Cabo 2023
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Hitchhiker
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Pretty sure it was Ker.
As an aside. When it was the original plumb bow design it was a great sailing boat with the exception that it leaked like a sieve through deck fittings.
When it got modified to the WW1 type destroyer bow it leaked like a sieve through deck fittings, shoveled water over the deck in amazing amounts and could go from 20 to 10 with enough force to slam one into the bulkhead.
This new bow must be an improvement, somehow. Although to lose boat for boat to a gen2 (?)TP 52 must leave a little to be desired.
But, what do I know? I’m a powerboater.
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Always was the challenge with the boat: positioned too close to a TP52 but without the benefit of all those years of development: very different aspect ratios in their sails. However the hull shape did prove to provide performance offshore and the two spreader rig configuration saves a little on rating over a 52 three-spreader rig of the same era (under IRC & ORC, not sure how it works for ORR?)
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The Fast Exit Facebook reports they and Vitesse (RP 52, sailed by an all pro crew) had the fastest elapsed times save for Rio-100 and Bad Pak (Botin 56). Beat many good larger boats such as the NM70 Peligroso boat-for-boat. Seems pretty good for what is reported as her maiden voyage since bow update.
FYI, Vitesse is not a gen2 TP, it is a Southern Cross 52 by RP. That is a torqued up TP52 akin to a Pac52.
FYI, Vitesse is not a gen2 TP, it is a Southern Cross 52 by RP. That is a torqued up TP52 akin to a Pac52.
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Considering she was built in 2007 or so, she’s a far cry from being as souped up as a pac 52.
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FYI Peligroso is a Kernan 68
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Yes, Peligroso is a Kernan 68. Like the SC70s, which are really 68-footers, they at times register as 70 (e.g.: Peligroso registered as a 75 for MEXORC).
Vitesse was built in 2009, not 2007, and has been modified to keep her current. The Pac52 share many of the improvements found in the Southern Cross 52s.
The Pac 52's came into being in 2017. The sistership Pac52s, Warrior Won (formerly Bad Pak) and Callisto (formerly Invisible Hand), are overall winners of the Transpac. Yet in 2021, Vitesse finished between these two on corrected time.
It should be clear to anyone paying attention that the 52 hull form improvements have slowed since around 2007. In essence, designers are achieving improvements on a diminishing scale. Also, improving velocity prediction software used by ORR and others are flattening new boat standout performances.
Vitesse and Fast Exit are well sailed and impressive yachts. It will be fun to see these two battle their way to Hawaii.
Vitesse was built in 2009, not 2007, and has been modified to keep her current. The Pac52 share many of the improvements found in the Southern Cross 52s.
The Pac 52's came into being in 2017. The sistership Pac52s, Warrior Won (formerly Bad Pak) and Callisto (formerly Invisible Hand), are overall winners of the Transpac. Yet in 2021, Vitesse finished between these two on corrected time.
It should be clear to anyone paying attention that the 52 hull form improvements have slowed since around 2007. In essence, designers are achieving improvements on a diminishing scale. Also, improving velocity prediction software used by ORR and others are flattening new boat standout performances.
Vitesse and Fast Exit are well sailed and impressive yachts. It will be fun to see these two battle their way to Hawaii.
