non partisan government organization.
You are retweeting shit from Twitter probably written by Don Lemon.
Who is the sad little man?
If this was Game of Thrones, Tyrion would throttle you with his bare hands.
Good Day Sir!
 

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Welfare for the well off.

Key Points from CBO’s Score:
  • $400 billion cost to taxpayers from Biden’s decision to cancel student loan debt for families earning up to $250,000.
  • $20 billion cost to taxpayers from Biden’s decision to extend the student loan repayment moratorium another four months.
    • $105 billion total cost to taxpayers from loan repayment moratorium since Biden took office.
  • $4+ billion per month cost to U.S. taxpayers from loan and interest repayment moratorium.
Today’s score by CBO does not include a cost estimate of the changes the Biden Administration also recently made to student loan income-driven repayment plans, which other analyses have projected could cost American taxpayers over $450 billion.

Taxpayers Footing the Bill for Biden’s Loan and Interest Repayment Moratorium:
  • 87% of adults without student loans will be forced to pay for the 13% of adults who chose to take on loans.
  • 70% of the benefit from canceling student loan debt will go to those in the top half of the income spectrum.
  • 56% of all student loan debt is owed by the 14.3% of individuals with advanced degrees.
CBO Reports $400 Billion Price Tag for Biden’s Welfare for the Wealthy Student Loan Cancelation Scheme - House Budget Committee

None of those bottom three statistics came from the CBO. Without context, they are worthless. And those are what you are using to frame your entire argument of 'welfare for the well off'.

The means testing is pretty simple. Less than $125,000 single, less than $250,000 double income. Any person making under those amounts. Framing it as 'those in the top half of the income spectrum" is specious and dishonest.

Let's look at another example: the last statistic. Yeah, ok, 56% of all loan debt is owned by 14.3% of individuals with advanced degrees. Congratulations. We're not paying off their loans entirely. We're giving them a set amount of forgiveness. The SAME amount we've giving people without advanced degrees and lower amounts of debt. Another remarkably dishonest play on words. It's a stastic with no functional meaning in this context.

Sorry doggy deaux deaux. Your inane copy and paste propaganda is easy to see through.
 

Dog 2.0

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None of those bottom three statistics came from the CBO. Without context, they are worthless. And those are what you are using to frame your entire argument of 'welfare for the well off'.

The means testing is pretty simple. Less than $125,000 single, less than $250,000 double income. Any person making under those amounts. Framing it as 'those in the top half of the income spectrum" is specious and dishonest.

Let's look at another example: the last statistic. Yeah, ok, 56% of all loan debt is owned by 14.3% of individuals with advanced degrees. Congratulations. We're not paying off their loans entirely. We're giving them a set amount of forgiveness. The SAME amount we've giving people without advanced degrees and lower amounts of debt. Another remarkably dishonest play on words. It's a stastic with no functional meaning in this context.

Sorry doggy deaux deaux. Your inane copy and paste propaganda is easy to see through.
If it is good policy to forgive $10,000 of a student loan used to get a degree in gender studies, would it not also be good policy to forgive $10,000 of a loan a contractor takes out to buy a backhoe?
 

phillysailor

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If it is good policy to forgive $10,000 of a student loan used to get a degree in gender studies, would it not also be good policy to forgive $10,000 of a loan a contractor takes out to buy a backhoe?
A physical asset starts to depreciate the moment it is driven off the lot. It may allow the owner to complete many jobs over its lifespan, but does require maintenance, storage, transportation, fuel, and documentation costs. It is subject to damage, loss from weather and other natural phenomenon and can be stolen from the owner.

It does not have a transformative impact on the owners life which includes improved health outcomes, greatly increased earning potential, more stable family life patterns and reduced rate of imprisonment.

A college education does confer these benefits, and so should obviously be the choice of social programs seeking to save government costs in the future.

The ways Democrats save you money isn’t obvious unless you try thinking about it.

Thanks for helping us all understand this issue. We appreciate your playing the useful idiot this time.
 

Dog 2.0

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A physical asset starts to depreciate the moment it is driven off the lot. It may allow the owner to complete many jobs over its lifespan, but does require maintenance, storage, transportation, fuel, and documentation costs.

It does not have a transformative impact on the owners potential which can be estimated inlcuding improved health outcomes, greatly increased earning potential, more stable family life patterns and reduced rate of imprisonment.

A college education does confer these benefits, and so should obviously be the choice of social programs seeking to save government costs in the future.

The ways Democrats save you money isn’t obvious unless you try thinking about it.

Thanks for helping us all understand this issue. We appreciate your playing the useful idiot this time.
Tell it to the contractor you want to pay for the Gender Studies student's education.
 

phillysailor

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Tell it to the contractor you want to pay for the Gender Studies student's education.
The contractor I would hire would have the tools necessary to complete the job.

And if they completed their course of study, the Gender Studies grad would likely have the coin to hire them.

That’s how capitalism works. It’s just that smarter citizens create more wealth, fewer problems and more stable families for our country.

Not sure why you’re arguing for a bulldozer in every home, but 🤷‍♂️You do you
 

Dog 2.0

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The contractor I would hire would have the tools necessary to complete the job.

And if they completed their course of study, the Gender Studies grad would likely have the coin to hire them.

That’s how capitalism works. It’s just that smarter citizens create more wealth, fewer problems and more stable families for our country.

Not sure why you’re arguing for a bulldozer in every home, but 🤷‍♂️You do you
No, if it were capitalism the people who took out the loan and benefitted from the loan would be responsible for paying it off. Asking working Joe's to pay off someone else's loan is definitely not capitalism.
 

Steam Flyer

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No, if it were capitalism the people who took out the loan and benefitted from the loan would be responsible for paying it off. Asking working Joe's to pay off someone else's loan is definitely not capitalism.
No, it's also not peeling future earnings from the next generation, for the profit of the 0.1% either.
 

Swimsailor

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The backhoe also gets heavily favored tax status throughout its life. The only thing deductible about a student loan is it's interest. And when it gets paid off there is zero financial benefit of having the loan. The college degree can't be amortized. The backhoe can be. That sounds really unfair actually.
 

phillysailor

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The backhoe will increase environmental pollution both through maintenance, transportation and typically poor emissions performance of industrial equipment. This negatively effects the health of the owner and those around it.

The college education increases the earning potential of the owner, and therefore will positively effect both national and state revenue in the form of taxes while exerting a positive influence on the health of the owner and their family.

Investment in college education is of great utility, providing social, and financial benefit to the state. It drives R&D and lays the ground for intellectual and technological breakthroughs which can be transformative.

Please explain why nations should not invest in their infrastructure and their people in order to increase the health of citizens and improve the future tax base.
 

Swimsailor

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Tell it to the contractor you want to pay for the Gender Studies student's education.
Yeah, see? This comment right here proves it has nothing to do with government handouts or buying votes. This has to do with what you think is a worthy course of study in one's life. This has to do with you being afraid of people actually giving a damn about how others are treated because of their gender identity. You are so transparent it's sickening.

Is Biden buying votes by sending aid to Florida hurricane victims?
 

Dog 2.0

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Nonsense, the contractor will use the backhoe the build housing and infrastructure that will benefit the public and will last far longer than the working life of the gender studies major.

We should all honor our commitments and not expect others to assume responsibility for them.
 

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Tell it to the contractor you want to pay for the Gender Studies student's education.
Ah. Reducto as absurdum and a strawman. Have you that statistic on how many of the loans Are gender studies? If course you don't. You're just trying to squirm your way out of a bullshit post.
 

MR.CLEAN

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Ah. Reducto as absurdum and a strawman. Have you that statistic on how many of the loans Are gender studies? If course you don't. You're just trying to squirm your way out of a bullshit post.
Quick, quick, use "Gender Studies", "woke" and "CRT" in a sentence. Those things make me so angry I can't think straight - it'll work on them too!
 




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